I'm going to say something controversial -Samplr is NOT a must have app

AudioGus

@klownshed said:
Samplr has one thing going for it that I think makes it very valuable.

It’s one of the best examples of an app designed specifically for the iPad.

It is beautifully designed and the UI and UX are great.

A lot of audio apps on iOS are very similar in concept to desktop apps and in many cases look and feel like desktop apps (sometimes badly) squished into an iPad screen.

Samplr is designed to work in a way that is unique to multi-touch devices.

That certainly doesn’t make it essential, but it is one of those apps that can’t really be replicated on desktop, unlike many others.

Tis true! One 'desktoppy' thing I would love though is a Samplr-esque thing with a timeline that you can scroll along, loop bits and record into. Drool.

johnfromberkeley

Chiming in late to say that people can live without sex, too.

klownshed

@johnfromberkeley said:
Chiming in late to say that people can live without sex, too.

But the human race can’t. :-)

senhorlampada

I don't even know why I logged it to read this heresy

jk... Everyone is entitled to their wrong opinion

wim

@AudioGus said:

@rcf said:
I'm going to say something controversial:

There is no best band in the world...

...yet

Wrong.

Wyld Stallyns

senhorlampada

@wim said:

@AudioGus said:

@rcf said:
I'm going to say something controversial:

There is no best band in the world...

...yet

Wrong.

Wyld Stallyns

True dat!
https://pa1.narvii.com/7020/8cdc85cf3cdfa4efd55cec21c74db58c2bb49df0r1-341-362_00.gif

palms

"I'm going to say something controversial - A Spatula is NOT a must have."

"Oh, do you cook?"

"... uhhhhh "

"I'm going to say something controversial - Paintbrushes are NOT a must have."

"I didn't know you paint!"

"who said anything about painting? "

in other words, this thread is lame. You don't find a tool useful for whatever niche thing you're trying to do. so you feel the need to announce it to the world as though it should be true for everyone else.

If you'd have said:

"I'm going to say something that isn't controversial at all -Samplr is NOT a must have app for the music I make."

I would still think: why tf does anyone need to announce this to the world? But at least it would have been a coherent statement.

JudasZimmerman

I think this is a bit unfair - “essential” and “must-have” can be relative to the field of apps available, not necessarily to any single users actual music production. So for instance if you are making a list of the ten most essential IOS music apps (#7 will surprise you!) you may want to have Samplr on there, or if you want to show the range and innovative-ness of the App ecosystem to someone.

I certainly used lists like that when starting out and found them useful. Even though it made me get AUM before I had any AUs at all.

palms

@JudasZimmerman said:
I think this is a bit unfair - “essential” and “must-have” can be relative to the field of apps available, not necessarily to any single users actual music production. So for instance if you are making a list of the ten most essential IOS music apps (#7 will surprise you!) you may want to have Samplr on there, or if you want to show the range and innovative-ness of the App ecosystem to someone.

I certainly used lists like that when starting out and found them useful. Even though it made me get AUM before I had any AUs at all.

but relative to what purpose? point is that to assume that we're all trying to do the same thing with these tools makes an Ass out of U and Me. I've heard people make these kind of silly statements about fabfilter plugins too. If you don't have any interest in mixing, then the ff suite isn't likely to be "must have". But don't talk shit about it just because you don't find it useful.

The conversation is moot without talking about what the hell you're trying to do with it. context context context.

"as a carpenter, I find that scissors are not the best tool for building a cabinet"
vs
"TrIgGeR wArNinG: Scissors are NOT a good tool. Prove me wrong!"

iOSTRAKON

Let @jakoB_haQ break it down for you

Fast forward to the 22:25 mark / only negative thing I can remember him saying was the app hasn’t been updated since 2014. Well, we all know now that has changed after this vid was posted.

Essential? Up to you / Groundbreaking? You beat your ass it is

robertreynolds

@palms said:

@JudasZimmerman said:
I think this is a bit unfair - “essential” and “must-have” can be relative to the field of apps available, not necessarily to any single users actual music production. So for instance if you are making a list of the ten most essential IOS music apps (#7 will surprise you!) you may want to have Samplr on there, or if you want to show the range and innovative-ness of the App ecosystem to someone.

