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I am very excited by the possibility of streaming multichannel from AUM to Mac for Logic.
Will have a play but should I add Sonosbus AUV3 to each AUM channel or what is the correct set up?
THANK YOU!
Add it to an effect slot for any channel you want to send. If you do not need separate channels then you can bus send all of your AUM channels to one channel and put SonoBus on that.
I have not used it with another machine so I do not know if it is best practice to have one SonoBus running on the Mac per sending channel or to send them all to one receiver. I seem to recall multi-out support was recently added in which case you may only need the one SonoBus running on the receiving end which coordinates all of the senders and routes them elsewhere.
I've been trying to get multi track/channel out AUM to Logic for months. This looks like it might be the solution.
So added one to each track and can see the multimix on the iPAD. A good start!
Now to try and get Logic working. THIS IS INSANELY COOL!
so got it coming into the Mac but boy it's glitchy. Got it at 48khz. Is there a way for it not to have to use Wifi?
You can buy an ethernet adapter which should improve latency. Also try changing the audio “send quality” to one of the PCM options as I recall it being said that this was actually faster due to the data not being compressed.
Edit: also make sure you mute if you are not sending. By default both sides send data but you can mute the sending of data, e.g. from your Mac to iPad as you only care about the other direction. I have no idea whether this has a significant impact on performance but it can’t hurt to be sending/processing less data.
what happens when the device is connected via usb to your mac? is it still using the wifi to send the data the?
How can I determine if it's still using the wifi? I'm now connected with a CCK.
you could disconnect from wifi to test
Ah good idea! It's 100x worse with Wifi off!
that's odd. but maybe it is using both to send the data
This did look so promising. I've emailed them, will report back.
I know this might have some interesting case uses, but I would really like to do this without having to connect to the Internet when I want to transfer audio. It's not the droid I'm looking for unfortunately. If this could run a local server then it would indeed be a sweet solution. I could run the server off the Mac and the Mac and iPad could be connected directly via one Ethernet cable. Will stay in watch mode.
From further reading of the user group it appears that there might be a way to create a local server instance...
Just found the GitHub files for the AOO server which can be built in Xcode....one step at a time....so I'm thinking if I can build the server on the Mac I should be able to run it there to create initial connection and then "hey presto" I'm working in my own world...which then leads to other possibilities, but as they say one step at a time...Xcode - 11GBs.....
It looks like you can choose local network but not got that to work yet.
Direct mode is an option, but as NimboStratus says, I have not got this working except for when using it in loopback mode for https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/43076/use-sonobus-to-expose-daw-tracks-to-aum
If I had persisted then I could have probably got it working by changing some port settings on my router.
This sounds like an Ethernet configuration issue.
Is your iPad connected to a WiFi/Ethernet bridge or directly to the Mac? You ideally want the latter. A worst case can be one device on WiFi and one on the Ethernet. Our WiFi modem as an Ethernet bridge built-in but it is way slow for some reason between a device connected to the Ethernet port if receiving data from a WiFi-connected device.
I have just bought a usb to Ethernet adaptor. So will try iPad->CCK->Ethernet adaptor->router->Mac
Does your Mac have an Ethernet connector? How is it connected?
I have added a wiki page for Sonobus and started to flesh out how to set it up for multi-bus use.
https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=sonobus
It would be great if people could add their knowledge!
I'll also repost this from another thread about setting up multi-channel sending with one instance using AUM:
ON iOS SIDE WITH AUM
Because the SonoBus AUv3 supports multiple input and output buses, and so does AUM, you can build up your AUM tracks for the all the sources you want to use.
Then create a new track for SonoBus to live on, insert it as an effect plugin.
Then on each of your source tracks, add an insert at the end of the effects chain and choose Multi-bus Audio Unit Instances->SonoBus. You should see that it selects one of the input and output buses to route to/from. The first one you route will probably show ->2 2->, the next ->3 3->... this means it will be routing into the Aux 1 and Aux 2 buses as SonoBus sees them internally.
Next, in the SonoBus UI for the plugin in AUM, select the INPUT MIXER at the top, now you will want to create an input group for each of the sources you set up in AUM and routed into SonoBus's buses. For instance if you have stereo sources in your AUM track you will use the + button in the SB input mixer to add a stereo input group. Then you should select the appropriate input source for each one with the button on the left. Like I said, Aux 1 corresponds to Input Bus 2 as AUM represent them. The button on the far right side of the input mixer lines in SB route the monitoring output, so you'll want to choose the Aux Output corresponding to the input (so that you can monitor your track with AUM). You should name each input group so that you can see which is which on the remote end.
The Main Input channels inside SonoBus comes from the input to the AUM track that you inserted the SonoBus plugin in, but you don't have to even use that those, in this example... we're just using Aux ins/outs for the multiple sources you want to send out.
Finally, select Send Multichannel in the selector at the top center of the SonoBus UI. Now, all of your channel groups you have set up in the input mixer will be sent independently, and you can route them separately on the receiving end on another machine running the SB plugin in a DAW, etc... all using only a single SonoBus instance on each side.
ON THE OTHER END
However, note that not all DAWs on the computer end can support the multi-bus outputs... or they might need special treatment. For instance, Reaper or Ableton Live both work fine and can access and route all the buses from the plugin without extra trouble. However, if you are using Logic on a mac, you will need to insert the SonoBus plugin on an Instrument track in the instrument plugin slot to get access to the multi-bus outputs. When you do this, you will see a little + down in the mixer, and pressing that gives you access to the additional buses. You also need to route audio internally in the SonoBus plugin to the Aux outputs... so if you are receiving multi-channels from the iOS end as described above, on the computer end you would expand the strip so you can see all the channel groups, and on the right side hit the button to select which Aux Output you want to route them to.
I've provided an illustrated guide in the wiki here:
https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=sonobus
Feel free to make any additions/corrections there.
Thanks, I inserted a note about the monitoring routing in the input mixer, but if you want to update the screenshots to reflect that, it would be handy....
Thanks! I didn’t realize. I’ll try to get an illustration up this afternoon.
Hopefully, the additions make it clear
https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=sonobus
When can we try this Sonobus app ?
Sounds hype AF
Yes, looks good, thanks!
You can try it right now, it’s an open beta!
https://sonobus.net
Click on the iOS link there to join.
I guess i can't try it because of region. Idk if Testflight works here in LATAM and i guess it's USA/Europe only ?
@raimundoarriagada it works in Australia, so 🤷♂️...maybe. Seems weird they wouldn't include every part of the world for TestFlight duties though...
I just received the Anker USB A/ethernet gigabit bridge ($18 from Amazon) and am able to use it with a better power supply than the Apple one -- or from my Mac (usb/lightning cable from MacBook usb port to the CCK lightning port) -- or with my powered Belkin USB hub connected to the USB port of the CCK and the ethernet dongle connected to the Belkin. With the USB hub, I don't need power going to the CCK's lightning in.
If your powered hub to the CCK isn't working, you may need a different hub. My Belkin hub, btw, was an inexpensive one.
The latency/jitter is impressive -- much better than self-sending from the iPad! I am sending 4 stereo tracks. The latency is on the order of 20ms and jitter buffers is 12 ms with no lost pockets or dropouts.
@Sonosaurus: in the self-send case (wifi turned off to ensure packets are not going through our router), I am occasionally seeing dropped packets (and accompanying audio glitches) at the auto selected jitter rate (which is about 12 ms). Manually setting it to 20 ms seems reliable. I was a little surprised that there would be lost/dropped packets.