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Send me some links to your wackadoo new age woowoo stuff please. I actually like a lot of it.
I regularly use the Brain Wave app. I'm too skeptical to fully believe it really is effective. But it does have a background noise generator which is handy for shutting out the wife's audiobooks / YouTube videos, etc, which she declines to use earbuds for. I figure I might as well add in a "Critical Thinking", "Problem Solving", or "Stress Reduction" background binaural beat in the background if I have to do that anyway to concentrate.
I have used it to put me to sleep when I'm stressed. I'm reasonably sure it works for that, but can't say for sure. I'll turn it on for a 15 minute sequence, then realize it's over already ... six hours later. Falling asleep with earbuds in is not fun or recommended though.
Apologies to the OP for the sort of off topic post.
(I listen to that one when I have problems falling asleep).
I don’t think the point of tuning to 432 is about how it sounds.
It has to do with subtle energy effects on living things.
So you should ask how it feels, not how it sounds.
Then your answer varies, depending on how sensitive the person is to how they feel.
That probably even varies moment to moment, depending on the person’s current brain activity.
To say 8Hz is insignificant or too small is misleading, too.
It depends on what frequency range you are talking about, anyway.
Look at the list @samu posted, and notice that most of the different categories are well within a 8Hz range of frequencies from each other.
Or if you don’t believe in that BW stuff, try adjusting an LFO, and then tell me 8Hz is an insignificant difference.
@SimonSomeone
Yeah, no harm intended.
Sorry, you just setup that punchline and I couldn’t stop myself.
I am trying to do better. Election results got me all giddy for a bit.
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Should be noted that 'beat frequency' is a completely different thing that 'tuning frequency'.
So if the tempo of a song is 120BPM the beat frequency is 2Hz if it's a 4/4 beat...
If you want to get dizzy and vomit modulate a 50Hz sine wave with +/-10Hz at at 5Hz rate and add a few Hz difference between Left and Right channel, preferably inverting one channel for extra 'puke factor'.
Messing with audio and physics is fun and entertaining
@cracklepot no worries! I do actually have a tuner. Sometimes I even use it! (actually all the time when I'm gigging, at home, not so much)
I'm open to the idea that some people may be more aware of subtle tuning differences than others. And 8hz is going to be a noticeable difference when 2 instruments are that out from each other, sure. or in the other examples you give where (I think ) it's not so much about the pitch of a fundamental tone.
It's just listening to a piece at 432 vs 440 in isolation, I seriously doubt whether anyone could tell. You'd have to have extreme perfect pitch. Or, believe that it has some psycho-acoustic effect. Which I remain dubious of.
@SimonSomeone
If you consider resonance effects, 8Hz makes a world of difference, too.
The old shattered wine glass demo needs to be within a single Hz range to shatter the glass, I think.
The instructions for doing the experiment call for adjustments of 0.1Hz to find the glass resonant frequency.
OK, but there's no common denominator tied to any particular frequency as the 432Hz acolytes claim. I can believe that subtle differences in tuning reference lead to subtle differences in "feel", but the idea that there's some common reference has got to be baloney. Every object (including hearing organs) has unique resonances. The idea that there's some common "magic" to a particular musical tuning base frequency is ridiculous. IMO.
That said, there's way more to music perception than physics. If 432Hz triggers some kind of good response in someone, for whatever reason, then I call that a beautiful thing ... for them.
I agree, until you consider the effect on water.
I don’t know how legit they are, but there are supposed experiments showing observable effects of 432 vs 440 on water molecule structures, or ice crystal structures, I can’t recall exactly.
But, if this is true, it seems pretty easy to see how living things are affected, since the water is one of the primary requirements for earth life, and we are mostly made of water.
Could also be a bunch of baloney, but I gotta remain open on this one. I don’t think it is so simple as some people have argued.
I call baloney. There are an infinite number of factors that would affect the influence of frequency on water molecules. Even if there were some truth to it then it certainly wouldn’t neatly tie to some arbitrary unit of measure only invented in 1933.
OK, I’m out.
Logic vs. emotion never gonna get along or accomplish anything. ✌️❤️
Just calling baloney...
Is that logic or emotion?
🧠 vs. 🫀
It could be the physical phenomenon that is important, not how we measure or label it. The vibrational frequency exists before we know about or can measure it, right?
This whole 432 thing being more "natural" is absolutely baseless, and I can't believe people are still on about this after all these years. It only speaks to the lack of understanding regarding musical pitch.
please check the facts vs fiction on this. You can go on choosing to believe disproven nonsense about the vibrations of nature and that the nazis introduced the 440 standard, but then the joke's on you...
https://ask.audio/articles/music-theory-432-hz-tuning-separating-fact-from-fiction
Here's a good video that goes into just tunings that would have a MUCH more profound (and interesting!) effect than pitching your turntable up or down a few cents to "align with the music of the spheres"
As others have noted here, if you are playing in equal temperament and you tune it down 8 cents, it's still in ET (which means all those intervals are still slightly out of tune with one another). Proportionality remains unaltered.
"Nature" literally comprises everything in our universe, including the device you are reading this on. The idea that one frequency is more aligned with nature is absurd. It's like saying a particular shade of blue aligns with the cosmos more than another. It's a meaningless statement.
