Rozeta Cells - Polyphonic Step Recorder (update LIVE)

brambos

@gusgranite said:

@Carnbot said:
Yeah the addition of Cells makes Rozeta a powerful combo

@Brambos Is there a way to rewind all Rozeta timelines to the beginning if you have follow actions going on?
If you reset AUM timeline it doesn't seem to affect the Rozeta's....if they are all mid-sequence seems tricky to restart them all from the first pattern.

I struggle with resetting a sequence as well once you use follow actions.

The dilemma is: some people may expect rewind to just go to the beginning of the current pattern rather than to jump back to a different pattern. Especially when manually changing the patterns while playing, or when editing patterns. I opted for not automatically jumping between the patterns because it would likely lead to the least confusing situations. But I totally understand your points.

gusgranite

@brambos said:

@gusgranite said:

@Carnbot said:
Yeah the addition of Cells makes Rozeta a powerful combo

@Brambos Is there a way to rewind all Rozeta timelines to the beginning if you have follow actions going on?
If you reset AUM timeline it doesn't seem to affect the Rozeta's....if they are all mid-sequence seems tricky to restart them all from the first pattern.

I struggle with resetting a sequence as well once you use follow actions.

The dilemma is: some people may expect rewind to just go to the beginning of the current pattern rather than to jump back to a different pattern. Especially when manually changing the patterns while playing, or when editing patterns. I opted for not automatically jumping between the patterns because it would likely lead to the least confusing situations. But I totally understand your points.

Makes sense. I am unable to reset back to existing pattern though currently (unless I am doing something wrong?).

zhoe

@rezidue said:

@zhoe said:
Sorry for coming late to this party. But can anyone briefly explain what is Rozeta Cells and does it have anything to do with an app which is called Rozeta Sequencer Suite?

Adds a polyphonic step sequencer to Rozeta Sequencer Suite.

Thanks. So it’s a part of the app, inside purchase or?

brambos

@gusgranite said:

@brambos said:

@gusgranite said:

@Carnbot said:
Yeah the addition of Cells makes Rozeta a powerful combo

@Brambos Is there a way to rewind all Rozeta timelines to the beginning if you have follow actions going on?
If you reset AUM timeline it doesn't seem to affect the Rozeta's....if they are all mid-sequence seems tricky to restart them all from the first pattern.

I struggle with resetting a sequence as well once you use follow actions.

The dilemma is: some people may expect rewind to just go to the beginning of the current pattern rather than to jump back to a different pattern. Especially when manually changing the patterns while playing, or when editing patterns. I opted for not automatically jumping between the patterns because it would likely lead to the least confusing situations. But I totally understand your points.

Makes sense. I am unable to reset back to existing pattern though currently (unless I am doing something wrong?).

No, that should absolutely work. If you're in playback mode it will jump after the current pattern is done, if you're not playing back it should jump immediately.

Artefact2001

Does anyone know if AB3 is ever likely to host MIDI AUs?

aaronpc

@Artefact2001 said:
Does anyone know if AB3 is ever likely to host MIDI AUs?

It's high on the list, yes.

rezidue

@zhoe said:

@rezidue said:

@zhoe said:
Sorry for coming late to this party. But can anyone briefly explain what is Rozeta Cells and does it have anything to do with an app which is called Rozeta Sequencer Suite?

Adds a polyphonic step sequencer to Rozeta Sequencer Suite.

Thanks. So it’s a part of the app, inside purchase or?

It’s part of the app and you get everything from the initial purchase. Bran has been kind enough to keep adding to the suite. Once you have it installed you will see how each type of app has its own plugin. There is a variety of sequencers and controllers.

skiphunt

It's great that brambos isn't going the IAP route with this suite. And, I'd say it could easily withstand a bump up in price to the $12.99 level and still be a sweet bargain. At the current price it's a steal considering what you can do with it and all that it includes.

JonLewis

Just bought Rozeta today, finally. Is there a way to drive Caustic with this? Can Rozeta send multichannel MIDI from within AUM that Caustic's modules can hear?

brambos

@JonLewis said:
Just bought Rozeta today, finally. Is there a way to drive Caustic with this? Can Rozeta send multichannel MIDI from within AUM that Caustic's modules can hear?

Yes, you can specify MIDI channels for each individual instance. So if Caustic can receive MIDI from AUM you’re good to go.

brambos

Still working on those reports of CELLS sometimes going out of sync after a few minutes. Tricky to hunt down because I can’t reliably reproduce the issue, but I think I may have found a workaround.

Angie

@JonLewis said:
Just bought Rozeta today, finally. Is there a way to drive Caustic with this? Can Rozeta send multichannel MIDI from within AUM that Caustic's modules can hear?

Wow - yes, this works nicely. Reinstalled Caustic and looking forward to getting a lot of use out of it without having to manually sequence everything!

zhoe

@rezidue said:

@zhoe said:

@rezidue said:

@zhoe said:
Sorry for coming late to this party. But can anyone briefly explain what is Rozeta Cells and does it have anything to do with an app which is called Rozeta Sequencer Suite?

