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Audulus 4 open beta

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  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @supadom said:
    Now is the moment when all the cable-mess phobes can be safely led towards Drambo. 😇

    From the fire into the frying pan...

  • supadomsupadom

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @supadom said:
    Now is the moment when all the cable-mess phobes can be safely led towards Drambo. 😇

    From the fire into the frying pan...

    Somewhat! 👹

  • OnfraySinOnfraySin
    edited February 2021

    For me, Audulus is more powerful, with more sonic palette, more easy to develop an idea and more "inspire" than anything else on iPad.

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    It's pretty DSP intensive lots of crackling. Hopefully they can turn it down on the resources it uses. MiRack still gets my vote.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Jumpercollins said:
    It's pretty DSP intensive lots of crackling. Hopefully they can turn it down on the resources it uses. MiRack still gets my vote.

    Doing what? How CPU intensive it is is highly dependent on the patch that you have loaded. Are you having problems with simple patches?

    If so, please report specifics to the developer. He won't know about performance issues without reports.

  • bcrichardsbcrichards


    In all honesty seems like an immensely powerful app. Excited to play with it once it’s AUv3

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @bcrichards said:

    In all honesty seems like an immensely powerful app. Excited to play with it once it’s AUv3

    The A4 beta is AUv3

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps
    edited February 2021

    @espiegel123 said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    Btw, the Audulus forum is a super-helpful place where experienced users help new users understand and use the app. Yes, the docs and tutorials aren’t what they could be (documenting such a beast is not easy) BUT the forum users are germerous and can usually get you up and running pretty quickly.

    If one isn’t into the low-level stuff, there was/I a huge library of modules people constructed that you just connect together and use out-of-the-box.

    The problem is it’s too difficult to even connect these modules together or then even operate them properly because the creators assume we’re on their level and they are very crappy labelers when packaging together their module into a “front-panel” operation.

    I can see why someone might not love the u.i., and I also think you are vastly overstating how difficult it is to make connections.

    For me (and many others), the u.i. shortcomings are compensated for by the possibilities it opens up. It really is pretty mind-blowing. There are things you can do without not possible with any other apps on iOS.

    I don’t know if I am overstating it, to be honest. I have an intermediate to average level of modular synth/signal flow knowledge, and if I can’t simply put together an oscillator with a filter and amp envelope that is controlled by external midi and get sound out of it, then I think there’s a problem. Especially considering this is no problem in any other modular app, INCLUDING Audulus 2 when I was a know-nothing beginner.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @oat_phipps said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    Btw, the Audulus forum is a super-helpful place where experienced users help new users understand and use the app. Yes, the docs and tutorials aren’t what they could be (documenting such a beast is not easy) BUT the forum users are germerous and can usually get you up and running pretty quickly.

    If one isn’t into the low-level stuff, there was/I a huge library of modules people constructed that you just connect together and use out-of-the-box.

    The problem is it’s too difficult to even connect these modules together or then even operate them properly because the creators assume we’re on their level and they are very crappy labelers when packaging together their module into a “front-panel” operation.

    I can see why someone might not love the u.i., and I also think you are vastly overstating how difficult it is to make connections.

    For me (and many others), the u.i. shortcomings are compensated for by the possibilities it opens up. It really is pretty mind-blowing. There are things you can do without not possible with any other apps on iOS.

    I don’t know if I am overstating it, to be honest. I have an intermediate to average level of modular synth/signal flow knowledge, and if I can’t simply put together an oscillator with a filter and amp envelope that is controlled by external midi and get sound out of it, then I think there’s a problem. Especially considering this is no problem in any other modular app, INCLUDING Audulus 2 when I was a know-nothing beginner.

    Lots of people don’t find it impossible. So, making it sound like it is so hard to make a connection seems not to be a Herculean task. But , as I said, I can see why some might not love how the u.i works.

  • I_sip_cuppsI_sip_cupps
    edited February 2021

    @oat_phipps said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    Btw, the Audulus forum is a super-helpful place where experienced users help new users understand and use the app. Yes, the docs and tutorials aren’t what they could be (documenting such a beast is not easy) BUT the forum users are germerous and can usually get you up and running pretty quickly.

