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SunVox in the AU fx slot is very welcome....
As is the ADSR module.
Ctl2Note.... Nice addition... Can get some cool droney stuff going...
Long list... Minor details....
It’s all too much....
I’d like to see this ^ done on SunVox.
I’ve just updated it on my iPad 2. Works.
Owned this app for years and never dug in. The devs updates are always massive so its clearly something worth checking. Trackers always confused me but I will try anyways.
If it helps, considering trackers as vertical step sequencers with plenty of parameter control for each step might help. The basics, row = step number followed by commands (note, instrument, velocity, cutoff, resonance, propability, sample-offset, or just about any other parameter).
Pattern = Sequence which in Sunvox can be placed freely on the time line.
Every pattern created can control any module.
The simple examples are good starter points,
Consider also that the full Elektron line of stuff has a strong tracker heritage
Cheers!
+1
I think of trackers as step sequencers, too (and Elektron sequencing as tracking).
Just need to print out a crib sheet, as I can never seem to remember @wim's beloved hex codes:
You don't need to program to get benefits from the Sunvox sequencer, by recording midi into it. and then arranging and playing it back out. you can import midi too.
Atom or any other sequencer & Sunvox can go really well together especially when midi out arrives in the AU,
Atom is just a piano roll but SV is a modular daw, you could sequence the Atom clips from sunvox, record all the midi and automation from Atom jams into patterns in Sunvox and then arrange them on the timeline. etc, etc
The possibilities are really open when combined with other audio units in a host like AUM.
One 'Thing' I wish SunVox has was a 'Trim Pattern' which would be pretty handy for 'Trimming' freely recored mini-clips.
Sure it's not a biggie to select a bunch of events and copy them to the beginning of a pattern but still...
...a simple set start & end row would be a time saver
For those afraid of SunVox. Here's a simple lo-fi synthbass with a cheesy pattern...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvehi7z3nproxib/SynthBass.sunvox?dl=0
Wouldn't slice work for this? That's how I use it.
Ignore the tracker. Sunvox has "real-time" MIDI input so there's not even a need to import MIDI files. You can just skip the whole tracker thing entirely and just use any external MIDI sequencer to work with Sunvox' brilliant sound engine, and skip the completely-unsuitable-for-a-touchscreen (DISCLAIMER 1: not Sunvox' fault 🙂 DISCLAIMER 2: in my opinion) tracker interface.
Except then you miss out on the timeline which is the best feature of the app.
Well you can still arrange/copy/paste/duplicate recorded midi and arrange it on the timeline. I love recording midi into trackers. Before mozaic and friends it was one of the easier ways to dispatch notes across several channels too.
Didn't think of that, thanks
Just need to slice at start & end and delete the two extra patterns...
Anything in particular that's unique / better than in other sequencers?
For a start it's an AUv3, there aren't many timeline sequencers in this format with this much depth
Also I like being able to have an image for each pattern, it's a smart way to see an arrangement.
OK, that's a good point.
But isn't an actual preview of the data (what most sequencers do) more useful in most cases? 🤷♂️
It's useful sometimes yes, but I find (especially on a mobile device where the preview is quite small anyway), not always that useful. From a mobile gui view you can see where pattern repeats are more easily I think if you have distinct images.
It makes sense for a tracker more of course because a tiny preview of that isn't really useful at all.
As @Carnbot mentioned, the inline image drawing and colours lends themselves particularly well to a touch interface. That feature may not appeal to everyone but I enjoy the ability to view my song that way. Also the ability to quickly zoom in and out is great. But mostly I find the freeform placement of sequences a huge advantage and breath of fresh of air to work with compared to the rigid "lanes" idea of other DAWs. Besides sequences I use empty coloured blocks to define loops and sections, sometimes lyrics on the timeline as well. It all adds up to a score that you can mold and scribble on and bend to get the best out of your song. Sure I would like to be able scribble directly on the timeline but this timeline is the closest to that idea that I have worked with.
Yeah I definitely like the way you can be more creative with the timeline view (+ zooming in and out and being able to slide other bits of the gui out of the way).
I get visually bored of Daw timelines and this can make me lose interest, and usually prefer not working in them until I have to. But Sunvox makes this a bit more appealing by adding a personal touch.
Totally agree about DAW timelines.
Good point. I own xequence as well and also not dug into it much. Time for both i think as my workflow needs a change.
It wasn’t when I tried yesterday. Standalone won’t open. AUv3 isn’t even an option. I didn’t do this update though.
No problem. I just downloaded what I could. Most aren’t working. Some do. Ableton Link works. I got two apps to work reliably in Logic. I had to bypass Logics warning for every plugin advising me it will likely crash. Most did crash, but Zeeon and Volt so far have worked, though I didn’t do extensive testing.
A few iOS apps like SunVox download, try to open, bounce, and then ask if I want to send a crash report. Of course you can just get the Mac version and run that anyway for SunVox but that won’t run as a plugin.
Thank you for the information!
I hate trackers.
SunVox is a great technical achievement, but I still haven’t heard sounds programmed with it that rival the best-sounding synths. I haven’t been able to tell if it is because of limitations of the oscillators and filters or just that all the tracks I’ve heard were created by people with a different aesthetic.
Well, I've started making music with trackers around 1993 or so, but 1) they were the only means affordable to me for making music, and 2) I had an actual hardware keyboard 😉 that makes a huge difference.
Though after using a proper graphical pianoroll and arranger for the first time in the form of Cubase, I never looked back.
Combination of both most likely. Most SunVox tracks I have heard seem to favor the aesthetic represented by trackers from the days of the Commodore 64, both in timbral choices and style.
After all, chiptune music pretty much came out of C64 trackers. Thus, chiptune sounds and trackers are pretty much intertwined, seemingly for a lot of today's tracker users.
Chiptune and trackers don't have to be intertwined though. That's why some of the peeps who do get on with the tracker side of SunVox want to sequence external synths, not just stick to SunVox's internal synth options.
Personally, I found the tracker to be easy to learn to use. I never had any previous experience with trackers.. SunVox comes with a template project that is set up with bass, drums, and couple of types of synth tones all pre-patched. I just used a little onscreen keyboard that pops up to create patterns. I didn't even have to know any hex do it. I did follow along with some Solar Lune tutorials though.
As far as the sound quality goes, I'm find with the SunVox synths having their own sound. To the Moog fanatic, all synths sound like crap unless they're Moog. Same for the Obie fanatic and so on. I'm not that kind of person.
These are a couple of my favorite sunvox tracks. Source files available. Great artist.
I have an update. After the new SunVox update it is loading as AUv3 where before it wasn’t even listed. I have not been able to get a module connected to another module yet as in iOS you need to tap on part of the screen and then the other. So, this is not working here. If you have a project you can load it though.
I think the Magic Mouse scrolling is causing AUv3 to crash. I just disabled it and things are not crashing.