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Audulus 4 open beta

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  • edited February 2021
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  • @tja said:
    Audulus 4 is not a new App?
    It replaces Audulus 3 and mangles with the patches?

    Then I will probably not jump on the beta

    ????

    It is a new app

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  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Philandering_Bastard said:
    Audulus 4 can’t be much judging by this online bitchfest over nothing.

    ?????

    Are you saying that because some people don't like it, there must not be much to Audulus -- or are you being facetious.

    For those that feel the need to compare everything to Drambo. Drambo is excellent AND so is Audulus -- while there is some overlap -- there are also some big differences.

    Does everyone need Audulus? No

    One can design a lot of things in Audulus that you either couldn't do in Drambo or would be really cumbersome because Audulus will let you package your creation to expose just those controls of interest.

    I look forward to using them together.

    Not my point. I have no idea about the quality or lack thereof of Audulus. Seeing that no one of Beta testers the talks about any features leads me to the conclusion that there isn’t much to talk about.

  • @Philandering_Bastard said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Philandering_Bastard said:
    Audulus 4 can’t be much judging by this online bitchfest over nothing.

    ?????

    Are you saying that because some people don't like it, there must not be much to Audulus -- or are you being facetious.

    For those that feel the need to compare everything to Drambo. Drambo is excellent AND so is Audulus -- while there is some overlap -- there are also some big differences.

    Does everyone need Audulus? No

    One can design a lot of things in Audulus that you either couldn't do in Drambo or would be really cumbersome because Audulus will let you package your creation to expose just those controls of interest.

    I look forward to using them together.

    Not my point. I have no idea about the quality or lack thereof of Audulus. Seeing that no one of Beta testers the talks about any features leads me to the conclusion that there isn’t much to talk about.

    I don't think you can draw any conclusions about Audulus 4 from this thread and the participation or lack of it from Audulus beta testers. It is not a huge beta. The active beta testers are mostly over on a discord chat.

    This is a massive rewrite both with many new components, MIDI out nodes, and a lot of small but significant changes that won't mean much to people that are familiar with Audulus.

  • I’m looking forward to messing with this chaotic
    app

  • Curious about the processing hit...

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    Curious about the processing hit...

    The developer has said that he thinks when it is finished that it should be similar to Audulus 3.

  • edited February 2021

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Max23 said:

    @OnfraySin said:

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @OnfraySin said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    I agree with different strokes, and Audulus definitely isn’t for me anymore. Just kinda shocked it’s still so difficult for me, because like I said, I got along with A2 just fine.

    It's a lot easier Audulus than Rambo.

    In Audulus, you're "seeing" what is going on. All the flow, all the signal.

    Maybe easier to get a synth out of Audulus than Rambo, but certainly not Drambo.

    Hehehehe.

    I understand, but no. For me, it's a lot easier, A LOT easier understand Audulus. And I can do what I have in mind more quickly and with more powerful modulation on Audulus.

    I use Drambo a lot, but for what I need modular, Audulus is my go.

    I get something basic running and ready to play or sequence a musical idea in 5 seconds with Drambo. More complex things also go very quick.

    If I would be interested in writing a doctoral thesis in low level DSP I would use audulus. ;) ^^
    It’s not musical at all, it’s a total fail.

    It is a total fail ===>>>> TO YOU

    It is not musical ======>>>>>> TO YOU

    For many, it is a great app. Stating your opinion as if it is fact is not "telling it like it is", imo.

    That's how you state opinions. Because you believe in them.

    Isn't it amusing that this entire rigamarole wouldn't have taken place if he had said "Audulus rules!". I find that amusing, and telling.

  • @oat_phipps said:

    Or how about don’t complain then treat people like they’re assholes and condescend to tell them how to communicate. Funny how the flipside is more valid: it uses less words and doesn’t derail anything with petty stuff. You are the one who created confrontation.

    Pretty sure it was Max who created the confrontation. For the record I didn't have any problem with what you said about Audulus. It isn't for you. Ok cool. Not sure if Audulus 4 will be something I get either. But if people get something out of it I'm not going to argue with them that they're wrong.

  • @cian said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    Or how about don’t complain then treat people like they’re assholes and condescend to tell them how to communicate. Funny how the flipside is more valid: it uses less words and doesn’t derail anything with petty stuff. You are the one who created confrontation.

