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Not sure about the iOS apps but at least there is a solution for the non-working intel stuff.
You also can force Logic to start under Rosetta and then everything works fine here. Of course in this mode iOS apps and other ARM optimised tools will not run in Logic then.
Oh and another thing i see that the new M1 seems to have in general a higher latency (mostly about 2-3ms more) in every setting as my old one.
I’ll likely never drop iPad entirely for M1 unless they make a hybrid tablet/laptop that’s functionally identical to iPad in iOS mode. Going to wait till the platform matures a while before I buy in at all, since there are still too many x86 plugins that won’t work at all (or well) yet.
Hopefully the platform marketshare grows enough to entice big name devs (UH/E, NI, Ableton, etc) to invest in native releases in the next few years. I imagine we’ll start to see some trickle down to iOS if/when that happens, since the bridge from M1 to iOS is relatively short work.
i’ll use both obviously
Edit to the latency i might confused it and so while i get indeed shorter one way latency on the old one the round trip latency is actually shorter (or quite the same) on the M1 machine. So all is good.
U-he is already working on it and some others as well and there are already a few ARM ready plug-ins.
Also now when i run Logic under Rosetta so far EVERY plug-in i tested works and still performs much better than on my old noisy i7 quadcore oven. N.I. tools also working but you cannot load the Native Access app and so you cannot use the non-demo version. This is odd. All i need is Kontakt and i could delete the rest of my Komplete 12 Package. N.I. is too often the joy killer while they have too much old code to handle.
Also the ones which gives trouble also seems to have trouble on my old one which running also Big Sur, so its not the M1 always but Big Sur.
I made a few test (but some are still open) and the conclusion is that mostly i can run, even under Rosetta, 2-3 times more of everything as on my old macbook pro.
Now when i think about a coming 16" with maybe double the performance cores and more optimized apps it could maybe run at least 4 times more from everything. No current intel machine of this size comes even close and that without thermal throttle so far and much much better battery life.
I am really impressed from this little machine.
This contains a lot to consider:
M1 MacBook vs iPad Pro & Air: Which Should You buy?
Dual boot macOS and iOS on a 13” iPad with a touchscreen and proper connectivity please. This is the only scenario I’d consider.
If this happens then it looks like Apple will have to make a move then. Sales of iPads will drop. iOS musicians are being creative on iPads because apps are cheaper, and of course the touch screen is magic in some apps. If this happens they might just blend macOS with iPadOS finally we will have a touchscreen Mac. Or not a Mac, not an iPad, it would be a brand new category.
I’m actually quite tempted to get an Air (for work!) and load it with just Logic for music.
I’ve got a fair few plug ins on my MBP but a lot of them are really pissing me off so it would be nice to have a fresh clean install with no extras which I’ll leave on my MBP (which in the case of plugins like Waves wouldn’t be an option as they only allow one install without an update plan. Grrrr) and only install new ones that are UB and where the developers don’t treat customers as if they’re dishonest and make us jump through hoops to prove we’re worthy of an install*. Oops. Rant over.
An air would possibly replace an iPad for audio as the smallish form factor, battery life and fan-less-ness of it means I could use it where I wouldn’t use my 15” MBP.
Perhaps that’s wishful thinking :-)
*which ironically the pirates don’t suffer from!!
Seems pretty accurate to me. One thing that I noticed is a bit wrong is that on i(Pad)OS it does use memory compression that helps somewhat like swap. macOS does both memory compression and swap, so it does have that in its favor. Either way, both OS'es work very well with smaller amounts of RAM on the ARM CPU's,
I think it comes down to if you want a more traditional audio workflow or you want the feel of the iPad. I've actually just started playing with Logic Remote and MainStage on the M1 Mini. This is really slick. I'd already started towards using the iPad to control some embedded systems audio stuff I've been playing with and I think that using an iPad to control other audio devices is a really powerful and natural feeling approach.
On modern Macs, you can run an app “on” the iPad via sidecar. It’s terrible. Trying to tap the buttons and menu items, even with an Apple Pencil, is an awful experience.
I don’t have that kind of money
I could see myself making the jump in a couple of years once the majority of the issues have been sorted and developers have had time to make the proper adjustments.
Probably gonna end up trading my iPad Pro out for an Air. Logic and Helix Native are hard to give up for me. As much as I like the iPad, it’s still a crippled experience. Sometimes I might want to use the built in speakers while an interface is connected. And while it’s cool you can use external drives now, there’s no way to format or partition or do anything but read and write files to them. Maybe I’m dreaming, but I think iPad Pro should eventually be able to do most of the same things a Mac can, just with a different interface.
The more I think about it the more I think the iPad Pro is pretty much now dead.
If I were to upgrade this iPad Pro (which is the one before they started having equal sized bezels) I’d have to upgrade to a new pencil too, and I’d have to upgrade to the new fancy expensive keyboard. With all that extra spending people might just think go for a bottom-end M1 MacBook Air and abandon touch altogether for a while. That’d be my thinking. The extra expense of the accessories like the keyboard for the iPad might as well be put into the cost of the MacBook Air instead.
The Pro still has some use cases that set it apart, but there aren't very many where it looks to be a better choice than the new iPad Air. I think it still looks like a better device for graphical/visual artists. If you are mainly a keyboard entry sorta person, I can't see using the iPad Pro over the new M1 laptops.
My future plans look like they'll be moving to using a Mac of some sort to do the actual audio stuff and then using something in the cheaper iPads for control purposes.
I'm definitely following with interest to see where iOS audio users are seeing the future.
The main thing is that you don’t get touch on any Mac (yet), and you can’t detach the keyboard and use the screen.
Hardware-wise, the iPad Pro is still way better. 120Hz screen, better FaceTime camera, FaceID, cellular connection, camera (and flash) on the back. And that’s the 2018 model (the 2020 is pretty much the same thing).
With the iPad Air now so close, I expect the Pro to get some impressive changes next year.
Went with Mac Mini M1 8gb. Hopefully 8gb is enough, the price was too good.
Please let us know how it goes !
Yes that would be interesting to know. I have an dell external touchscreen and my current core i5 macbook pro doesn't support the touch feature where my work windows 10 laptop does...
I’d like one but can’t justify it yet, currently have a 2018 iMac and iPad Pro that both still feel quick and I have a good workflow between them. For new tech like this I’d also prefer to wait until the second generation after any bugs are ironed out.
Using sidecar turns the iPad into a touch screen for your mac. It requires a Pencil too, but it works. Or you can use something like Edovia’s Screens app, which works with fingers.
The result is that touch isn’t a very good way to control the Mac, IMO.