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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Samu said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    Not so. It is a norm. It significantly cleans up code. It may be even more common than sending note off.

    Oh well, I do not have a single hardware instrument/controller that sends note on with velocity 0 when lifting the fingers from the keys/pads...

    It's like counter-intuitive with Note ON but not if velocity is 0, and synths that do that will never respond to release-velocity...

    It may be counter-intuitive to you, but spend a little time looking at MIDI programming forums and you will see that it is a perfectly normal and acceptable way of sending a note off -- and long has been. This is not some new or weird thing.

  • SamuSamu

    @espiegel123 said:

    It may be counter-intuitive to you, but spend a little time looking at MIDI programming forums and you will see that it is a perfectly normal and acceptable way of sending a note off -- and long has been. This is not some new or weird thing.

    Gotcha...
    I'll just forget all this midi sh*t for a while spend some time SunVox & Renoise to calm down... :)

  • wimwim
    edited December 2020

    @Samu said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    It may be counter-intuitive to you, but spend a little time looking at MIDI programming forums and you will see that it is a perfectly normal and acceptable way of sending a note off -- and long has been. This is not some new or weird thing.

    Gotcha...
    I'll just forget all this midi sh*t for a while spend some time SunVox & Renoise to calm down... :)

    Nah. What could be more relaxing than curling up in front of a cozy fire with a big mug of steaming cocoa and reading the official MIDI spec? Spoil yourself for once. You deserve it!

  • SamuSamu

    @wim said:

    Nah. What could be more relaxing than just curling up in front of a cozy fire with a big mug of steaming cocoa and reading the official MIDI spec? Spoil yourself for once. You deserve it!

    Maybe some day when I get really, really bored or something :)

    Cheers!

  • j_liljedahlj_liljedahl

    @Samu said:
    @j_liljedahl It seems that the keyboard in AUM has some kind of 'bug' that can cause hanging notes?!

    Here's a screen dump from Midi Monitor, I tap the AUM keyboard once.

    Here's another screen dump from Midi Monitor using KB-1, again I just tap the keyboard once.

    The AUM behavior can cause hanging notes with some AUv3's and hardware while KB-1 works without issues?!
    Don't know if any changes have been made to the midi keyboard but I recall it has not been like this before...

    What exactly is the bug? If you're referring to doing note-off with a note-on with velocity 0, it's part of the MIDI standard. So if any plugin doesn't treat that as a note-off it means the bug is on their side.

  • j_liljedahlj_liljedahl

    @Samu said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    Not so. It is a norm. It significantly cleans up code. It may be even more common than sending note off.

    Oh well, I do not have a single hardware instrument/controller that sends note on with velocity 0 when lifting the fingers from the keys/pads...

    It's like counter-intuitive with Note ON but not if velocity is 0, and synths that do that will never respond to release-velocity...

    It doesn't matter if you think it makes sense or not, it's still part of the MIDI standard :)
    A keyboard that sends release-velocity would use note-off messages. The point is that any MIDI receiver following the standard must treat note ON with zero velocity as a note OFF.

  • SamuSamu
    edited December 2020

    @j_liljedahl said:

    A keyboard that sends release-velocity would use note-off messages. The point is that any MIDI receiver following the standard must treat note ON with zero velocity as a note OFF.

    Gotcha!
    I will just 'retire' my trusty TX81z that hangs notes when it receives note on with 0 velocity if the note was already playing ;)
    No biggie, guess it's time to move forward anyway...

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited December 2020

    @sigma79 said:
    Basically to not have all effects recorded on recording ( but also to have effects on recording in case good )

    This way the option of re-adding effects, when not having to tweak synths.

    People might seen to transfer to a DAW. Is it that effects are always transfered on audio?

    Made a setup with over 20 channels but never used all channels ( this is without the potential of above. Where every channel has an additional send or receive ) Wouldnt want to find aum can only record max of 16 channels.

    Simple: put the FX on busses. Then you can choose to record the dry channel or the one with the FX. Be sure to mute one or the other depending on whether you want the FX or not. Otherwise you'll get the sound doubling up.

    I think Id just keep synth reverbs on a master and duplicate master. Sometimes a universal reverb. This way I could adjust the reverb and add effects before reverb on audio? Would need to hear reverb and mute the duplicate channel without a reverb but record both.

  • LeftyChrisLeftyChris
    edited December 2020

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Samu said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    Not so. It is a norm. It significantly cleans up code. It may be even more common than sending note off.

    Oh well, I do not have a single hardware instrument/controller that sends note on with velocity 0 when lifting the fingers from the keys/pads...

    It's like counter-intuitive with Note ON but not if velocity is 0, and synths that do that will never respond to release-velocity...

    It doesn't matter if you think it makes sense or not, it's still part of the MIDI standard :)
    A keyboard that sends release-velocity would use note-off messages. The point is that any MIDI receiver following the standard must treat note ON with zero velocity as a note OFF.