I certainly used lists like that when starting out and found them useful. Even though it made me get AUM before I had any AUs at all.

but relative to what purpose? point is that to assume that we're all trying to do the same thing with these tools makes an Ass out of U and Me. I've heard people make these kind of silly statements about fabfilter plugins too. If you don't have any interest in mixing, then the ff suite isn't likely to be "must have". But don't talk shit about it just because you don't find it useful.

The conversation is moot without talking about what the hell you're trying to do with it. context context context.

"as a carpenter, I find that scissors are not the best tool for building a cabinet"
vs
"TrIgGeR wArNinG: Scissors are NOT a good tool. Prove me wrong!"

This is true for me on a number of levels with Samplr.

I want to add a few things. At the app level, Sampler is great for certain types of projects, less so for others. However the true secret to using Samplr successfully is by getting to know which sample playback methods work for different sounds and then learning the ins and outs of each playback method. Samplr is ridiculously deep, and doesn’t give up these secrets easily. But once you understand them it’s a totally unique instrument that can’t be replicated by anything else. That in itself makes it a must have for me.

iOSTRAKON

Waiting on a reply from @Samflash3 // you asked for why and what makes Samplr great for workflow etc

Many have chimed in about it’s unique interface, how deep it is, groundbreaking [i could go on and on].

Also curious to see you post a vid of you using it in your workflow.

Samflash3

@iOSTRAKON said:
Waiting on a reply from @Samflash3 // you asked for why and what makes Samplr great for workflow etc

Many have chimed in about it’s unique interface, how deep it is, groundbreaking [i could go on and on].

Also curious to see you post a vid of you using it in your workflow.

In due time, in due time....

seonnthaproducer

Samflash3's gone. But I still have to share his ideas. He did make a video on it but forgot to upload it before he signed out.
Since you were his rival, @iOSTRAKON...

@Samflash3 said:

@iOSTRAKON said:
Waiting on a reply from @Samflash3 // you asked for why and what makes Samplr great for workflow etc

Many have chimed in about it’s unique interface, how deep it is, groundbreaking [i could go on and on].

Also curious to see you post a vid of you using it in your workflow.

In due time, in due time....

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

@seonnthaproducer said:
Samflash3's gone. But I still have to share his ideas. He did make a video on it but forgot to upload it before he signed out.
Since you were his rival, @iOSTRAKON...

@Samflash3 said:

@iOSTRAKON said:
Waiting on a reply from @Samflash3 // you asked for why and what makes Samplr great for workflow etc

Many have chimed in about it’s unique interface, how deep it is, groundbreaking [i could go on and on].

Also curious to see you post a vid of you using it in your workflow.

In due time, in due time....

Anyone ever tell you you look just like that samflash guy?

DatGood

Wait, didn't you "leave" via a big ceremonious thread? I can't keep up with ya'll.
@seonnthaproducer / @Samflash3

Fingolfinzzz

It’s all subjective

Lil_Stu07

Was hoping his “return” especially since he even created a new profile would let this all die. Now I’m wondering if he came back just to get some attention and views on his channel. 🙄

shinyisshiny

@seonnthaproducer samplr and figure are basically the same app. How are you going to say not to start off with samplr, then immediately suggest Figure ??

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

@shinyisshiny said:
@seonnthaproducer samplr and figure are basically the same app. How are you going to say not to start off with samplr, then immediately suggest Figure ??

I think you might have confused one of those for something else. They're nothing alike.

RUST( i )K

@iOSTRAKON said:
Please don’t take my comment as an insult. I’m not that type of guy

The value of Samplr or any app really depends on the type of artist you are and what style of genre you’re bending.

For me, Samplr fits my experimental nature perfectly. You truly have to take an abstract approach to this app. I believe it’s a must have in my arsenal due to the results I can achieve from it.

@Samflash3 said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
Samplr looks cool, but it doesn't exactly fit my workflow. Koala doesn't fit the way I make music either.

Drambo I would argue is the must-have app of 2020. Drambo as a standalone doesn't fit my workflow, but the fact I can use it as an AU does fit my workflow quite well. I'm more of a traditional "DAW programming" type of chap.