    Pretty sure it was Max who created the confrontation. For the record I didn't have any problem with what you said about Audulus. It isn't for you. Ok cool. Not sure if Audulus 4 will be something I get either. But if people get something out of it I'm not going to argue with them that they're wrong.

    Yep. Max came out intending to be inflammatory. Making a statement that was overly crass.

  • edited February 2021

    My first impressions of Audulus 4 are great. I ended up updating to IOS14 to try it. Was a bit lost when I first opened the app, but no more than 3 minutes into beginner guide to Audulus 3.5 and I was up and patching in no time. DSP is at about 23% for me on an old iPad Pro. I can see why though, you're paying for those smooth animations and optional GUI elements (which ultimately allow you to visually design the instrument of your mind's eye).

    It's different from D and Mi for sure. But there's enough room for all these modular apps - they each excel in different areas. Did you know you can't build a optimally correct resonant phaser in Drambo or miRack? Well Audulus can. Just that one differentiating capability is proof enough that all modular apps can coexist peacefully.

    This is a program that I can see will be well worth the learning curve.. well, if deep diving and patching is something you enjoy. If you're a casual synth enthusiast, or a player/composer, probably not so much.

  • I found Audulus 3 a lot easier to use than 2. The main reason I don't use Audulus 3 more is that the interconnectivity options weren't great, and modular tweaking isn't really my style.

  • @aleyas said:
    This is a program that I can see will be well worth the learning curve.. well, if deep diving and patching is something you enjoy. If you're a casual synth enthusiast, or a player/composer, probably not so much.

    It's true that Audulus excels as a modular environment, you can even build your own modules from scratch, but you're not obliged to use it this way. I'm an Audulus user since version 1 and I've never used it as a modular. I use it to make effects or instruments. On my last instrument there's no patching whatsoever to make. Just plug a keyboard in and make music.

  • edited February 2021

    @aleyas said:
    My first impressions of Audulus 4 are great. I ended up updating to IOS14 to try it. Was a bit lost when I first opened the app, but no more than 3 minutes into beginner guide to Audulus 3.5 and I was up and patching in no time. DSP is at about 23% for me on an old iPad Pro. I can see why though, you're paying for those smooth animations and optional GUI elements (which ultimately allow you to visually design the instrument of your mind's eye).

    It's different from D and Mi for sure. But there's enough room for all these modular apps - they each excel in different areas. Did you know you can't build a optimally correct resonant phaser in Drambo or miRack? Well Audulus can. Just that one differentiating capability is proof enough that all modular apps can coexist peacefully.

    This is a program that I can see will be well worth the learning curve.. well, if deep diving and patching is something you enjoy. If you're a casual synth enthusiast, or a player/composer, probably not so much.

    The Audulus 4 beta is far from being optimized or finished at this point so I don’t believe its current performance/efficiency level will be at all similar to the final release version.

    With the MIDI out capability and sequencing options in Audulus 4, the app could be a very capable tool for musicians who are into ambient/generative music. Creative sequencing of this sort is much easier to master than many synthesis methods.

  • @Paulinko said:

    @aleyas said:
    My first impressions of Audulus 4 are great. I ended up updating to IOS14 to try it. Was a bit lost when I first opened the app, but no more than 3 minutes into beginner guide to Audulus 3.5 and I was up and patching in no time. DSP is at about 23% for me on an old iPad Pro. I can see why though, you're paying for those smooth animations and optional GUI elements (which ultimately allow you to visually design the instrument of your mind's eye).

    It's different from D and Mi for sure. But there's enough room for all these modular apps - they each excel in different areas. Did you know you can't build a optimally correct resonant phaser in Drambo or miRack? Well Audulus can. Just that one differentiating capability is proof enough that all modular apps can coexist peacefully.

    This is a program that I can see will be well worth the learning curve.. well, if deep diving and patching is something you enjoy. If you're a casual synth enthusiast, or a player/composer, probably not so much.

    With the MIDI out capability and sequencing options in Audulus 4, the app could be a very capable tool for musicians who are into ambient/generative music. Creative sequencing of this sort is much easier to master than many synthesis methods.

