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Dambro Vs Octotrack Vs Digitakt
What is the better ?
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yes.
I concur! Well said @wim
It depends on the category. They all can score depending of the category. Overall, I prefer Drambo because I love the iPad interface. For me, it’s way more intuitive to make music on iPad.
It depend on the workflow you want.
I like Drambo more, but there are a few things Elektron still has implemented (song mode, multi-in/out, loopers) that Drambo does not have yet. But all these things will be added eventually
what does Elektron song mode do that you can't do with pattern chaining in Drambo?
I owned a Digitakt for a while before I made the move to iPad. I've had Drambo for a couple of weeks. I can't find anything that I could do with a Digitakt that I can't do with Drambo. But Drambo can do a lot of things that Digitakt can't such as having synth modules as opposed to Digitakt which is just sample based. I was never impressed with the built in effects on the Digitakt and Drambo's effects modules are good and being modular you are able to use many modules to build interesting effects. The Digitakt also involves a lot of menu diving which I found annoying when doing it with buttons and knobs, adjusting things on Drambo is much more immediate and faster. I've never used Octatrack
Drambo is unquestionably better for one's bank account.
I posted this on another thread, but will add here for comparison.
Drambo = Octatrack & More
Poly2, EG Pulse, both with multi-out = Digitakt, Rytm, Samples
I love latter two tons. Drambo in time.
So honest question to the Elektron Users that use Drambo as well...
You are saying that you can just as easily tweak all 8 channels of, let’s say, a digitakt including effects, probability, pattern length, etc just as quickly in drambo Live?
Drambo is definitely less opaque than Octatrack. Way easier to navigate and understand. Also, not a fan of Elektron’s file management. The track count and polyphony is too low on Octatrack for me too. But, truth be told I enjoy dedicated hardware. Kind of a tough comparison because it relies on how somebody feels about working with ipads.
I prefer Drambo if we’re just limiting it to those three choices.
Drambo is the only of the three you can fit in your pocket.
Thank you
Why Poly2 and Eg pulse ?Can you explain please....
If you will only play at home - and never on a stage - Drambo is fine.
The pattern chain in Drambo is very simple (will get improved). You get one chain with all your patterns and the ability to loop through it. Octatrack has the ability to quickly select different patterns to chain. There is also the arranger mode which can be used to fully track out a song, and has a lot of useful features.
I never owned a Digitakt but this is one of the main reasons I got frustrated with my Octatrack. Tweaking anything more than levels required menu/mode diving and I never jelled with it the interface jamming or performing. Scenes were very useful but didn't make up for a lot... I wouldn't want to directly tweak synth parameters onscreen in drambo live, but with a midi controller you can map out the knobs you care about.
Poly2 is an 8 part polyrhymthmic drum machine. You can automate sample start/stop/loop, alter sample pitch. Each of the parts includes an LFO you can use for automation. Includes built-in reverb and delay. It's very much like a Digitakt, based on the feature set. What it can't do, you can't swap samples per step. In AUM, you can multi-out to route each sound to a separate track, so you can add FX using other AU.
EG Pulse is 16 part polyrhymthmic drum machine. You can also use multi-out here as well. It doesn't sample automation, but think of it like Beatmaker or Maschine as an AU. You can easily create kits with drag and drop. Those are able to be exported and backed up. Also, no sample change per step. Includes inbuilt FX as well. I prefer routing out to AUM for fx. Also, has a song mode for internal sequencer. You can edit samples and also slice larger samples to separate pads.
The beauty of these as AUs is that you can create kits and save them as AUM presets, which can swap out through program changes or midi cc.
Both as midi in, you can use other sequencers to play the sounds.
Definitely not. My main gripes with Digitakt was not having battery power and all of the menu diving. I like the idea of dedicated hardware when it has one button/knob per function but once I have to navigate several levels of menus to do things I might as well be using software
Drambo will be close to perfect for me once it gets multi out. For now I'm just putting time in trying to learn it inside and out.
Knobs.
Sixteen of them 😃
@rs2000 😍
Apples or pears, which is better? The question is, what do you want to do?
@Olv said:
Why is the better?