    I am curious: Are there any plans to add iCloud support to AudioShare? I like Readdle Documents’ approach to the iCloud, and it may be a good way to implement it in AudioShare too: Having an iCloud folder in the app that allows one to upload files or copies of files to the iCloud. This way documents can be both on the device and in the iCloud, or you can choose one or the other to use (device or iCloud).

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @LeftyChris said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Samu said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    Not so. It is a norm. It significantly cleans up code. It may be even more common than sending note off.

    Oh well, I do not have a single hardware instrument/controller that sends note on with velocity 0 when lifting the fingers from the keys/pads...

    It's like counter-intuitive with Note ON but not if velocity is 0, and synths that do that will never respond to release-velocity...

    It doesn't matter if you think it makes sense or not, it's still part of the MIDI standard :)
    A keyboard that sends release-velocity would use note-off messages. The point is that any MIDI receiver following the standard must treat note ON with zero velocity as a note OFF.

    I am curious: Are there any plans to add iCloud support to AudioShare? I like Readdle Documents’ approach to the iCloud, and it may be a good way to implement it in AudioShare too: Having an iCloud folder in the app that allows one to upload files or copies of files to the iCloud. This way documents can be both on the device and in the iCloud, or you can choose one or the other to use (device or iCloud).

    +1

    (Although iCloud is a bit of a trigger for some round here)

  • LeftyChrisLeftyChris
    edited December 2020

    @gregsmith said:

    @LeftyChris said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    @Samu said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    Not so. It is a norm. It significantly cleans up code. It may be even more common than sending note off.

    Oh well, I do not have a single hardware instrument/controller that sends note on with velocity 0 when lifting the fingers from the keys/pads...

    It's like counter-intuitive with Note ON but not if velocity is 0, and synths that do that will never respond to release-velocity...

    It doesn't matter if you think it makes sense or not, it's still part of the MIDI standard :)
    A keyboard that sends release-velocity would use note-off messages. The point is that any MIDI receiver following the standard must treat note ON with zero velocity as a note OFF.

    I am curious: Are there any plans to add iCloud support to AudioShare? I like Readdle Documents’ approach to the iCloud, and it may be a good way to implement it in AudioShare too: Having an iCloud folder in the app that allows one to upload files or copies of files to the iCloud. This way documents can be both on the device and in the iCloud, or you can choose one or the other to use (device or iCloud).

    +1

    (Although iCloud is a bit of a trigger for some round here)

    Dropbox integration would be nice too, although I use iCloud more. And it seems to me that iCloud integration is more seamless on Apple products than Dropbox is. The way Readdle Documents has that iCloud folder inside the app, as if it’s just another folder - that is really cool and useful. I don’t think that would be quite possible with Dropbox, though I could be wrong.

  • j_liljedahlj_liljedahl

    @Samu said:

    @j_liljedahl said:

    A keyboard that sends release-velocity would use note-off messages. The point is that any MIDI receiver following the standard must treat note ON with zero velocity as a note OFF.

    Gotcha!
    I will just 'retire' my trusty TX81z that hangs notes when it receives note on with 0 velocity if the note was already playing ;)
    No biggie, guess it's time to move forward anyway...

    Are you sure? This is from the TX-81Z manual (http://www.synthfool.com/docs/Yamaha/Yamaha TX-81Z Owners Manual.pdf)

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    Those envelopes can be tricky :)

  • SamuSamu

    @j_liljedahl said:

    Are you sure? This is from the TX-81Z manual (http://www.synthfool.com/docs/Yamaha/Yamaha TX-81Z Owners Manual.pdf)

    I've got an old firmware (V1.0) in mine :(
    The latest one is V1.6 which requires the eprom to be swapped.

    But it's good to know it was the intended behavior and my unit is just 'bugged'...

    Thanks for clearing it up for me :)
    Cheers!

  • jazzroomjazzroom

    Hi , its been probably already asked ,
    but how do you copy AudioShare files
    to your backup drive on Mac ...wired?

    Both iMazing and iTunes show empty shared folder in AudioShare ?

    I am on iOS 12 4.1 on iphone .

    Thanks in advance for any tips

    jazz

  • FloRi89FloRi89

    @jazzroom said:
    Hi , its been probably already asked ,
    but how do you copy AudioShare files
    to your backup drive on Mac ...wired?

    Both iMazing and iTunes show empty shared folder in AudioShare ?

    I am on iOS 12 4.1 on iphone .

    Thanks in advance for any tips

    jazz

    I use iCloud for that purpose. Just put the files into iCloud and they'll get synced to your Mac. From there you can archive it or do whatever you want with it.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @jazzroom said:
    Hi , its been probably already asked ,
    but how do you copy AudioShare files
    to your backup drive on Mac ...wired?

    Both iMazing and iTunes show empty shared folder in AudioShare ?

    I am on iOS 12 4.1 on iphone .

    Thanks in advance for any tips

    jazz

    If using iMazing , you grab Audioshare content by looking in an iMazing backup. The shared folder is only the content in Audioshare iTunes file sharing folder. But the data is in the iMazing backups if you look at them. It requires a little digging.

