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SeekBeats still rocking : anyone knows if still under development?
Hi audiobusies
Long time SeekBeats user here, still rocking and my fav iOS drum synth
I’ve been trying to contact the dev Rodrigo for a few months now, but cannot get through
While SeekBeats is working great, I am looking for ways to automate the parameters per track in the sequencer, unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be MIDI/MIDI learn to also control it with external hardware
Anyone has any idea if development is still ongoing for this product?
Thanks
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Love SeekBeats as well. Since all his other apps have been updated last two years or more ago I think it’s safe to say that the app has been abandoned.
One of my favorite and unique amongst a sea of drum synths and machines.
That would be sad, it is unique.
Yes truly unique.
I went through many iOS offerings since 2011, and it is intuitive, fun and easy in a way that is unmatched imo.
I noticed this year only a peculiar aspect : it seems to constantly ever-so-slightly modulating the sound. I was in the process of bouncing all my SeekBeats projects and had some I duplicated. While opening the bounces in a DAW to use on tracks, I inadvertently had two of the same beat and while playing them I heard some kind of phasing or comb filtering. I flipped the phase on one track and there was still bits of sound coming through. At first I thought I made a mistake in the bounce, but repeated it and still some slight leftovers but different. Which leads me to think SeekBeats has some micro-randomisations built in.
If it could have MIDI learn or parameter automation recording, it would be just perfect
I think it could have been more popular if the envelope lock held the decay and sustain settings. Too often you hit randomise and you end up with a non percussive droneo.
SeekBeats is amazing, I sent an email this week to suggest further midi implementation (random sliders, record, play, erase).
I encourage people to show him your appreciation for his work and buy some IAP if you can, it might encourage him to consider keeping it alive.
i wrote the dev a year ago. but he never got back.
already have all the IAPs, too.
there were a lot of posts lately on abandonware. i'm afraid this will be another one.
i am happy to have SeekBeats anyway!
i think i should have a look. thats exactly what i'm after:)
Yes happy here too to have it, even if it becomes abandonware
Had the same with Samplr a few years ago, then bam : got resuscitated which was unexpected, so who knows....
I also wrote several times to Rodrigo this year, always starting with how amazing SeekBeats still is for me, but haven’t heard back.
Of all the software bought on iOS that became : broken, obsolete, abandoned or forgotten (the latter by me, nested in obscure folders) SeekBeats is the only one I wish would still be developed further
My most interesting rhythmic sequences have been created with it, regardless of iOS or Mac OS/Win, hardware samplers (although Elektron gear might take over)
If anyone could signal the developer that there seems to be continued interest, an idea?
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@saxophonick Yep. Agreed. I honestly don’t think that it’s going to be abandoned? I’ve chatted with this dev and from speaking with him, well he’s a good guy. I don’t know anything about further development of SB but I’ve got a good feeling about it. SeekBeats is great indeed.
Yes I’ve chatted with him too a few years back by mail and indeed was nice talking. Fingers crossed, as the workflow of this app is just so intuitive and fast, combined with a sound of its own, it just works and is so damn close to perfect.
Imagine if he would extend his line with the same edit-ability, envelopes and sequencer, but to synths, like SeekMono, SeekBass, SeekPoly, SeekSample....oh my
All AUv3, with MIDI & parameter automation, of course
one can dream....
we shall see
@saxophonick Ya. I agree with you about the micro randomness. One of my favorite attributes with SeekBeats is the randomization. Such a great tool for making different, glitchy type stuff if you’re into that sorta thing. Also agree with having midi learn added. This dev has been fairly responsive in the past and I’m gonna shoot him an email in the morning. See if I can ask him a couple of questions? You never know when something might spark interest in someone? Midi learn would be great. I’m assuming that AU would be pretty much out of the question as he’d have to rebuild but can you imagine? Sweet.
I am too a big fan of seekbeats but not using it as I keep everything in AUs. It’s a pity as to me, it’s the best sounding drum synth on iOS. Mostly the punchy kicks and snares I can get out if are yet unmatched.
Currently using SeekBeats in a track. Just cutting resampling loops in AUM. So good.
yeah, there's a strange psychology behind not using those iaa apps. why should one NOT use an app that is just great just because it's not au3.
big up for not caring!
So true. I even worked only with apps that had not connectivity at all (no IAA, AB and AUv3) in a track these days
Of course, i was recording to a hardware sampler. But I would be missing some great sounds if I ignored them
Yes here too still using IAA or half broken old apps that can still deliver something.
