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šŸŽø The big GeoShred customer survey šŸŽø

Some of us have received a link from @moForte to a google doc survey about the future of GeoShred : mostly, what next features we would like to see.
So this is the place to discuss amongst Geoshreders !

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  • edited August 2021

    Answered that survey. The choices indicated to me they are listening, especially since modeled guitars designed after famous brand names was apparently a top request and itā€™s one of my top feature requests as well.

  • Answered. Told them Iā€™d like to get more guitars and more parameters to automate. šŸ˜‚

  • i did the survey. hoping some good updates come out of it!

  • Iā€™m intrigued by this hardware version ideaā€¦but only if it has a hardware GeoShred MPE play surface.

  • edited August 2021

    @FriedTapeworm said:
    Iā€™m intrigued by this hardware version ideaā€¦but only if it has a hardware GeoShred MPE play surface.

    Our current proposal, the moBox, would still use an iOS device or any MPE controller as a controller. It's probably not realistic for a small company to reproduce the hardware/software stack behind Apple's low latency/jitter touch screen technology. The aggregate LOE (Level of Effort) behind creating the iOS low latency/jitter touch screen technology is easily 1000s of person years.

    Note that the hardware/software stack behind Android and Windows Surface does not currently have reasonable latency/jitter.

  • @moForte said:

    @FriedTapeworm said:
    Iā€™m intrigued by this hardware version ideaā€¦but only if it has a hardware GeoShred MPE play surface.

    Our current proposal, the moBox, would still use an iOS device or any MPE controller as a controller. It's probably not realistic for a small company to reproduce the hardware/software stack behind Apple's low latency/jitter touch screen technology. The aggregate LOE (Level of Effort) behind creating the iOS low latency/jitter touch screen technology is easily 1000s of person years.

    Note that the hardware/software stack behind Android and Windows Surface does not currently have reasonable latency/jitter.

    Maybe a GeoShred inspired fret overlay for the Sensel Morph could be a simple and realistically achievable solution. As an example an overlay was created in partnership for the Buchla Thunder.

    https://morph.sensel.com/products/morph-with-buchla-thunder-overlay

  • I have also answered the survey.
    Regarding new sounds, I voted for different electric guitar models, oud, but also wind instruments (bamboo flute and shashuaki) as I didnā€™t know it was possible.
    I also suggested electric bass, pizz double bass, harp, luth.

    As for new features, I think moforte should focus on ā€œalmost magicalā€ features that have made GeoShred unique, like they did when introducing the ā€œalmost magical pitch rounding algorithmā€.
    That could be :

    • a bowing area to play (Geo)Swam instruments like in FingerFiddle, relying on finger speed moving back and forth.
    • a strumming area, like in steel guitar, but with something special: either finger speed detection or x-position assignable to velocity or any performable parameter.
  • Another cool feature, but not proposed in the survey: the possibility to insert external AUv3 plugins in the FX chain, like Nembrini amps, pedals, etc.
    Of course, that would mean transform GeoShred into an AUv3 host while in standalone mode. Not an easy transformation I guessā€¦

  • +1 for a Sensel Overlay. Would buy Day One.

    @GrnEgz_N_Hm said:
    Maybe a GeoShred inspired fret overlay for the Sensel Morph could be a simple and realistically achievable solution. As an example an overlay was created in partnership for the Buchla Thunder.

    https://morph.sensel.com/products/morph-with-buchla-thunder-overlay

  • @Paulo164 said:
    I have also answered the survey.
    Regarding new sounds, I voted for different electric guitar models, oud, but also wind instruments (bamboo flute and shashuaki) as I didnā€™t know it was possible.
    I also suggested electric bass, pizz double bass, harp, luth.

    As for new features, I think moforte should focus on ā€œalmost magicalā€ features that have made GeoShred unique, like they did when introducing the ā€œalmost magical pitch rounding algorithmā€.
    That could be :

    • a bowing area to play (Geo)Swam instruments like in FingerFiddle, relying on finger speed moving back and forth.
    • a strumming area, like in steel guitar, but with something special: either finger speed detection or x-position assignable to velocity or any performable parameter.

    Could be an opportunity for a new kind of GeoShred app, which combines strumming and picking features into a new kind of model which would blend their great picking style and Yonacā€™s great strumming model with Steel Guitar.

  • @Paulo164 said:
    Another cool feature, but not proposed in the survey: the possibility to insert external AUv3 plugins in the FX chain, like Nembrini amps, pedals, etc.
    Of course, that would mean transform GeoShred into an AUv3 host while in standalone mode. Not an easy transformation I guessā€¦

    Agreed. I wrote in exactly that when I filled out the survey a few days ago.

  • I just want a nicer UI. There are so many features and sounds already crammed into GeoShred. The menus are endless and kind of a mess. Even selecting my own patches from the list is a pita.

    Some menus close with the word "close", some don't. Some menus require a tap-away which means I will make unintended sounds during performance. The skeuomorphic effects don't match the rest of the UI and are fiddly with lots of wasted space. The expression pad is too small, the harmonics selection buttons too big...

    Taking the survey made me realize the app is about to get more crowded, were there any questions about usability or UI?

    Ease of use brought me to iOS so app feature creep is a big issue for me. But spending some time on this forum made me realize I am pretty much the only person who feels that way.

  • When I first received the survey I was like ā€œCool! Thereā€™s going to be a significant new investment in GeoShred!ā€ But when I saw all the random tangentially-related stuff in the survey I was like ā€œUh oh, they seem to have lost their direction and vision of what is uniquely special about GeoShred and are trying to be everything to everyone.ā€ I also got ā€œSecond System Syndromeā€ vibes.

    In my opinion, GeoShredā€™s secret sauce is primarily a combination of 1) an expressive controller, and 2) expressive instruments, which currently happen to be physical models, a rarity on this platform. I believe thereā€™s still plenty of room for innovation in these two primary strengths of GeoShred.

    For controller expressivity, I love @Paulo164 ā€˜s idea of a bowing area like in FingerFiddle. Additional options could be a ribbon strip, two side-by-side expression faders as is commonly used for orchestral controllers, or a larger XY pad with 3D Touch support (or simulated by fingertip surface area) to imitate the Arturia PolyBruteā€™s Morphee controller. It would be cool if there was a toggle you could hold down in mono mode that turns the currently pressed note/fret into a larger XY pad control surface, kind of like a zoomed-in magnifying glass, so that the note-playing finger temporarily has additional room for expressivity, rather than having to do that in a different area with a different finger.

    I also think the underlying physically modeled instruments could become more diverse and expressive, at least in the guitar / plucked string arena, so I was glad to see more realistic guitars at the top of the survey list. I think SWAM has it covered for strings and brass. But improving controller expressivity would unlock even more of their potential.

  • I understand @abf point of view.
    I think every intensive GeoShred user has once thought ā€œok, the UI could be cleaner, modernized, etc.ā€. But in the end, we can do whatever we want with the parameters and thatā€™s what we appreciate, should it be at the expense of a more crammed UI. And finally, UI is no longer a priority šŸ˜…

    Yes @orand, the more I think of it, the more I think itā€™s THE simple good idea.
    Simply add to the XY pad the possibility to measure dX/dt+dY/dt and assign the result to any performable parameter, especially CC11 (Expression) to control the GeoViolin and GeoCello. This would add an enormous value, I would dare to say, at a minimal developing cost. @moforte, donā€™t you think so ? šŸ˜‰šŸ¤ž

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