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The Greenwood Massacre Centennial
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I can’t speak for anyone else, but I personally played absolutely no part in the problems of the past.
LL, I don’t believe I suggested that everyone in the system is racist. However, if one refers to a common usage definition of “systemic racism” (Cambridge English Dictionary online), the definition is: “policies and practices that exist throughout a whole society or organization, and that result in and support a continued unfair advantage to some people and unfair or harmful treatment of others based on race”
Source: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/systemic-racism
If one accepts that particular Cambridge Dictionary definition, then the biggest deliberate source of systemic racism in the US would be policies which have been enacted by the political Left since their specific policies favor racial groups, instead of treating individuals equally without regard to skin color.
Regarding hate crimes, I’ve been informed by the media these have largely been occurring in New York and Los Angeles and that’s based on the assumption that the individual crimes reported were due specifically to hate (however that is defined in a legal sense) and not due to mental illness or some other factor. The FBI only has records up to 2019, so unfortunately we are left to rely on the news on this matter. I’m not a member of Antifa or any other hate group, so I haven’t seen this for myself.
In one of your comments, you seem to be asking if I’ve ever faced discrimination. Yes, in fact I have. However, I ignored or laughed it off. It didn’t define my existence. If I was told every day of my life I was no better than anyone else because of my skin color, I’d probably change political parties.
The question about the Holocaust is somewhat personal to me because I have some family members (via marriage of a near relative) who are Jewish. The deliberate and hateful murder of hundreds of thousands of people is significant. The deliberate and hateful murder of one person is significant. (And as an aside, there was no deliberate mass murder of Americans by other Americans through actions or inaction because of COVID. There has been a lot of sloppiness and misinformation however, especially from unelected authorities at WHO and CDC.)
That wasn't the question. You said something (see quoted passage) that sounded like you questioned the existence of systemic racism. Rather than jump to conclusions, I asked a clarifying question.
The only evidence supporting claims of systemic racism today lie within the policies and proposals of the political Left. Racism is rooted in collectivism, which is philosophically opposed to individualism. When people respect others as individuals, there is no room for racism.
(Duplicate post)
Neum wrote: "The question about the Holocaust is somewhat personal to me because I have some family members (via marriage of a near relative) who are Jewish. The deliberate and hateful murder of hundreds of thousands of people is significant."
Can you clarify?
Are you suggesting the Holocaust involved the murders of only hundreds of thousands?
Forgive me for saying this, but you seem absolutely determined to deliberately misinterpret everything I write so you can express some new outrage. If you take the time to carefully re-read @LinearLineman’s original post, my response was to his specific comment.
No. I am giving you a chance to clarify your remarks so as to avoid misinterpreting your remarks. Can you clarify what you meant?
@NeuM, forgive me but I am pretty confused at this point. Not sure what you are driving at really. Are you saying
Also, if you could directly answer my question to you..
It seems rather unlikely that any discussion or POV can justify even a small percentage of the actual hate crimes committed in the US. Exactly what would make you feel at peace with this issue? On a feeling level, what is it that upsets you about many people... millions in fact, that have come to the conclusion, either by personal experience, the injury or death of a family or community member, the burning of a church with people in it, seeing murder(s) on tv, extensive reading and evaluation, exploitation, unequal education, hate talk online, etc, that not all Americans are treated equally.
What would it mean if you acknowledged that, discrimination, violence and hatred is a reality millions live with? I am not baiting you. I just want to understand the underpinnings of your conclusions. Is it intellectual? Do you actually believe that these injustices are not happening? It is not hard to find solid information to the contrary.
Look at my post (above) again, I added a clarifying sentence.
Guys, over a century of western history has taught us that fascists and their apologists never have and never will argue in good faith about anything (and are woefully unequipped to do so even if they were so-inclined). They weaponize your good faith and reason and turn it against you so that you waste your time and energy punching their strawmen instead of... well, fascists.
Sorry, the part I quoted is unchanged.
It still says "The question about the Holocaust is somewhat personal to me because I have some family members (via marriage of a near relative) who are Jewish. The deliberate and hateful murder of hundreds of thousands of people is significant."
Your mention of "hundreds of thousands" confuses me. Can you simply clarify by saying how many people you think died in the Holocaust more or less? It isn't a gotcha question.
