Top dust attractors

robertreynolds

@u0421793 said:
Ah, I can add one – I’d forgotten I even own it, that’s how unused it is. My Keith McMillen K-board. Bought a couple of years ago about this time of year, but really never got on with it. The hassle of plugging it into the ipad via usb adaptor and the cable dangling across everything, the strange insensitivity on most notes but not on some, and the slight camber or curve across it resulting on it rocking when put on a table. I thought it’d increase my productivity because I didn’t like the ipad keyboard in general, but it seems I’d rather avoid the K-board altogether. Ironically, half the reason I bought the circuit was to use that as an alternative controller to supplant the unused K-board. Funny how things go.

My k-board died about a year after buying it. I refused to believe it so it sat for another year gathering dust until I decided to throw it in the trash. I’ve stuff in my freezer last longer than that thing.

robertreynolds

@Purpan said:
Circuit for me too. It sits in a desk drawer. I just don't like the sound, unfortunately. Maybe I need to get one of those expansion packs...

Expansions are great for presets (there are several free ones at isotonik’s site) but definitely load it up with your own samples. The thing is a chameleon on steroids and super easy to get into from a user perspective.

Purpan

@robertreynolds said:

@Purpan said:
Circuit for me too. It sits in a desk drawer. I just don't like the sound, unfortunately. Maybe I need to get one of those expansion packs...

Expansions are great for presets (there are several free ones at isotonik’s site) but definitely load it up with your own samples. The thing is a chameleon on steroids and super easy to get into from a user perspective.

Oddly, since posting in this thread I've dusted down the Circuit and am quite enjoying it. I haven't really got my head around the sample loading/flipping, though.

rs2000

@AudioGus said:
If they had an official Novation Circuit editor App with sample uploading and user preset sharing, like Paterning, then I would probably use it more.

They actually do. Now doesn't even need the Max runtime anymore

Calverhall

@oat_phipps said:
Korg Minilogue. I keep it dusted in case of potential buyers. I fear it’s much too late for that though; the secret is out.

What secret, I love my Minilogue.

Calverhall

For me its only because I share a studio space which my friend completely dominates, im desperate to move and set my up my own permanent set up without having to clear it all up again to have dinner!

The main loser is my Push2, super machine but it needs a place to stay without having to pack it up every couple of days to use something else. Also my Minilogue suffers fir my lack of dedicated space. But it has a dust cover and the Push2 has a carry case so they are in good nick.

However the biggest loser is my MicroKORG, since I so much prefer my Minilogue and 0-Coast. Its all packed up now but i keep feeling tempted to dive into its vocoder programming.

And aww yes, Kaossilator Pro. I want to get that thing set up again since I recently realised it sends MIDI through its scale and key options. But again, I need a new studio space.

AudioGus

@rs2000 said:

@AudioGus said:
If they had an official Novation Circuit editor App with sample uploading and user preset sharing, like Paterning, then I would probably use it more.

They actually do. Now doesn't even need the Max runtime anymore

I meant iOS. I still can't call desktop programs 'apps'.

pfrf

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

Imaginary mojo. Normal tubes run at 12 volts add almost nothing perceptible to the sound. Manufacturers put them in there as a sales gimmick.

I understand what you’re saying, but on the Electribes the tubes do vastly alter the sound (in a very nice way) and the gain is adjustable. I have two pair of tubes I can swap for different amounts of distortion.

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

@pfrf said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

Imaginary mojo. Normal tubes run at 12 volts add almost nothing perceptible to the sound. Manufacturers put them in there as a sales gimmick.

I understand what you’re saying, but on the Electribes the tubes do vastly alter the sound (in a very nice way) and the gain is adjustable. I have two pair of tubes I can swap for different amounts of distortion.

How do they manage that? Does it run the tubes at normal voltage, or are they using low voltage hearing aid tubes?

bert

Guess I bought too many saxophones. Not using a SML Gold Medal alto nor a B&S alto. Will probably sell both. So I can buy another instrument. Played that new Numa Compact 2, although it has semi-weighted keys it played very well.

oat_phipps

@baldguru said:

@u0421793 said:

@DCJ said:

@oat_phipps said:
Korg Minilogue. I keep it dusted in case of potential buyers. I fear it’s much too late for that though; the secret is out.

I’m shocked to hear this. Always had my eye on it.

Hm. I also.

