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J_NO Chorus AU Released & Free

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  • This sounds quite nice!!

  • Love well designed simple and easy to use single-purpose apps.

  • Very generous of the dev. Thanks.

  • Tyvm, Dev!

  • Nice, simple straight forward, good sound and free. What's not to love :D. Thanks for the tip.

  • edited August 2021

    I think there's a 'bug' in this one when using both I & II at the same time...
    ...as example of both I & II are enabled in TAL-UN-O-LX or even on the real Juno it gets 'super fat' while this app gets almost 'static'.

    Loading two instances and setting one one to I and the other to II provides the results I would expect when 'both' modes are enabled.

    Oh well, it's free so I won't complain this is just an observation :sunglasses:

  • I'm not sure if I'm just doing something off-base, but one of the first things I tried was sending a simple sine wave from the iVCS oscillator module through it. The result was glitchy. I thought maybe it was just coming in too hot, but volume didn't make any difference.

    It sounds good with normal input from other more musical sources, but I would expect it to work the same for a sustained tone.

    I wonder if this is a gap in my understanding or a pointer to some kind of bug.

  • @wim said:
    I'm not sure if I'm just doing something off-base, but one of the first things I tried was sending a simple sine wave from the iVCS oscillator module through it. The result was glitchy. I thought maybe it was just coming in too hot, but volume didn't make any difference.

    It sounds good with normal input from other more musical sources, but I would expect it to work the same for a sustained tone.

    I wonder if this is a gap in my understanding or a pointer to some kind of bug.

    I'm not getting any glitchy sound with that combination in Drambo?

  • @BroCoast said:

    @wim said:
    I'm not sure if I'm just doing something off-base, but one of the first things I tried was sending a simple sine wave from the iVCS oscillator module through it. The result was glitchy. I thought maybe it was just coming in too hot, but volume didn't make any difference.

    It sounds good with normal input from other more musical sources, but I would expect it to work the same for a sustained tone.

    I wonder if this is a gap in my understanding or a pointer to some kind of bug.

    I'm not getting any glitchy sound with that combination in Drambo?

    Thanks. This was in AUM. I may investigate further. Kinda don't need this one because of FAC Chorus, but still ...

  • I really like the sound og the juno chorus. I have an old 106 and that chorus always makes everything just a bit more sweet 😊. Looking forward to test it as an AUv3

  • Here's what I mean with the 'J_NO glitch' I bumped into...
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/07k8xa1vf2y1ewd/glitch.mp4?dl=0

    This is a very basic example with auGENX and a saw wave at 55Hz.

    With both I & II enabled in one J_NO instance the sound becomes 'stuttery' while if the sound is fed thru two instances (one set to I and the other to II) it sounds like it should. Each mode on its own sounds ok.

    No biggie, just an observation but I do wish it was possible to use one instance with I & II enabled without the stutter...
    I do suspect this is the BUG as it feels like the LFO that is modulating the choruses gets 'reset'.
    (Does anyone know if the developer is active here?).

    Cheers!
    /Samuel

  • Does anyone have an e-mail address to the developer?
    All links point to Twitter and that is not the proper forum to 'bash' a buggy app...
    The app is also fully universal even for Intel Mac's but it's the same 'bug' when using I & II at the same time.

    Cheers!

  • @Samu hm ya, checked a few places and twitter only. i msg'd him that we could use his eyes over here on the forum.

  • @BitterGums said:
    @Samu hm ya, checked a few places and twitter only. i msg'd him that we could use his eyes over here on the forum.

    Thanks I've added a link to the glitch video on a few FB posts as well...
    ...hopefully we'll get the attention as this thing sounds really good, especially when modes I & II are combined :sunglasses:

  • edited August 2021

    Anyone compared it to how the TAL one sounds on desktop? Or even in the AUv3 synth, compared with using this on top of it. The author says he didn’t try that one or compare them

  • Hi all! I'm the dev on this app / plugin, please don't bash it too hard 😉.

    As for the I+II combination, that's odd, I could've sworn I fixed that. I'll take a look probably this weekend.

  • No bashing! Sounds great. Thanks for taking the time to create it 🙏🏻

  • edited August 2021

    @b3ll thanks for looking into it. and welcome to the forum!

  • edited August 2021

    So I took a quick look and I might've found part of the problem… can anyone tell me if this is any better for I+II? I was only able to make a macOS build right now

    I compared to the Arturia Jun-v6 chorus and they sound very similar… I really wish I had the real thing 🥲

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/latw62xew8hsrtx/J_NO Chorus 1.0.1.zip?dl=0

  • @Samu can you give this rebuild a test? ....my mac or OS must be too old cuz it's not recognizing the .au

  • @BitterGums said:
    @Samu can you give this rebuild a test? ....my mac or OS must be too old cuz it's not recognizing the .au

    I'll try it with Logic and see how it rolls...
    ...seems like there's still some stutter left.

    @b3ll The 'stutter' is not fully eliminated in the linked build...

    It sounds very much like the Arturia JUN-6 which also 'stutters' when using I & II at the same time.

    The 'desired effect' would be like running two instance of J_NO with one instance set to I and the other to II.

    https://tal-software.com/products/tal-chorus-lx
    (You need to hold down option for Logic to show it in the plug-in list)

    The TAL CHORUS-LX is the 'holy grail' of Juno Choruses and works just like the original hardware with I & II enabled.
    If you nail the 'dual mode' you've got a winner!

    Cheers!

  • Aha! I know what I did wrong, I’ll fix it this weekend. Thanks @Samu

  • @b3ll said:
    Aha! I know what I did wrong, I’ll fix it this weekend. Thanks @Samu

    You're Welcome!

    Feel free to post the new build when it's done :sunglasses:
    (I'll download the AppStore version when it's updated and give it some well deserved stars).

    Cheers!

  • edited August 2021

    Ok! This should fix the stuttering: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l1qng03ujmyr7l8/J_NO Chorus v1.0.1.zip?dl=0

    I rewrote a bunch of the engine to essentially be a two path chorus system to be a more accurate emulation which looks something like this:

    • I: In ➡️ I Chorus ➡️ Out
    • II: In ➡️ II Chorus ➡️ Out
    • I+II: In ➡️ I Chorus ➡️ II Chorus ➡️ Out

    Previously I had something setup like this:

    • I+II: In ➡️ I + II Chorus ➡️ Out

    This was where there wasn't a duplicated chorus signal but moreso an emulation of what a "double chorused" signal would act like.

    It's missing a compressor in the signal path, but I still think it sounds great. If y'all give it the thumbs up, I'll submit it to the store :)

  • Also @BitterGums what OS are you running? The AUv2 bundled inside the J_NO app (Help, Install AU Component) should run on macOS 10.15 and above, you'll just need to reboot after installing it

  • Hmmm, In this version there is NO difference between modes I & II which can't be right?!

    Cheers!

  • edited August 2021

    @Samu actually from what I realized the original version had a very distinct difference between I and II which was actually an error on my part (I was using the wrong LFO for left vs. right in setting I, which lead to the sound being drastically different).

    AFAIK what I have here is more accurate (you can tell the difference between the modulation rates in I and II if you listen closely enough).

    I'm not sure if TAL adds an expander after their signal path to make it more "shimmery" / wider, which could also explain the diff between the two

    I'll see if there's something else I messed up

  • Sounds good.
    Thanks @b3ll !

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