    Indeed, generative composing is particularly well suited to modular environments, whether it's Bitwig Grid, miRack/VCV, Drambo, or Audulus. If generative or deterministic composition or programming is your thing, these apps can hardly be topped. That said, even though generative/ambient/techno are strengths of modular programming, if someones doesn't gel with that workflow, they're hardly going to enjoy the process. It's certainly powerful, but the workflow and pre-production patching isn't for everyone.

    For folks that really want to create their own custom modules, Audulus just can't be topped, not even by the other modular apps mentioned. This is one of its merits, and why it has drawn such a dedicated user base. I for one can't wait to learn more about programming custom modules - though it looks like it's going to be a lot of work, and a high initial learning curve.

  • I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

  • Trying the beta. I don’t even know where to start. Might have to stick this on the shelf with Wotja until I have the time to sit down and watch some tutorials and learn how to use these apps.

  • @u0421793 said:
    I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

    You don't need a Mac to change a file suffix. Audioshare and Documents by Readdle will let you do it.

    Re the edit popup: click the lock icon so that you aren't in edit mode. You also need to be zoomed in enough that controls are active.

  • @Intrepolicious said:
    Trying the beta. I don’t even know where to start. Might have to stick this on the shelf with Wotja until I have the time to sit down and watch some tutorials and learn how to use these apps.

    This tutorial got me up and patching within a few minutes. One thing to note is that is that at the bottom where it says 'util, math, meter, midi, etc' and the icons above them.. well the icons aren't buttons, they are core modules that you drag onto the canvas. Those aren't used much, at least for beginners / basic stuff.

    To add a module, just tap the canvas and click 'add' to view the library. The categories are mostly the same as the desktop demo, though you might need to use a different VCA or oscillator than he's using.

  • @aleyas said:

    @Intrepolicious said:
    Trying the beta. I don’t even know where to start. Might have to stick this on the shelf with Wotja until I have the time to sit down and watch some tutorials and learn how to use these apps.

    This tutorial got me up and patching within a few minutes. One thing to note is that is that at the bottom where it says 'util, math, meter, midi, etc' and the icons above them.. well the icons aren't buttons, they are core modules that you drag onto the canvas. Those aren't used much, at least for beginners / basic stuff.

    To add a module, just tap the canvas and click 'add' to view the library. The categories are mostly the same as the desktop demo, though you might need to use a different VCA or oscillator than he's using.

    Thanks!

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

    You don't need a Mac to change a file suffix. Audioshare and Documents by Readdle will let you do it.

    Re the edit popup: click the lock icon so that you aren't in edit mode. You also need to be zoomed in enough that controls are active.

    Ah, the zoomed in thing. I forgot. Forget it then, if I’m not allowed to see the whole Subharmonicon patch at once on the iPad screen then never mind. That’s surely a sign that I have to buy the real thing. So expensive though.

  • @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

    You don't need a Mac to change a file suffix. Audioshare and Documents by Readdle will let you do it.

    Re the edit popup: click the lock icon so that you aren't in edit mode. You also need to be zoomed in enough that controls are active.

    Ah, the zoomed in thing. I forgot. Forget it then, if I’m not allowed to see the whole Subharmonicon patch at once on the iPad screen then never mind. That’s surely a sign that I have to buy the real thing. So expensive though.

    ???

    You can see the whole patch.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

    You don't need a Mac to change a file suffix. Audioshare and Documents by Readdle will let you do it.

    Re the edit popup: click the lock icon so that you aren't in edit mode. You also need to be zoomed in enough that controls are active.

    Ah, the zoomed in thing. I forgot. Forget it then, if I’m not allowed to see the whole Subharmonicon patch at once on the iPad screen then never mind. That’s surely a sign that I have to buy the real thing. So expensive though.

    ???

    You can see the whole patch.

    Yes, but then I can’t use it

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

    You don't need a Mac to change a file suffix. Audioshare and Documents by Readdle will let you do it.

    Re the edit popup: click the lock icon so that you aren't in edit mode. You also need to be zoomed in enough that controls are active.

    Ah, the zoomed in thing. I forgot. Forget it then, if I’m not allowed to see the whole Subharmonicon patch at once on the iPad screen then never mind. That’s surely a sign that I have to buy the real thing. So expensive though.

    ???

    You can see the whole patch.