    If one isn’t into the low-level stuff, there was/I a huge library of modules people constructed that you just connect together and use out-of-the-box.

    The problem is it’s too difficult to even connect these modules together or then even operate them properly because the creators assume we’re on their level and they are very crappy labelers when packaging together their module into a “front-panel” operation.

    I can see why someone might not love the u.i., and I also think you are vastly overstating how difficult it is to make connections.

    For me (and many others), the u.i. shortcomings are compensated for by the possibilities it opens up. It really is pretty mind-blowing. There are things you can do without not possible with any other apps on iOS.

    I don’t know if I am overstating it, to be honest. I have an intermediate to average level of modular synth/signal flow knowledge, and if I can’t simply put together an oscillator with a filter and amp envelope that is controlled by external midi and get sound out of it, then I think there’s a problem. Especially considering this is no problem in any other modular app, INCLUDING Audulus 2 when I was a know-nothing beginner.

    The UI doesnt click for you which is understandable, Audulus has always clicked with me for whatever reason even moreso than miRack. Dont get me wrong, i enjoy both but Audulus has always had a special place in my repertoire. Maybe its because it feels more experimental and i swing that way with everything.

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps
    edited February 2021

    I agree with different strokes, and Audulus definitely isn’t for me anymore. Just kinda shocked it’s still so difficult for me, because like I said, I got along with A2 just fine.

  • OnfraySinOnfraySin

    @oat_phipps said:
    I agree with different strokes, and Audulus definitely isn’t for me anymore. Just kinda shocked it’s still so difficult for me, because like I said, I got along with A2 just fine.

    It's a lot easier Audulus than Rambo.

    In Audulus, you're "seeing" what is going on. All the flow, all the signal.

  • Michael_R_GrantMichael_R_Grant

    @OnfraySin said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I agree with different strokes, and Audulus definitely isn’t for me anymore. Just kinda shocked it’s still so difficult for me, because like I said, I got along with A2 just fine.

    It's a lot easier Audulus than Rambo.

    In Audulus, you're "seeing" what is going on. All the flow, all the signal.

    Maybe easier to get a synth out of Audulus than Rambo, but certainly not Drambo.

  • OnfraySinOnfraySin

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @OnfraySin said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I agree with different strokes, and Audulus definitely isn’t for me anymore. Just kinda shocked it’s still so difficult for me, because like I said, I got along with A2 just fine.

    It's a lot easier Audulus than Rambo.

    In Audulus, you're "seeing" what is going on. All the flow, all the signal.

    Maybe easier to get a synth out of Audulus than Rambo, but certainly not Drambo.

    Hehehehe.

    I understand, but no. For me, it's a lot easier, A LOT easier understand Audulus. And I can do what I have in mind more quickly and with more powerful modulation on Audulus.

    I use Drambo a lot, but for what I need modular, Audulus is my go.

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  • TonalityAppTonalityApp

    @Max23 said:
    It’s not musical at all, it’s a total fail.

    You’re just trying to be inflammatory... right?

    Looking forward to the newest iteration of Audulus.

  • OnfraySinOnfraySin
    edited February 2021

    @Max23 said:

    I'm not musical at all, I'm a total fail.

    Totally agree

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  • ciancian

    @Max23 said:

    If I would be interested in writing a doctoral thesis in low level DSP I would use audulus. ;) ^^
    It’s not musical at all, it’s a total fail.

    "It's not musical at all for me, it's a total fail for me".

    There, fixed it for you.

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  • TonalityAppTonalityApp

    @cian said:

    @Max23 said:

    If I would be interested in writing a doctoral thesis in low level DSP I would use audulus. ;) ^^
    It’s not musical at all, it’s a total fail.

    "It's not musical at all for me, it's a total fail for me".

    There, fixed it for you.

    Exactly. I get that it's not for everyone, but Audulus definitely has its merits. To sweepingly call it a total fail is to ignore a lot of value, and I can't see any reason to do that other than to be inflammatory and derogatory.