Agreed about Drambo being the must have app for 2020. I looked at it and I was like , “Welp! I guess I know where my rent money is going to”. (Still haven’t bought it but everyday I fight the temptation)

@iOSTRAKON Would you be able to share the reasons you like Samplr? I’m hoping to understand. Maybe I’m missing the benefit of the app.

Again, I think the app is fantastic (and I do have it). But, as a “broke college student”, I’d be inclined to say Koala has the better value.

Translation: You don't have the chops to make Samplr run top speed.....LOL

JUST KIDDING> @Samflash3 said:

I think that it should be Audioshare, and Koala Sampler. Maybe when Samplr was $9.99 it was, but even with the updates on Samplr, I think Koala has Samplr beat when it comes to price with value.

Not saying Samplr isn't a great app, but Samplr isn't the must have app of 2020.

(As with all discussions, please feel free to prove me wrong...or right..or otherwise).

EDIT: Whoa, this blew up. And not for good reasons.

I’ll say it again. Samplr is an amazing app and I do have it. I even designed a shortcut to make sampling easier on both apps - https://routinehub.co/shortcut/5189. I just feel that it has some serious competition unlike before. Koala is my choice, but someone else mentioned Drambo, Spacecraft, AUM.

For me, $3.99 for a sampling powerhouse makes a lot of sense versus $29.99 for Samplr, when it comes to price with value for the reasons listed below.

JOIN DATE JUNE 2019

SAMPLR was the first app to offer a performance based all in one instrument that functioned as a groove box, instrument, had FX, and WAS NOT CONFINED TO SIMPLE SAMPLE PLAYBACK with basic parameter controls. In essence the granular/wavetable functionality along with he automation component made SAMPLR one of the original apps to take full advantage of the IOS GUI for music production and performance.

I can compose a piece of SAMPLR that can compare to large swaths of people using ABLETON.

HOWEVER, have used it a LONG time.

But, not many apps can do that type of horsepower of creativity or multi use.

And if they do.......THEY DID IT YEARS AFTER SAMPLR.

SAMPLR 4 LIFE

seonnthaproducer

@shinyisshiny said:
@seonnthaproducer samplr and figure are basically the same app. How are you going to say not to start off with samplr, then immediately suggest Figure ??

I get where you’re coming from. My take on Samplr is that

• “Whoa, this is awesome”. But also,
  • “Whoa, this isn’t on an iPhone”.
  • “Whoa, this is $30”.

So, I was looking at entry level users with the post. I agree with you about the power of Samplr. I’ve started using it a LOT more but haven’t yet made a full project...YET.

@RUST( i )K - Great call. I agree with the power of Samplr. It’s an insane app that dictated the foundation of apps.

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
Anyone ever tell you you look just like that samflash guy?

No way. Wow, I wonder what happened to him...

espiegel123

SamplR is a unique instr. One gets it not because one wants "a sampler" but because one wants to play this particular instrument.

As many originally said:

• it isn't everyone's cup of tea
• It makes no sense to compare relative value of apps just because they make use of samples in some way
• No app is a must-have for everyone

I get the feeling OP doesn't understand what it does and who it's for

supadom

Air, food, sex, purpose, all essential. Everything else including Samplr is a cherry on top.

seonnthaproducer

Wasn’t expecting to resurrect this thread so soon, but...

KOALA as an AUv3? Woo!!!

Samu

@seonnthaproducer said:
Wasn’t expecting to resurrect this thread so soon, but...

KOALA as an AUv3? Woo!!!

It's got a lot of other nice updates and fixes as well.
I especially like the FXs that can be used while sampling/resampling now have an adjustable parameter.(long-tap to adjust).

Totally bonkers update in a very good way

Stuntman_mike

@iOSTRAKON said:
You’re drunk, sir

😆

Stuntman_mike

Desert Island Apps: AUM, Koala, NS2 (still), BM3 and of course Drambo.
All chosen purely based on their optimal workflows.

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supadom

@ehehehe said:
Meaningless thread, like comparing apples and oranges. Koala is a destructive, relatively conventional sampler/sequencer with the fastest workflow on this platform for me. Samplr is a sampler INSTRUMENT that could only work on a touch screen with multiple unique playback modes.

Fully agreed!!