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Enso in AUM

I’m new to both programs. I got AUM About 3 weeks ago and Enso last Friday. Can somebody please tell me what this selection does? When I click or select it it turns another color but doesn’t appear to do anything. I don’t see it in either AB or CB3.

Really enjoying the app. Wish it had a binding for undo and quick save... I do get a crash from time to time... occasionally the app takes a long time to load and times out. I’m getting 30 seconds in the buffer and 5 minutes with long memory enabled. Really nice for me to record and loop multiple channels simultaneously. Still new enough that I’m just doing basic stuff...

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  • wimwim
    edited August 2020

    That icon just shows or hides any keyboard internally in the plugin, if the plugin has one and supports that function. It causes more confusion than it's worth IMO. You can just ignore it as far as Enso goes.

  • Thanks wim!

  • That question is asked a lot. The icon could be made to look more like keys...but he is going for a minimal look I guess.

  • wimwim
    edited August 2020

    Here's a short tutorial and video on one way to use Enso in case it helps:
    https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=tutorial_lower_session_cpu_usage_with_enso

  • edited August 2020

    @wim said:
    Here's a short tutorial and video on one way to use Enso in case it helps:
    https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=tutorial_lower_session_cpu_usage_with_enso

    Yeah that’s a must... I did watch that one before but I watched it again because I like the music! That’s your tutorial isn’t wim? Well done...thanks...

  • @sippy_cup said:
    That question is asked a lot. The icon could be made to look more like keys...but he is going for a minimal look I guess.

    Not too much to complain about really in the larger sense. I’m wondering why I resisted getting AUM for so long...it’s terrific. I think I’m more creative with it....

  • @lsd87 said:
    I’m wondering why I resisted getting AUM for so long...it’s terrific. I think I’m more creative with it....

    Ahhh.. another convert.. welcome to the “What do I need AUM for?” club..
    Until you try it, you just won’t know.. and then the lights go on.. or off.. or..??
    The secret handshake is..

    🤷‍♂️ 🤫

  • wimwim
    edited August 2020

    @lsd87 said:

    @wim said:
    Here's a short tutorial and video on one way to use Enso in case it helps:
    https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=tutorial_lower_session_cpu_usage_with_enso

    Yeah that’s a must... I did watch that one before but I watched it again because I like the music! That’s your tutorial isn’t wim? Well done...thanks...

    Thanks, yeh, I did that one. I get start to get annoyed by that beat by about 30sec in. Glad you had a higher tolerance. :D

  • edited August 2020

    is there someway to mute enso without sending it to another channel strip? the mute/solo doesn’t work in aums strip on enso for me when loaded in the effects slot

    needed for live performance

  • Using two Enso’s in a row can be quite productive for a bit of experimental fun. Have a long one to jam into first then grab the best few bars with the second, then bin the first one, before moving to the next channel.

  • edited August 2020

    Although not really a replacement for Enso in terms of looper functionality, I'm actually using AudioLayer much more often now because no matter how long the recorded tracks are, the AUv3 will practically never run out of memory.
    Also, I find it very convenient to trim the recorded audio and launch several clips via MIDI.

  • @reasOne said:
    is there someway to mute enso without sending it to another channel strip? the mute/solo doesn’t work in aums strip on enso for me when loaded in the effects slot

    needed for live performance

    I’m a newbie as described above, but I’m able to mute a channel with Enso playing. I simply to use the mute button at the bottom of the track. Sorry if I didn’t understand you correctly. I’d question using Enso in a live performance as it’s stability is suspect.

  • @robosardine said:
    Using two Enso’s in a row can be quite productive for a bit of experimental fun. Have a long one to jam into first then grab the best few bars with the second, then bin the first one, before moving to the next channel.

    Yeah...thanks!

  • @royor said:

    @lsd87 said:
    I’m wondering why I resisted getting AUM for so long...it’s terrific. I think I’m more creative with it....

    Ahhh.. another convert.. welcome to the “What do I need AUM for?” club..
    Until you try it, you just won’t know.. and then the lights go on.. or off.. or..??
    The secret handshake is..

    🤷‍♂️ 🤫

    My thanks to the welcoming committee. It’s good to know you guys have a sense of humor as mine is definitely half-baked.

  • @rs2000 said:
    Although not really a replacement for Enso in terms of looper functionality, I'm actually using AudioLayer much more often now because no matter how long the recorded tracks are, the AUv3 will practically never run out of memory.
    Also, I find it very convenient to trim the recorded audio and launch several clips via MIDI.

    Thanks for the heads up...

  • @lsd87 said:

    @reasOne said:
    is there someway to mute enso without sending it to another channel strip? the mute/solo doesn’t work in aums strip on enso for me when loaded in the effects slot

    needed for live performance

    I’m a newbie as described above, but I’m able to mute a channel with Enso playing. I simply to use the mute button at the bottom of the track. Sorry if I didn’t understand you correctly. I’d question using Enso in a live performance as it’s stability is suspect.