Adds a polyphonic step sequencer to Rozeta Sequencer Suite.

Thanks. So it’s a part of the app, inside purchase or?

It’s part of the app and you get everything from the initial purchase. Bran has been kind enough to keep adding to the suite. Once you have it installed you will see how each type of app has its own plugin. There is a variety of sequencers and controllers.

Brilliant, thanks!!

JonLewis

@Angie - also try Caustic as a multitimbral destination for Gestrument - tremendous fun.

Will

@skiphunt said:
It's great that brambos isn't going the IAP route with this suite. And, I'd say it could easily withstand a bump up in price to the $12.99 level and still be a sweet bargain. At the current price it's a steal considering what you can do with it and all that it includes.

The Honorable Mr. Bos said that it will eventually use IAP to support new sequencers. First few add-ons are freebies though. At least that's how I took it—hope I'm not misrepresenting his words here.

Not that it matters as I'm just another schmuck on the Internet but this is 100% good news for me. Would rather pay a bit on occasion to keep a great app going than have it turn into a losing proposition for King BB.

Angie

@JonLewis said:
@Angie - also try Caustic as a multitimbral destination for Gestrument - tremendous fun.

Reinstalling that one too then! So many of the apps that I've needed to take off my old iPad to free up storage space are getting a new life on my iPhone. I tend to try to get as many years as possible out of any technology, but there's a lot to be said for biting the bullet and getting more storage and faster processing every once in a while. With the music making tools making more complex music making ever easier, I'm getting quite spoiled. So yeah - might as well reload Gestrument too, lol.

Phil999

@skiphunt said:
It's great that brambos isn't going the IAP route with this suite. And, I'd say it could easily withstand a bump up in price to the $12.99 level and still be a sweet bargain. At the current price it's a steal considering what you can do with it and all that it includes.

I agree, this is very comfortable for users who invested in a good suite of note generators, then got a particle note generator for free, and now some kind of logic generator, including chords (Rozeta Cells).

brambos

Alrighty... 1.0.5 is off to Apple for review. This should fix most known fixable issues. Unfortunately, behavior of Cells in BM3 will be slightly 'suboptimal' until BM3 releases its next update with the correct support for AU transport and timeline controls.

I've implemented a workaround though, so at least it should now work in BM3 without crashing or going completely out of sync.

@syrupcore said:
The Honorable Mr. Bos said that it will eventually use IAP to support new sequencers. First few add-ons are freebies though. At least that's how I took it—hope I'm not misrepresenting his words here.

I'm still undecided. Perhaps I'll just bump the price one or two Euros when I add more plugins. That's nice for the early adopters and supporters and simplifies things quite a bit in terms of maintenance and overall value.

gusgranite

@brambos said:

@gusgranite said:

@brambos said:

@gusgranite said:

@Carnbot said:
Yeah the addition of Cells makes Rozeta a powerful combo

@Brambos Is there a way to rewind all Rozeta timelines to the beginning if you have follow actions going on?
If you reset AUM timeline it doesn't seem to affect the Rozeta's....if they are all mid-sequence seems tricky to restart them all from the first pattern.

I struggle with resetting a sequence as well once you use follow actions.

The dilemma is: some people may expect rewind to just go to the beginning of the current pattern rather than to jump back to a different pattern. Especially when manually changing the patterns while playing, or when editing patterns. I opted for not automatically jumping between the patterns because it would likely lead to the least confusing situations. But I totally understand your points.

Makes sense. I am unable to reset back to existing pattern though currently (unless I am doing something wrong?).

No, that should absolutely work. If you're in playback mode it will jump after the current pattern is done, if you're not playing back it should jump immediately.

Right. I get it now. Yes, it is working as advertised! I didn’t have my actions set so they would loop back as I was after.
I think I’m always going to leave pattern #8 blank and use ‘Go to last’ as my end of loop.

panthera

how do you set up rozeta without AUM ? for external hardware

brambos

@panthera said:
how do you set up rozeta without AUM ? for external hardware

You always need a host, also when controlling external hardware. Rozeta plugins send their MIDI to the host, the host then sends it out to the external MIDI interface. If you don't want to use AUM you can use BM3 or Sequencism, although I haven't used eiter for sending MIDI to external hardware.

Samu

@brambos Thanks for the latest 'Rozeta Cells' update, you're really 'killing' it works like a charm now

brambos

Update 1.0.5 is live. That was quick!

I did a pretty radical change of the internal sequencer logic in Cells to hopefully smoke out the weird issue with occasionally losing sync after a few minutes. Fingers crossed I didn’t break anything in the process. Let me know if anything weird comes up.

wim

@wim said:
Thanks @brambos! Outstanding work as always.

Small suggestion for Cells: an overdub record mode would be so useful. That way one could come back through and do things like add bass notes, or flesh out chords, or maybe lay out bass notes first and then add chords on top.

Hi @brambos, any thoughts on an overdub record function? It's just a suggestion, which I'll drop if it doesn't sound practical or useful. Just curious what you think...

Cheers!

brambos

@wim said:

@wim said:
Thanks @brambos! Outstanding work as always.