    You have to zoom in slightly in that patch to activate the button. you can scroll while zoomed in or zoom out to see everything and zoom back in to target the controls you want to trigger.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

    You don't need a Mac to change a file suffix. Audioshare and Documents by Readdle will let you do it.

    Re the edit popup: click the lock icon so that you aren't in edit mode. You also need to be zoomed in enough that controls are active.

    Ah, the zoomed in thing. I forgot. Forget it then, if I’m not allowed to see the whole Subharmonicon patch at once on the iPad screen then never mind. That’s surely a sign that I have to buy the real thing. So expensive though.

    ???

    You can see the whole patch.

    You have to zoom in slightly in that patch to activate the button. you can scroll while zoomed in or zoom out to see everything and zoom back in to target the controls you want to trigger.

    On a 9.7 inch screen, while zoomed to the level to use the u.i, you can see all but the two rightmost columns at once. Scrolling to the, is easy enough.

    And, of course, you could go in and edit the patch to move the controls so that all are visible and touchable in your screen.

  • @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

    You don't need a Mac to change a file suffix. Audioshare and Documents by Readdle will let you do it.

    Re the edit popup: click the lock icon so that you aren't in edit mode. You also need to be zoomed in enough that controls are active.

    Ah, the zoomed in thing. I forgot. Forget it then, if I’m not allowed to see the whole Subharmonicon patch at once on the iPad screen then never mind. That’s surely a sign that I have to buy the real thing. So expensive though.

    ???

    You can see the whole patch.

    Yes, but then I can’t use it

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

    You don't need a Mac to change a file suffix. Audioshare and Documents by Readdle will let you do it.

    Re the edit popup: click the lock icon so that you aren't in edit mode. You also need to be zoomed in enough that controls are active.

    Ah, the zoomed in thing. I forgot. Forget it then, if I’m not allowed to see the whole Subharmonicon patch at once on the iPad screen then never mind. That’s surely a sign that I have to buy the real thing. So expensive though.

    ???

    You can see the whole patch.

    Yes, but then I can’t use it

    That’s interesting, the patch you have looks quite different to the one I found

    https://forum.audulus.com/t/another-moog-subharmonicon/2701

  • @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

    You don't need a Mac to change a file suffix. Audioshare and Documents by Readdle will let you do it.

    Re the edit popup: click the lock icon so that you aren't in edit mode. You also need to be zoomed in enough that controls are active.

    Ah, the zoomed in thing. I forgot. Forget it then, if I’m not allowed to see the whole Subharmonicon patch at once on the iPad screen then never mind. That’s surely a sign that I have to buy the real thing. So expensive though.

    ???

    You can see the whole patch.

    Yes, but then I can’t use it

    That’s interesting, the patch you have looks quite different to the one I found

    https://forum.audulus.com/t/another-moog-subharmonicon/2701

    I guess many people have posted examples. The one I I opened was one on the mega-library download...basically has everything ever posted to the old forum.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I just redownloaded Audulus 3 because it occurred to me that someone must’ve done a Subharmonicon emulation on it (there are!) and after a ridiculous faff of downloading it and it not going into Audulus 3 because it comes down as a .txt and there’s no way round this on the iPad (had to edit it on the Mac), I now can’t remember the fucking obtuse irritating say the magic word secret handshake way of stopping the ridiculous UI from simply saying Cut|Copy|etc whenever I try to press the button on the Subharmonicon I now have on the ipad. So fucking irritating, this app. That’s why I dumped it. All I want to do is press a button on the synth.

    You don't need a Mac to change a file suffix. Audioshare and Documents by Readdle will let you do it.

    Re the edit popup: click the lock icon so that you aren't in edit mode. You also need to be zoomed in enough that controls are active.

    Ah, the zoomed in thing. I forgot. Forget it then, if I’m not allowed to see the whole Subharmonicon patch at once on the iPad screen then never mind. That’s surely a sign that I have to buy the real thing. So expensive though.

    ???

    You can see the whole patch.

    Yes, but then I can’t use it

    That’s interesting, the patch you have looks quite different to the one I found

    https://forum.audulus.com/t/another-moog-subharmonicon/2701

    I guess many people have posted examples. The one I I opened was one on the mega-library download...basically has everything ever posted to the old forum.

    Try the one I linked and see if it’s better. Of course it’d be a shame if it’s so good I don’t need to buy one.

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