I’m not the final arbiter of what is or is not “racist”, especially if a person “feels” they’ve been attacked because of some racial animus, then that is their reality. One cannot reason with feelings. If a person’s identity is tied to race and not their individual worth because of what they’ve been taught or told their whole life, that’s a big hurdle. It is not an insurmountable hurdle.
I cannot say. That is not in my purview. The word “oppressed” is a loaded word that could mean almost anything depending on your individual point of view.
Collectivism is the foundation of Left philosophy and political thought. When a person rejects the Collectivist (“identitarian”) worldview, a person is free to see others as individuals. When one sees others as individuals, the baggage of “race” is of no use to any individual.
Yes? No? It’s a very broad question. Maybe if you provided something more specific from existing policy?
Regarding the rest of your post, my opinions on this are not the larger issue. The larger issue is political and about power and influence. The issues the media and politically motivated people focus on are often divorced from reality to the point of absurdity. What the media and the politically motivated want are to serve their interests first and they seem willing to destroy an entire country to do that these days.
You must have missed LinearLinemans post? Did you?
Since you’ve somehow managed to avoid seeking it out twice now, I’ll quote his exact comment in full. Read:
“This seems like a reasonable approach to me... take the promoted horrors of a particular injustice and divide by ten. If 600,000 Jews died in the Holocaust would it be insignificant? (Coincidentally the number of COVID deaths in the US after 16 months)”
That is his quote. Are you able to see the connecting tissue between his comment and my response? If you cannot, I have nothing more to offer you.
I hardly think that’s true. I can speak from personal experience in the South and say that there is a lot of racism here that originates in decidedly right-leaning people, who collectively congratulate each other on reinforcing racist stereotypes and denigrating attempts at recognizing their prejudices for what they are.
I’m really not sure why you think that racism only exists because of “policies and proposals of the political Left.” Ingratiate yourself in any social manner with a variety of people in the South and after a while you will be enlightened by a few into beliefs that almost no one would think to describe as anything other than “white supremacy.”
What do you mean by “the South”? All of the Southern US? One State? One city? A few cities? Are you assuming every city is the same based on your personal experience? I’ve never known people to uniformly agree on anything, even people on the same “team”. I’m just asking for clarification.
Good morning all.
I see everyone is still in fine mettle.
What's new?
Oh, nothing.
@NeuM , I think I understand where you are coming from. I will be honest with you from my perspective, tho I regret hurting your feelings or angering you. In surrounding yourself with ideological shibboleths you cut yourself off from any but those who share your views. Which, IMO,
leaves you in the poor company of those who replace true feelings of compassion and brotherhood with an inflexible dialectic. It becomes an argument for argument’s sake with no real room for connection.
From some of the things you say, I believe you are acting mostly in good faith. What jars me is the concretion of judgements with catch all phrases and “complex” political theory. You say you believe in the individual, yet for me,, on a feeling level, I don’t get real heart involvement with the pain of other human beings. It is hard for me, too. My psychologist exwife gf recently placed me on the Asperger’s spectrum. At first I rebelled at this characterization, but the more I thought about it the more I can see it. Something in me shields me from the pain of the world.
But I am working on it... like the man who wore a compassionate mask for so long that he became compassionate underneath instead of detached.
I imagine you will think me way off base with this and presumptuous. I do not expect to change your perspective. The acknowledgment of who we really are to ourselves is perhaps the most difficult task before us. Maybe you have, indeed, had that confrontation. But one thing for sure... I trust my feeling, and my feelings about other people.
@LinearLineman, I for one miss that para that you deleted. I mean, it should not be controversial to suggest that racist events of the past may well have something in common with present efforts to restrict the voting rights of typically the same kind of people who were victims of those past events.
On another (unrelated) note, words matter. For an example from this thread, see calling Tulsa a "terrible sounding event" instead of a terrible event, which is a world of difference.
Hi @ervin. I just thought, as @NeuM pointed out, that I was making the same error Marjorie Taylor Greene was making when she conflated mask wearing with the Holocaust... tho not, of course, to that absurd degree. Blacks are not being firebombed in Texas as a result of attempted legislation that ultimately robs everyone of their free participation in a democratic process, but I do believe that democracy is in peril for all of us... it’s just that the comparison distracted from a very clear remembrance of an undeniable truth.