I couldn't wait to get mine after pre-order @ full price. Such a colossal disappointment. Finally accepted $200 offer from local GuitarCenter for both Minilog AND Roland JD-Xi, sigh...

I hope you mean separate, not $200 for both. I’m sure one could still get at least $300 for a used Minilogue in good shape with box and documents. Via personal resale, not Guitar Center or the like, that is.

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Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

@StudioES said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

@pfrf said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

Imaginary mojo. Normal tubes run at 12 volts add almost nothing perceptible to the sound. Manufacturers put them in there as a sales gimmick.

I understand what you’re saying, but on the Electribes the tubes do vastly alter the sound (in a very nice way) and the gain is adjustable. I have two pair of tubes I can swap for different amounts of distortion.

How do they manage that? Does it run the tubes at normal voltage, or are they using low voltage hearing aid tubes?

It's starved-plate circuit. With a nice LED in the background. I think they're 12AX7s. Those kind of circuits can sound really good, like the old Tube Works/BK Butler pedals. Or a marketing gimmick like the early Behringer preamps.

They can sound good, but is it really the tube doing the work? I don't think so. How can you get tube compression at such low voltages?

JohnnyGoodyear

@baldguru said:

@u0421793 said:

@DCJ said:

@oat_phipps said:
Korg Minilogue. I keep it dusted in case of potential buyers. I fear it’s much too late for that though; the secret is out.

I’m shocked to hear this. Always had my eye on it.

Hm. I also.

I couldn't wait to get mine after pre-order @ full price. Such a colossal disappointment. Finally accepted $200 offer from local GuitarCenter for both Minilog AND Roland JD-Xi, sigh...

So the Roland JD-Xi didn't do it for you? Was/am considering one. Any words of warning?

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rs2000

@AudioGus said:
I meant iOS. I still can't call desktop programs 'apps'.

Have you seen the various Lemur editors for Novation Circuit?
No Sample import but at least a full editor for the Circuit engine.
I bet you own Lemur, don't you?

AudioGus

@rs2000 said:

@AudioGus said:
I meant iOS. I still can't call desktop programs 'apps'.

Have you seen the various Lemur editors for Novation Circuit?
No Sample import but at least a full editor for the Circuit engine.
I bet you own Lemur, don't you?

I do nave the Lemur ones and I do have the app ‘MIDISynth Circuit by Lee Huddleston’.

rs2000

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
They can sound good, but is it really the tube doing the work? I don't think so. How can you get tube compression at such low voltages?

Yes they do, there is a "Tube Gain" knob that lets you adjust how much you drive the tubes.
They are operating at rather low voltage but nonetheless, choosing the the tube model that has "your sound" is essential in an EMX/ESX. Huge differences from harsh techno-like distortion with the original ones to much smoother, "warmer" (i.e. more low-mids) distortion e.g. with Sovtek models.

brambos

@rs2000 said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
They can sound good, but is it really the tube doing the work? I don't think so. How can you get tube compression at such low voltages?

Yes they do, there is a "Tube Gain" knob that lets you adjust how much you drive the tubes.
They are operating at rather low voltage but nonetheless, choosing the the tube model that has "your sound" is essential in an EMX/ESX. Huge differences from harsh techno-like distortion with the original ones to much smoother, "warmer" (i.e. more low-mids) distortion e.g. with Sovtek models.

This. I put a matched pair of Sovteks in and it sounds really hot and creamy. It’s certainly not just a fancy placebo effect.

Will

I love the sight of synth/drum machine nerds talking about swapping tubes. Whoddathunk.

RUST( i )K

@AudioGus said:

@rs2000 said:

@AudioGus said:
I meant iOS. I still can't call desktop programs 'apps'.

Have you seen the various Lemur editors for Novation Circuit?
No Sample import but at least a full editor for the Circuit engine.
I bet you own Lemur, don't you?

I do nave the Lemur ones and I do have the app ‘MIDISynth Circuit by Lee Huddleston’.

Which do you like?

I got the editor from Lee.

Can I tweak the sound live or only after I load it?

Tarekith

@AnimalHeadSpirit said:
In a literal sense, my top dust attractor is my Herman Miller Aeron chair. The base underneath the seat seems to collect a month worth of dust every few days! ..

I feel your pain on this one, that bottom base and the top of the lumbar support do attract tons of dust.

Tarekith

@rs2000 said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
They can sound good, but is it really the tube doing the work? I don't think so. How can you get tube compression at such low voltages?