    Depends on whether Enso is pre or post fader. Pre fader, mute and solo work as you would expect. Post fader is post mute, so mute has no effect.

    Solo in AUM seems to be "mute everything else" instead of only routing that soloed channel to the output, so post fader things don't respect Solo either, which is, honestly, a bit annoying.

  • @aplourde said:

    @lsd87 said:

    @reasOne said:
    is there someway to mute enso without sending it to another channel strip? the mute/solo doesn’t work in aums strip on enso for me when loaded in the effects slot

    needed for live performance

    I’m a newbie as described above, but I’m able to mute a channel with Enso playing. I simply to use the mute button at the bottom of the track. Sorry if I didn’t understand you correctly. I’d question using Enso in a live performance as it’s stability is suspect.

    Depends on whether Enso is pre or post fader. Pre fader, mute and solo work as you would expect. Post fader is post mute, so mute has no effect.

    Solo in AUM seems to be "mute everything else" instead of only routing that soloed channel to the output, so post fader things don't respect Solo either, which is, honestly, a bit annoying.

    thank you man i’ll have to switch it to pre fade, i just have it on the default which must be post 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @lsd87 said:

    @royor said:

    @lsd87 said:
    I’m wondering why I resisted getting AUM for so long...it’s terrific. I think I’m more creative with it....

    Ahhh.. another convert.. welcome to the “What do I need AUM for?” club..
    Until you try it, you just won’t know.. and then the lights go on.. or off.. or..??
    The secret handshake is..

    🤷‍♂️ 🤫

    My thanks to the welcoming committee. It’s good to know you guys have a sense of humor as mine is definitely half-baked.

    I resisted for awhile too. I think a lot of people have over the years. For awhile I used AB3, Gadget, and Cubasis 2 and all are great, don’t get me wrong, but for me when I finally got AUM a year ago, so many Positive things happened in terms of my iOS music making.

    1. I understood and learned a lot more about music production ie routings, busses, LFO’s , etc...
    2. the quality of music I've made since getting AUM has steadily increased and still does
    3. I found my favorite workflow, which helps with #2, the quality, but also increases creativity
    4. The lights went on. Lol. seriously quite literally things kind of clicked for me.

    This is a good group of people, which makes for a very positive and very helpful forum. Welcome.

  • @reasOne said:

    @aplourde said:

    @lsd87 said:

    @reasOne said:
    is there someway to mute enso without sending it to another channel strip? the mute/solo doesn’t work in aums strip on enso for me when loaded in the effects slot

    needed for live performance

    I’m a newbie as described above, but I’m able to mute a channel with Enso playing. I simply to use the mute button at the bottom of the track. Sorry if I didn’t understand you correctly. I’d question using Enso in a live performance as it’s stability is suspect.

    Depends on whether Enso is pre or post fader. Pre fader, mute and solo work as you would expect. Post fader is post mute, so mute has no effect.

    Solo in AUM seems to be "mute everything else" instead of only routing that soloed channel to the output, so post fader things don't respect Solo either, which is, honestly, a bit annoying.

    thank you man i’ll have to switch it to pre fade, i just have it on the default which must be post 🤷🏻‍♂️

    FWIW, the default is pre.

  • FWIW, the default is pre.

    nope, it's a per user setting. Go to Settings/Channel Defaults...
    cheers

  • @Poppadocrock said:

    @lsd87 said:

    @royor said:

    @lsd87 said:
    I’m wondering why I resisted getting AUM for so long...it’s terrific. I think I’m more creative with it....

    Ahhh.. another convert.. welcome to the “What do I need AUM for?” club..
    Until you try it, you just won’t know.. and then the lights go on.. or off.. or..??
    The secret handshake is..

    🤷‍♂️ 🤫

    My thanks to the welcoming committee. It’s good to know you guys have a sense of humor as mine is definitely half-baked.

    I resisted for awhile too. I think a lot of people have over the years. For awhile I used AB3, Gadget, and Cubasis 2 and all are great, don’t get me wrong, but for me when I finally got AUM a year ago, so many Positive things happened in terms of my iOS music making.

    1. I understood and learned a lot more about music production ie routings, busses, LFO’s , etc...
    2. the quality of music I've made since getting AUM has steadily increased and still does
    3. I found my favorite workflow, which helps with #2, the quality, but also increases creativity
    4. The lights went on. Lol. seriously quite literally things kind of clicked for me.

    This is a good group of people, which makes for a very positive and very helpful forum. Welcome.

    Well said and thank you...

  • @electronicsfordogs said:

    FWIW, the default is pre.

    nope, it's a per user setting. Go to Settings/Channel Defaults...
    cheers

    ya my default is post currently

  • edited August 2020

    @Isd87, welcome to the Forum. I was a newbie a year ago and the advice I've gotten here has made all the difference in getting me fully and confidently into iOS music and leaving my laptop and Ableton on the shelf.