  • jazzroomjazzroom

    @FloRi89 said:

    @jazzroom said:
    Hi , its been probably already asked ,
    but how do you copy AudioShare files
    to your backup drive on Mac ...wired?

    Both iMazing and iTunes show empty shared folder in AudioShare ?

    I am on iOS 12 4.1 on iphone .

    Thanks in advance for any tips

    jazz

    I use iCloud for that purpose. Just put the files into iCloud and they'll get synced to your Mac. From there you can archive it or do whatever you want with it.

    Thanks , i am aware of the various wireless file "cloud" backup options,
    but prefer to use USB wired for backup straight to a External HD attached to my Mac.
    I like to keep all my samples and recordings in one place on one large offline backup.

    Still looking for an easy solution.

  • jazzroomjazzroom

    @espiegel123 said:

    @jazzroom said:
    Hi , its been probably already asked ,
    but how do you copy AudioShare files
    to your backup drive on Mac ...wired?

    Both iMazing and iTunes show empty shared folder in AudioShare ?

    I am on iOS 12 4.1 on iphone .

    Thanks in advance for any tips

    jazz

    If using iMazing , you grab Audioshare content by looking in an iMazing backup. The shared folder is only the content in Audioshare iTunes file sharing folder. But the data is in the iMazing backups if you look at them. It requires a little digging.

    Thanks for reply,
    Does that mean that I have to make a complete backup with iMazing of my whole iOS device every time to access AudioShare files on my computer ( Mac) ?
    🤔

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @jazzroom said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @jazzroom said:
    Hi , its been probably already asked ,
    but how do you copy AudioShare files
    to your backup drive on Mac ...wired?

    Both iMazing and iTunes show empty shared folder in AudioShare ?

    I am on iOS 12 4.1 on iphone .

    Thanks in advance for any tips

    jazz

    If using iMazing , you grab Audioshare content by looking in an iMazing backup. The shared folder is only the content in Audioshare iTunes file sharing folder. But the data is in the iMazing backups if you look at them. It requires a little digging.

    Thanks for reply,
    Does that mean that I have to make a complete backup with iMazing of my whole iOS device every time to access AudioShare files on my computer ( Mac) ?
    🤔

    No. Sorry, I didn’t understand that all you want is to get the files on to your Mac. Just airdrop them or use AudioShare’s built in web server. AirDrop is super fast.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Is it possible to add a sidebar like the audiobus sidebar for the master output. Always trying to resize apps and think it might be ok with apps chosen but there will be some, plus a bit of extra screen gain. If the output were a sidebar.

    Thanks.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @j_liljedahl said:

    Is it possible to add a sidebar like the audiobus sidebar for the master output. Always trying to resize apps and think it might be ok with apps chosen but there will be some, plus a bit of extra screen gain. If the output were a sidebar.

    Thanks.

  • sigma79sigma79

    What do you think. Should I make my own apps or at least be hired as a free consultant?

  • sigma79sigma79

    So in the description. It says. Hide grey bar option but make a sidebar like audiobus, which also contains master output meter and the quick option to re-instate grey bars via sidebar. For midi users who launch app via midi. You are gaining a quarter of an ipad.

  • sigma79sigma79

    What do you think. As to humble my consultant abilities?

  • LiudesisLiudesis

    @j_liljedahl Is it possible to add image and text import to AUM Session notes? So, one could see chords or sheet music while playing or working with MIDI sequencer. PDF and notes from other apps - even better.

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence
    edited April 2021

    @Liudesis
    Have you tried to use another app on the side to display additional info?

    Not all apps support this, but many do.

  • LiudesisLiudesis

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    @Liudesis
    Have you tried to use another app on the side to display additional info?

    Not all apps support this, but many do.

    Great tip @0tolerance4silence! For Safari, Photos and Acrobat Reader it works. Thank you!

  • AlmostAnonymousAlmostAnonymous

    @Liudesis said:
    @j_liljedahl Is it possible to add image and text import to AUM Session notes? So, one could see chords or sheet music while playing or working with MIDI sequencer. PDF and notes from other apps - even better.

    Still kinda new, but I hope he supports images soon....
    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/session-notes-au/id1552595478

  • sigma79sigma79

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    @Liudesis
    Have you tried to use another app on the side to display additional info?

    Not all apps support this, but many do.

    Hi. Wasnt needing a description app or notes but thats cool. It were the description in the youtube video of the idea. The idea were for midi users who launch app. To hide the grey bar at top of apps, creating more space on ipad but also with a sidebar like audiobus. This way you can re-add the grey bars at top of apps but might not be ideal for a programmer to implement but if possible then it might be cool but also with sidebar show the master out. This way you could use all screen even more whist keeping eye on master out. So with master out on sidebar + hiding grey bars. You would gain loads of space. Another idea is to make the grey bars be a colour, like where you can change node colour in aum but theres no colour representation when you launch app. Theres 7 different colour imojis within apple imojis and you can match colour with aum. You can then add them emojis to drambo tracks as a name. Ideal for synth tracks if you use drambo to sequence auv3 but would be better if the grey bars at top of synth ( aum ) were the colours of the nodes.

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