Yes they do, there is a "Tube Gain" knob that lets you adjust how much you drive the tubes.
They are operating at rather low voltage but nonetheless, choosing the the tube model that has "your sound" is essential in an EMX/ESX. Huge differences from harsh techno-like distortion with the original ones to much smoother, "warmer" (i.e. more low-mids) distortion e.g. with Sovtek models.

Before and after comparisons for those curious:

http://innerportalstudio.com/changing-the-korg-emx-1-tubes/

pfrf

@Tarekith said:

@rs2000 said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
They can sound good, but is it really the tube doing the work? I don't think so. How can you get tube compression at such low voltages?

Yes they do, there is a "Tube Gain" knob that lets you adjust how much you drive the tubes.
They are operating at rather low voltage but nonetheless, choosing the the tube model that has "your sound" is essential in an EMX/ESX. Huge differences from harsh techno-like distortion with the original ones to much smoother, "warmer" (i.e. more low-mids) distortion e.g. with Sovtek models.

Before and after comparisons for those curious:

http://innerportalstudio.com/changing-the-korg-emx-1-tubes/

Thanks for that. I chose those JJ ECC83S tubes for the ESX-1, probably based on your posts at the electribe forum.

The song, Puled, was really great. I totally enjoyed it.

Tarekith

Thanks!

JohnnyGoodyear

@brambos said:

@rs2000 said:

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
They can sound good, but is it really the tube doing the work? I don't think so. How can you get tube compression at such low voltages?

Yes they do, there is a "Tube Gain" knob that lets you adjust how much you drive the tubes.
They are operating at rather low voltage but nonetheless, choosing the the tube model that has "your sound" is essential in an EMX/ESX. Huge differences from harsh techno-like distortion with the original ones to much smoother, "warmer" (i.e. more low-mids) distortion e.g. with Sovtek models.

This. I put a matched pair of Sovteks in and it sounds really hot and creamy. It’s certainly not just a fancy placebo effect.

I don't what kind of porn this is but it reminds me of Hunter Thompson's stories of sucking on the sleeve of the man in the Pendleton shirt.

enc

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

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I couldn't wait to get mine after pre-order @ full price. Such a colossal disappointment. Finally accepted $200 offer from local GuitarCenter for both Minilog AND Roland JD-Xi, sigh...

So the Roland JD-Xi didn't do it for you? Was/am considering one. Any words of warning?

Yeah, me too.. toyed with the idea ever since it was released. Came close to dropping wedge on it at least three occasions. Absense of full ADSR is quite a biggy. Also, 4 bar sequencer is pretty limiting (there's a work around to give up to 16 bars) .. saying that id unlikely be using the internal sequencer. Hated the "gloss black' fascia but now available with matte black/white lettering/overlay

Review you tube pros/cons

JohnnyGoodyear

@enc said:

@JohnnyGoodyear said:

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I couldn't wait to get mine after pre-order @ full price. Such a colossal disappointment. Finally accepted $200 offer from local GuitarCenter for both Minilog AND Roland JD-Xi, sigh...

So the Roland JD-Xi didn't do it for you? Was/am considering one. Any words of warning?

Yeah, me too.. toyed with the idea ever since it was released. Came close to dropping wedge on it at least three occasions. Absense of full ADSR is quite a biggy. Also, 4 bar sequencer is pretty limiting (there's a work around to give up to 16 bars) .. saying that id unlikely be using the internal sequencer. Hated the "gloss black' fascia but now available with matte black/white lettering/overlay

Review you tube pros/cons

Thanks @enc, still on the fence, but leaning....

baldguru

@JohnnyGoodyear said:
So the Roland JD-Xi didn't do it for you? Was/am considering one. Any words of warning?

I actually liked the JD-Xi, I just did not use it, so much easier to play the iPad...

baldguru

@oat_phipps said:
I hope you mean separate, not $200 for both. I’m sure one could still get at least $300 for a used Minilogue in good shape with box and documents. Via personal resale, not Guitar Center or the like, that is.

No, for both synths. I have never had much luck selling private. And hate the idea of having to ship things, so GuitarCenter got a great deal. That being said, I won the JD-Xi at a GC factory demo while waiting for the Minilogue to arrive after ordering. So it was free anyway. I actually ended up liking the JD-Xi much more than the Minilogue but found myself turning to the iPad rather than having to drag the synth out, cable it up and put it away all the time. Limited space available, sigh...