Small suggestion for Cells: an overdub record mode would be so useful. That way one could come back through and do things like add bass notes, or flesh out chords, or maybe lay out bass notes first and then add chords on top.

Hi @brambos, any thoughts on an overdub record function? It's just a suggestion, which I'll drop if it doesn't sound practical or useful. Just curious what you think...

That’s a useful idea and not too difficult to implement. I’m struggling to keep the number of buttons and controls down in Cells. It has reached its “usability-knee” in terms of complexity now, so I’ll have to think how to integrate that without further burdening the UI.

wim

@brambos said:

@wim said:

@wim said:
Thanks @brambos! Outstanding work as always.

Small suggestion for Cells: an overdub record mode would be so useful. That way one could come back through and do things like add bass notes, or flesh out chords, or maybe lay out bass notes first and then add chords on top.

Hi @brambos, any thoughts on an overdub record function? It's just a suggestion, which I'll drop if it doesn't sound practical or useful. Just curious what you think...

That’s a useful idea and not too difficult to implement. I’m struggling to keep the number of buttons and controls down in Cells. It has reached its “usability-knee” in terms of complexity now, so I’ll have to think how to integrate that without further burdening the UI.

Make it telepathic and we're good to go!

Thanks for thinking about it. It's a "lazy" feature for sure, and I'm one of those who normally says "suck it up and learn to play, wimp". But seemed like a good idea when I was trying to finger chords in AUM's keyboard on my iPhone.

brambos

@wim said:

@brambos said:

@wim said:

@wim said:
Thanks @brambos! Outstanding work as always.

Small suggestion for Cells: an overdub record mode would be so useful. That way one could come back through and do things like add bass notes, or flesh out chords, or maybe lay out bass notes first and then add chords on top.

Hi @brambos, any thoughts on an overdub record function? It's just a suggestion, which I'll drop if it doesn't sound practical or useful. Just curious what you think...

That’s a useful idea and not too difficult to implement. I’m struggling to keep the number of buttons and controls down in Cells. It has reached its “usability-knee” in terms of complexity now, so I’ll have to think how to integrate that without further burdening the UI.

Make it telepathic and we're good to go!

Thanks for thinking about it. It's a "lazy" feature for sure, and I'm one of those who normally says "suck it up and learn to play, wimp". But seemed like a good idea when I was trying to finger chords in AUM's keyboard on my iPhone.

It would certainly also benefit my own non-existent playing skills.

ecamburn

@brambos any possibility of getting triplet and dotted note values in Cells and some of the other modules where appropriate?

[Deleted User]

@wim said:

@brambos said:

@wim said:

@wim said:
Thanks @brambos! Outstanding work as always.

Small suggestion for Cells: an overdub record mode would be so useful. That way one could come back through and do things like add bass notes, or flesh out chords, or maybe lay out bass notes first and then add chords on top.

Hi @brambos, any thoughts on an overdub record function? It's just a suggestion, which I'll drop if it doesn't sound practical or useful. Just curious what you think...

That’s a useful idea and not too difficult to implement. I’m struggling to keep the number of buttons and controls down in Cells. It has reached its “usability-knee” in terms of complexity now, so I’ll have to think how to integrate that without further burdening the UI.

Make it telepathic and we're good to go!

Thanks for thinking about it. It's a "lazy" feature for sure, and I'm one of those who normally says "suck it up and learn to play, wimp". But seemed like a good idea when I was trying to finger chords in AUM's keyboard on my iPhone.

+1 for this.

Will

@brambos said:

@wim said:

@brambos said:

@wim said:

@wim said:
Thanks @brambos! Outstanding work as always.

Small suggestion for Cells: an overdub record mode would be so useful. That way one could come back through and do things like add bass notes, or flesh out chords, or maybe lay out bass notes first and then add chords on top.

Hi @brambos, any thoughts on an overdub record function? It's just a suggestion, which I'll drop if it doesn't sound practical or useful. Just curious what you think...

That’s a useful idea and not too difficult to implement. I’m struggling to keep the number of buttons and controls down in Cells. It has reached its “usability-knee” in terms of complexity now, so I’ll have to think how to integrate that without further burdening the UI.

Make it telepathic and we're good to go!

Thanks for thinking about it. It's a "lazy" feature for sure, and I'm one of those who normally says "suck it up and learn to play, wimp". But seemed like a good idea when I was trying to finger chords in AUM's keyboard on my iPhone.

It would certainly also benefit my own non-existent playing skills.

A chord picker could too. But that's a ton more UI.

Might not help the UX knee (love that analogy btw) but would keep the number of buttons down: the record button could have three states: off, replace, and overdub.

And now for something completely different to (sorta) solve for overdubs... A 4x8 mode where Cells becomes an 8 step sequencer and simultaneously plays all 4 cells in column 1, then column 2, etc. You'd overdub by adding to the next row. Only good for 8-step sequences but possibly delightful for non-overdub reasons too! Perhaps there could even be a tucked-away-in-a-menu 'Collapse to row 1' function? Could then 'overdub' onto row 2 (and 3...) and then collapse.