That video seemed to make a false equivalence between the events in Tulsa 100 years ago and BLM. Then quibbled over the number of deaths.
What’s undeniable is that an entire neighbourhood was burned down. Thousands of innocent people were subjected to an act of collective punishment relating to events they had nothing to do with, just because they happened to be black.
You can’t equate that with BLM in any way. BLM didn’t target white residential neighbourhoods for collective reprisals aimed at innocent people. The whole argument is based on false equivalence.
Too true. I was back in the 90’s as a Brit visiting the National War Museum in Singapore and after my visit was greeted outside by 2 Japanese girls who were extremely upset. They fell into my arms and the arms of others who would listen. Crying and apologising to all. They said they had no idea of what had happened and how the Japanese during the war had treated other nation especially Singapore. The version of history taught in schools completely different to the version in the west. I told them that they were not responsible for what happened or indeed what version they were taught. But to realise what ever we are told ithrough history has a political stance based upon which country you come from.
Fair enough. You appear to be wiser and more noble than I am.
A horrible event in a country that continues to have these issues. We do live on a world full of hate and division based on the colour of skin, religion, class etc. I grew up in a country divided with bombs and shootings a regular thing. The bullets have stopped but the hate remains.
I know it's mentioned in this thread about having a linking relation that makes it more personal but I'm a human and feel every atrocity and abuse of power is kinda personal
Agreed.
Sorry to hear that you grew up in such an environment.
Good to hear that the bullets have stopped.
Hopefully the hate will one day go as well.
Agreed.
Southern US in general (and other states nearby). Apologies to any states in the South where this is not true, but I can say I’ve experienced this in at least one place in VA, NC, SC, GA, TN, and FL.
OK, but regarding that one place - what do you mean by "one place"? A city? A village? And which street was it exactly? Are you assuming that every other street in that place is the same, based on your personal experience? I've never known people to uniformly agree on anything, even people living in the same street. I'm just asking for clarification. 🤷
[Next up: which house exactly?
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Based on the same logic, this can be played ad infinitum, and often is. But ultimately, it's just a version of the "not all men" or "not all white people" argument.
Depends which state, as the time I have spent in each one has varied. My point was to refute the original statement that implied that racism only existed in politically left-leaning people, but that has absolutely not been my experience.
For example - I had it pointed out to me by more than one person that there is a certain street in the southern end of Charlotte, NC close to the SC line that is the address of a high ranking KKK member, and it can be seen while driving on I-77. I took it with a grain is salt until I saw it - high fences with razor wire, confederate flags flown high alongside a blood drop cross. I wouldn’t have thought that anyone would disagree that the KKK represents racism. For the past 4+ years a large Trump flag has also been flown there. To me that is an association between racism and right-wing politics.
In SC a group of us once stopped at a rural gas station (maybe 15 years ago) with a large barn behind it. I went in with a friend who is mixed race, and the guy at the counter was unfriendly and borderline angry. We asked to use the bathrooms and were directed through a door leading into the connected barn. The barn was a pool hall and bar, and after I used the bathroom and was waiting for my friend I started looking at the framed photos on the walls. There was Klan imagery all over them, and carved into the walls next to some of them were various racist comments. Included among the photos were various photos of people I didn’t know with various Republican presidents going back to Reagan. Again, I think a right-leaning connection with racism.
More recently, just various dialog with various individuals who have expressed racism in various forms, who have also been clear about their political leaning. On MLK Day a few years ago: “They should have shot 4 more of the black c***s and we could have had a whole week off.” My state trooper ex-neighbor and his wife during construction in our neighborhood: “I don’t want those dirty Mexicans in the neighborhood looking at my daughter while she waits for the school bus.”
Etc.
Gentlemen
Racism exists and it is global problem. But caucasians aren’t the only racists. Every ethnic group is guilty.
https://abc7.com/asian-attack-assault-american-hate-crime-bias/10576672/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/11/15/rick-moranis-assault-suspect-arrested-after-unprovoked-attack-star/6302436002/
https://mobile.twitter.com/yuhline/status/1399502974272131078
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/1819258/shocking-video-black-new-yorkers-explain-why-they-are-attacking-jews.html
And as far as what happened in Tulsa only the people that were there know what really happened because of misinformation and disinformation and yes that happens. Even today the press only covers what fits into its narrative.
Racism is part of the human condition.