    @Max23 Apologies if I'm reading too much into this.

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  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    Max is right. And when people make statements, can't you automatically infer that they're stating their opinion? Jesus, you have to qualify everything these days. "My god, he's firm in his opinion! Call the dogs!"

    Sorry max, I know you can take care of this yourself, I just had to vent my frustrations imo.

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    @cian said:

    @Max23 said:

    If I would be interested in writing a doctoral thesis in low level DSP I would use audulus. ;) ^^
    It’s not musical at all, it’s a total fail.

    "It's not musical at all for me, it's a total fail for me".

    There, fixed it for you.

    The "for me" is already there, implicit. Duh.

  • ciancian

    @oat_phipps said:
    Max is right. And when people make statements, can't you automatically infer that they're stating their opinion? Jesus, you have to qualify everything these days. "My god, he's firm in his opinion! Call the dogs!"

    I've been on the internet 25+ years and I can't say that I've noticed a change.

    Either communicate in an inflammatory style and accept the consequences, or learn how to communicate without pissing people off.

    I've never been a huge fan of people who behave like an asshole online then complain when people treat them like one. Own your behavior, or change it.

  • Philandering_BastardPhilandering_Bastard

    Audulus 4 can’t be much judging by this online bitchfest over nothing.

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps
    edited February 2021

    @cian said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    Max is right. And when people make statements, can't you automatically infer that they're stating their opinion? Jesus, you have to qualify everything these days. "My god, he's firm in his opinion! Call the dogs!"

    I've been on the internet 25+ years and I can't say that I've noticed a change.

    Either communicate in an inflammatory style and accept the consequences, or learn how to communicate without pissing people off.

    I've never been a huge fan of people who behave like an asshole online then complain when people treat them like one. Own your behavior, or change it.

    Or how about don’t complain then treat people like they’re assholes and condescend to tell them how to communicate. Funny how the flipside is more valid: it uses less words and doesn’t derail anything with petty stuff. You are the one who created confrontation.

    I’ll be on my hamster wheel

  • PaulinkoPaulinko

    @Philandering_Bastard said:
    Audulus 4 can’t be much judging by this online bitchfest over nothing.

    I think this forum has long passed the point where we can judge the objective merits of something based upon the level of animosity going on in a thread let alone on something as subjective as what apps people like.

    Insisting upon people sharing your likes or dislikes seems like a waste of time.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Philandering_Bastard said:
    Audulus 4 can’t be much judging by this online bitchfest over nothing.

    ?????

    Are you saying that because some people don't like it, there must not be much to Audulus -- or are you being facetious.

    For those that feel the need to compare everything to Drambo. Drambo is excellent AND so is Audulus -- while there is some overlap -- there are also some big differences.

    Does everyone need Audulus? No

    One can design a lot of things in Audulus that you either couldn't do in Drambo or would be really cumbersome because Audulus will let you package your creation to expose just those controls of interest.

    I look forward to using them together.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Max23 said:

    @OnfraySin said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @OnfraySin said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I agree with different strokes, and Audulus definitely isn’t for me anymore. Just kinda shocked it’s still so difficult for me, because like I said, I got along with A2 just fine.

    It's a lot easier Audulus than Rambo.

    In Audulus, you're "seeing" what is going on. All the flow, all the signal.

    Maybe easier to get a synth out of Audulus than Rambo, but certainly not Drambo.

    Hehehehe.

    I understand, but no. For me, it's a lot easier, A LOT easier understand Audulus. And I can do what I have in mind more quickly and with more powerful modulation on Audulus.

    I use Drambo a lot, but for what I need modular, Audulus is my go.

    I get something basic running and ready to play or sequence a musical idea in 5 seconds with Drambo. More complex things also go very quick.

    If I would be interested in writing a doctoral thesis in low level DSP I would use audulus. ;) ^^
    It’s not musical at all, it’s a total fail.

    It is a total fail ===>>>> TO YOU

    It is not musical ======>>>>>> TO YOU

    For many, it is a great app. Stating your opinion as if it is fact is not "telling it like it is", imo.

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