AFAIK no possibility to externally control program / project change on Drambo (yet). In one project on OT, you have 16 banks, each bank containing 4 parts: parts can be compared to a Drambo project (albeit with only four patterns each). So, with OT you can switch instantaneously (or on start of next bar, 2 bars, 16 bars etc) between 64 presets. The lack of midi Program Change receive in Drambo means its not useful for me in a live rig, where I need to switch programs remotely, not dive into menus on an iPad screen! And hosting Drambo in AUM is out of the question because AUM clock/transport when slaved to external midi clock is all over the place.
OTOH, Drambo slaves tight to external midi clock when hosted in Audiobus, but again, no way to change projects via midi program change.
Drambo sequencer doesn't have fills as on the OT, and having to insert a module to define length of individual sequencer tracks is convoluted compared to OT
I haven't tried using Drambo as master sequencer / clock to sequence external gear, and don't know if it can send midi program change, and don't know how stable it is as master clock / transport. But without Drambo being able to instantaneously switch projects, it looks like you have to menu dive and have a pause when switching projects. And for me, a Drambo project is a track / one composition. So for my live purposes - techno - breakbeat - electro sets - no way Drambo as is could replace the OT as the master midi sequencer, sample sequencer etc, nor could it replace the hardware synths I use (with their sequencers slaved to OT) with Drambo, because Drambo doesn't respond to midi program change. Hopefully this will be added with an update.
Drambo is fantastic - it's like a streamlined Reaktor 6; it's synthesis capabilities are v impressive; in some areas sample manipulation possibilities go beyond the OT. But in its current form - no way could I see it as a replacement for the OT or my HW synths for live use.
For use in tracks and for making stems it's fantastic.
Digging this thread. Thanks to all.
Similar question here. Particularly if you were to try to limit the possible Dramboverse to what the Digitakt can do via a semi 'fixed' preset configuration (like the DT has a fixed set of features). What about when you get an external MIDI controller involved?
@rs2000 Does that photo indicate you're using a Beatstep to control Drambo? If so, can I ask how you have it configured?
Just to be the contrarian in the room .. Synthstrom Deluge.
The modularity of Drambo is probably more similar to Octatrack than Digitakt ..definitely a tinkerers toolbox;
I love Drambo, especially when I want to experiment or do some interesting sound design. Though much of the time I just want to make music without being distracted by a thousand pieces of an erector set, in which case Deluge, GR-16 or Gadget are ideal, focused environments.
[edit] Once I compile a larger and more varied library of synth presets and sample libraries for Drambo, I could see it replacing other iOS Groovebox apps on my iPad. It’ll take some time to get there though.
this is a very strange comparison. digitact is generally superfluous in this series; it's just a drum machine based on samples. octatrack as written in the manual is a performance sampler. The octatrack is ideal for a variety of work in a live show. and drumbo is a dynamically developing modular environment with a very large number of features. Of course, digitact, drumbo and octa intersect at some point, but this does not provide any support for comparison.
If you lack workflow vision go with Elektron boxes. If you have a clear idea of what workflow you want then Drambo and a couple of controllers is heaven for home and live use.
I'm currently messing with launchkey mini mk 2 as Drambo companion and I'm getting close to hardware experience:
Pads stuck on midi channel 10 are mapped to transport, scenes and track mutes.
Keyboard, 8 knobs and 6 buttons per track with easy midi channel switching for part control.
Powers off IPad which means no need to be bound by a wall socket.
When Drambo gets session launch via midi that will make it as close to hardware as one can get. BTW this is already possible when hosted in Audiobus/AUM.
I'm planning to add Zoom U24 to have Audio and MIDI IO for more powa.
If you can't see the possibilities you're probably group A.
I'm guessing by your question that money isn't an issue
Even so I would say start by spending $20 on Drambo and then decide whether you really want to drop $700+ on Elektron kit...
I can post a screen shot of the editor later (or even post a setup file).
Using Arturia MIDI Control Center, set all knobs to send relative MIDI CC, and as far as I remember, I've used Relative Type 1 mapped to Drambo's first incremental menu entry.
What fresh hell is this!?