We have to do with what we have, and all too often in the last decade we have a feature request popping up in our heads for every release just because software or software-based hardware can be enhanced, and we can reach developers, therefore we don’t have to do with what we have
- it is all a sign of the post 2000 music making where committing to an idea, a sound, a limitation, immuable hardware with warts and no upgrades is less common or desirable for many.
How this impacts music making is a constant topic of interest for me as it keeps evolving now to one side then to the other, but completely OT
I will just say this : when there were much less iOS apps or desktop software for music production, we had to conform to what the limitations and design of the app were, bending our way of working and learning a tool for how it really was if we wanted to use it. As online communities grew, along with developers, and direct contact with them, this led to a diversity of apps that we have now that is huge, misleading us to believe that an app is almost tailor-made for us. How many times do we read (guilty) : if said app could have this it would be just perfect.
Personally, I always hesitate when posting these kinds of topics, as the first thing that comes to my mind as I start writing a hint to a request is “you spoiled brat, do with what you have”
Specifically here, in this case, I’ve rarely been so enthusiastic about an app as SeekBeats, it is the first and most regular one that I am able to use outside the iOS sphere for some time.
For my workflow though, I tend to always automate parameters live or with mouse/controller recording for my beats since I started about 20 years ago, and the touch-screen way of doing this with SeekBeats (for instance with the brilliant envelope screen) is too coarse or prone to sudden jumps in values as I can not control SeekBeats via a MIDI controller that can be much more subtle.
Personally, it really is a case of 99% there, not that I will stop using SeekBeats if it doesn’t, but I am able to get much more out of Microtonic on desktop because of the external controllability with hardware, though I prefer the sound of SeekBeats by quite a margin. Tremor from FXpansion sounds absolutely gorgeous but its crowded interface and gazillion options tend to take my focus away. Then you have Drambo that is a limitless intuitive and fun monster, except you have to know a lot about sound-design to create great drum sounds, SeekBeats has the edge for me when it comes to percussive sounds.
So, all SeekBeats enthusiasts, let’s write a big love letter to the dev
From what everyone said here (and something of mine too)...
Wishlist:
Please, what do you use for resampling? Internal recorder or some AU?
With AUM, I am somehow lazy to do resampling and chopping the bits, but maybe I should get used to this kind of workflow... In BM3, I don't hesitate to record and chop the loop, it's quite easy and works fine most of the time.
For the others: Of course you can use SeekBeats via IAA or Audiobus. I just got too comfortable with having the whole project encapsulated inside the host and not needing to load preset in other app. Also both IAA and Audiobus are much less stable than AUs from my experience, so I stopped using them after many frustrations from app crashes. Resampling sounds like a way to go, probably I should get to use to it more to use the apps that currently just collect dust.
Nice point, @skrat
And curious too regarding gus' workflow
And you even shed a light on what I want regarding multi-out on EFX
It can be a pain in the ass, but I just gotta mute and record one at a time.
Sometimes my slow thinking surprises me
I use it in AUM too for resampling for now
Sync does not always start on the 1st beat, but is still not hard to edit
I save the AUM sessions with the tempo written in the name, and recuperate the files from iCloud on computer and then in Live, Logic or Reaper depending the purpose
I am thinking of updating to a more immediate way to export the SeekBeats tracks through AUM : with a iConnectivity audio interface, which can route multitrack iOS through USB in individual channels on computer, but having already multiple interfaces I hope Apple will make multichannel audio streaming over USB possible, if not mistaken now it is limited to 2 tracks
It would be sick but unfortunately the developer is unresponsive. Drambo is the answer to al almost anything
I still use it to make drum samples. I think it’s the best drum synthesizer on the platform. Excellent UI and fast work flow.
I just load it up mulitout. Record 8 channels at once to wav. Maybe change up 6 of the sounds using the random slider and some tweaking. 6 because I never touch the kick and the snare
. Then record those out to wav. Etc. Then load them back in to AUM file player. Add FX. Then the final wavs either end up in BM3 for editing and adding midi etc. Or Reaper on the desktop.
I could do it all in BM3 but I just find AUM also immediate for cutting loops.
Is seekbeats still a stable app under the current IPAD OS ?
I am curious about this app and read in the review on the store that someone mentioned it wouldn’t be stable anymore and crashing sometimes ... since IPad OS - this review was about a year ago and the last update of the app two years ago -
So - before not buying it because of a single review on the store - how are your experiences?
Cause I really like seekbeatsˋ sound and features ,,,, !
@Bon_Tempi It still loads on 14.4 in AUM and Audiobus.
I was sure I used to be able to route midi to it though and I can’t now.
Ok, thanks for the status update
MIDI works in AUM for me. iOS 14.4.2
It might be me being a daftee. I will try again later.
Make sure "Virtual In" is enabled in settings.