Tuning does matter, but the tuning that matters is that of relationships between intervals within a spectrum. Hz and cents are man-made measurements that happen to be totally arbitrary! and if you believe that anything man-made is unnatural, well then you're SOL if you want to make music that is natural, because everything you will use to make music is made by humans, all based on arbitrary decisions (pitches per octave, timbre, irrational vs rational intervals, rhythm, meter, base frequency, etc)
Those ridiculous cymatics "proofs" of magical resonance don't take into consideration the resonant frequency of the thing being resonated. very simple to debunk if you have even a basic understanding of acoustics.
@palms
I was specifically referring to living things on Earth, not all of Nature, as well as water and how it is common to all living things on Earth, and how vibrations affect water on a molecular level through sympathetic resonance, not a Cymatics demo using a vibrating metal plate.
Your statement about making music is wrong. You can simply vocalize a world of sounds without any man made device necessary.
There is probably a level of truth to what you a saying. But you seem predisposed on this subject. This 432Hz stuff, if it is true, would exist even if humans never existed to discover it. The arguments about arbitrary human measurements is missing this point. Does a length change in reality depending on if you use Standard or Metric.
What if 432 simulates redshift to the observer and gives a feeling of an expanding universe?
For compression, use 448 instead of an actual compressor.
To simulate observation of an event horizon from the outside, tune to 0.
From the inside, maybe ♾, but nobody knows for sure.
as @CracklePot says "it's how it feels, not how it sounds",, which, when it's just me n my ipad is just dandy,
and, as others have said, the practicalities of playing in groups, makes a standard very useful.
@SimonSomeone used the analogy of speed,, well i once had a car, that, at 60mph, would vibrate, rattle n hum, just above this speed = fine, just below this speed = fine, but at 60mph ~~~
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it may not have been mystical, but it was certainly physical
i think keeping an open mind is a useful trait
The thing is, again, that the Hz unit and its base unit (seconds) are completely arbitrarily defined by humans. So it would be an outrageous coincidence if a whole number (432) of vibrations per arbitrary unit of time (second) were in any way "special".
I agree with that way of looking at it, but look at it in terms of wavelength. The specific frequency we call 432Hz has a constant wavelength. You could measure it however you want, it stays the same.
Now consider how this length could relate in significant way to some aspect of a water molecule or ice crystal, or even DNA if you are feeling imaginative.
It may be nothing, but I don’t know.
I doubt anybody around here can actually prove anything either way, so I encourage people to be skeptical while keeping an open mind.
The wavelength of 432 Hz is not constant and depends, among others, on air temperature and pressure. And the original problem still remains. Even if the speed of sound (which determines wavelength) were constant, why would the wavelength of the wave front generated by a sound source oscillating at specifically 432 Hz (and not 432.128202729292 Hz) be "special"?
The problem is not even physical, it's more fundamental -- why would the number 432 in connection with arbitrary units like Hz be special?
Anyway, back to bed, same thing I've been doing for the past few weeks mostly anyway 🤷♂️
Good night
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Yeah, ive researched this as a non technical human and I try to pretend to feel the difference. I cannot. Like a guitarist will play for music in one tuning and then other and its same to me. I like both as long as its not microtonal as much of a manic as I want be I find microtonal to be harmonic crimes unless its normal analog drift sometimes or something subtle. I read the book on 528 the love harmony which goes into tuning and it was great positive stuff but I don't know It still is just ok.
Binuaural beats however work, and can induce States of mind or sleep or astral travel.
yep, the 432 thing is absurd to me as it boxes music into a rigid grid of hz. It's like picking a point on a hill in your backyard and deeming it god's chosen location because you feel it's true. I guess if we're going to be throwing any evidence based reasoning out the window, then well anything is true if you believe it to be. I've looked into this matter with an open mind and it didn't take long to see through the circular logic and the reliance on magical thinking to arrive at the 432 thing. If 432 had any significance whatsoever, humans would gravitate toward it musically and we would see it pop up throughout history, but we simply don't.
The fact of the matter is, when left to our own devices, we tune relatively to other pitches using small frequency ratios, tunable by ear. if 432 mattered, we'd be able to get there without any special equipment to tune to 432. We cannot. but we can certainly tune perfect frequency ratios to build a perfectly tuning set of pitches without any knowledge of math or the need for any special equipment. People do it without thinking when they sing harmonies together. There is ample evidence for this in the long history of polyphonic vocal music all over the world.
Regarding the resonant frequency of water and how it might relate to musical tuning:
First, how do you go about measuring the frequency of a water molecule by ear? I reckon people used to know how to do this but somehow we lost this important skill...
Second, what is the temperature of your molecule when you tune to it, as the frequency is most certainly affected by fluctuations in temperature and pressure (not to mention the effects of the location of Saturn in relation to said molecule)?
"these affirmations don't work" is still an affirmation
maybe when people tuned to their environment,
maybe they were in tune with their environment?
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ᶦˢ ᶠᶦˣᶦᶰᵍ ᵃ ʳᶦᵍᶦᵈᶦᵗʸ ᶦᶰ ᵘˢ,
ᶫᶦᵏᵉ ᶠᵒʳᵐˢ
ᵐᵃʸᵇᵉ ᵇʸ ᵈᵒᶦᶰᵍ ˢᵒ,
ʰᵘᵐᵃᶰᶦᵗʸ ʰᵃˢ ᵍʳᵒʷᶰ﹖
Luckily the ipad (ᵃᶰᵈ ᵗʰᶦˢ ᶠᵒʳᵘᵐ) has room for all
ᵗʰᵃᶰᵏˢ ᶠᵒʳ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵖᵃᶜᵉ ᵗᵒ ᵗʰᶦᶰᵏ ᵒᵘᵗ ᶫᵒᵘᵈ