    Enso is weird, unique, takes some getting used to. But it does things I haven't seen anywhere else. I have two in my AUM setup. I use Ostinator as my primary "lead" looper, and the two Ensos on separate tracks for effects. My fav so far is to get one playing back the live lead at a slower speed (a 5th below) and reversed and the other playing faster (5th above) and reversed, both with different loop lengths. Then (using MIDI designer), crossfading between the two. Most of the time I'm using all my loopers as long delays, so everything is evolving and reflecting--at different times, different speeds, different pitches--the notes I play on my keyboard.

    Since Enso is AU and allows many instances, there's no limit to the number of creative things you can do with it. And AUM makes implementing those creative ideas possible.

    FWIW, I have never had Enso crash. Quantiloop, yes, but never Enso. (On an iPad Air 3). But I am going to check out wim's video to improve my setup.

    Steve
    ThinAirX

  • @ThinAirX said:
    FWIW, I have never had Enso crash. Quantiloop, yes, but never Enso. (On an iPad Air 3). But I am going to check out wim's video to improve my setup.

    That video is simply about quickly grabbing a passage and looping it to save CPU. It's probably not too relevant to what you're doing ... which really sounds fascinating btw. B)

  • Update out today

  • @ThinAirX said:
    @Isd87, welcome to the Forum. I was a newbie a year ago and the advice I've gotten here has made all the difference in getting me fully and confidently into iOS music and leaving my laptop and Ableton on the shelf.

    Enso is weird, unique, takes some getting used to. But it does things I haven't seen anywhere else. I have two in my AUM setup. I use Ostinator as my primary "lead" looper, and the two Ensos on separate tracks for effects. My fav so far is to get one playing back the live lead at a slower speed (a 5th below) and reversed and the other playing faster (5th above) and reversed, both with different loop lengths. Then (using MIDI designer), crossfading between the two. Most of the time I'm using all my loopers as long delays, so everything is evolving and reflecting--at different times, different speeds, different pitches--the notes I play on my keyboard.

    Since Enso is AU and allows many instances, there's no limit to the number of creative things you can do with it. And AUM makes implementing those creative ideas possible.

    FWIW, I have never had Enso crash. Quantiloop, yes, but never Enso. (On an iPad Air 3). But I am going to check out wim's video to improve my setup.

    Steve
    ThinAirX

    Steve,

    I’m new to AUM and Enso. I think I’ve been on the forum for nearly 2 years. I agree that the amount of information and the generosity of others, like yourself, is invaluable and a tremendous resource. Thanks for explaining a little about how you use loopers...it does sound very cool! I’m developing a small collection on loopers. At the moment Enso is getting my attention. The Enso crashes have been rather frequent. Don’t know if it’s iPad related, but I have 2020 pro 11”. Perhaps today’s update will help. Thanks for the advice...

  • Can Enso play more than one loop at a time or does it just jump from one “sector “ to another?
    I’ve read manual and looked at tutorias, spending far too much time trying to get a simple looper to work 😳. Is gauss (or any others) more user friendly? Interested in sound of it(degradation et.) but needs to keep time with host. Thanks!

  • @Zerozerozero said:
    Can Enso play more than one loop at a time or does it just jump from one “sector “ to another?
    I’ve read manual and looked at tutorias, spending far too much time trying to get a simple looper to work 😳. Is gauss (or any others) more user friendly? Interested in sound of it(degradation et.) but needs to keep time with host. Thanks!

    Only one loop per instance. But you can use more than one instance up to your device's memory limitations. Enso can have stability problems if you get too crazy with it.

    Gauss is a different animal. Stable, and great for sound experimentation and mangling. It does have an option to synchronize loop repeat with the host, but maybe not exactly what you're looking from.

    Loopy isn't AUv3 but it's terrific and really doesn't suffer for it as much as you'd think. Does require Audiobus, but can be super effective combined with Audiobus and AUM. Quantiloop and Group the Loop are also effective, though not AUv3.

    I wouldn't limit yourself to only AUv3's. Lack of it isn't nearly as much of an issue as you might think for a looper. Or ... wait for Loopy Pro (hopefully before the end of the year).

  • Thanks @wim !
    Enso definitely not for me by looks of it. Drawn to Gauss but hadn’t considered Loopy. Will take a look. Thanks again 👍🏻

  • wimwim
    edited August 2021

    @Zerozerozero said:
    Thanks @wim !
    Enso definitely not for me by looks of it. Drawn to Gauss but hadn’t considered Loopy. Will take a look. Thanks again 👍🏻

    If you're interested in checking out Loopy, this is a great place to start: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/35415/loopy-aum-audiobus-video-series/p1

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