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Drum Sequencing advice needed.

Can anyone think of a drum sequencer that I can change the midi out per pad?

I want to be able to map it to the Boss BR80 so that I can then import the midi files as new rhythms.

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  • edited August 2021

    For quick effortless results probably midiDRUMs from midiDREAMs pack

    https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/mididreams/id1553799788

    Which allows each track sent on different channel

    Or there is Drambo if you need more advanced sequencing features. :)

    Edit:
    Oops... possibly a bad suggestion as these won’t import midi afaik.
    Atom2 may be able to do all, but that would require scripting.

  • edited August 2021

    It’s only got 8 notes. I want 12

  • If you have Drambo I can patch up something and share...
    F.e
    Drambo as AU - straightforward 12ch step seq, with above listed note assignments, but no midi import
    or
    Drambo as host, with Atom2 AU (for midi import functionality).

  • DigiStix 2 lets you map each of its 64 pads for both input/output

  • edited August 2021

    If you need more than 8 instruments, DrumPerfect Pro let you assign manually a midi number to each instrument ( up to 76 ), then save the map as a new kit. There is also a detailed quick midi mapping page.

    Midi file preview and import is available.

  • @0tolerance4silence said:
    If you have Drambo I can patch up something and share...
    F.e
    Drambo as AU - straightforward 12ch step seq, with above listed note assignments, but no midi import
    or
    Drambo as host, with Atom2 AU (for midi import functionality).

    I don’t have drambo- but was on my list to get eventually ….

    I don’t need midi import, or 12 channels, just ch10 and the ability to export a midi file.

  • I think ALL of Lumbeat Drum Apps.... 22 into the video..

  • EG Pulse can do this too

  • The trickier part of your original post is the export of a midi file, not simply the output of Midi note data to a sound source on a specific midi channel (channel 10, the GM standard for drums/percussion).

    The tricky part isn’t that its tuff per sé, it’s that there’s a multitude of ways to skin this particular cat dependent on the flexibility you’re looking for. None of the apps mentioned so far have the ability to exort a midi file (AFAIK). They can be set up for midi note and channel, to midi out to other sound sources, but that’s not the same as an exportable midi file set to channel 10 playing to the GM drums specification. However, if any of the aforementioned apps appeal to you, you could pair it with Anthony Saunders excellent ‘Photon’ midi recorder, and then export the midi file from there.

    Personally, I roll with the Drambo and Photon combo but if you’re new to modular gear, there’s a relatively steep learning curve. EG Pulse with Photon will get you up an running far faster.

    Presuming you already have an iOS drum sound source that can be set up according to GM conventions (both note number and channel), another excellent option is Xequence 2. This is the best midi sequencer on the app store but it is midi only. The benefit of Xequence 2 is that it exports midi files natively so there would be no need to purchase Photon. Photon and Xequence 2 are in the same price range but you get far more for your money with Xequence 2. But yet again there is a learning curve involved, although it’s not as steep as that with Drambo.

  • @RajahP Thanks but the lumbeats apps only have 8 instruments

    @DarkAum3o Thanks but that’s the reverse of what I want to do

  • edited August 2021

    And suddenly from a locked away memory, I thought of FunkBox as an all in one option as by default it follows GM conventions. And it exports midi files natively. Even though it only has 9 pads it has 12 GM notes mapped as some of the pads play a choice of sounds.

    All of this for under a fiver!

    Apologies for not thinking of this before, it’s been such a long time since I used Funkbox, but back in the early days of iOS noise making, Funkbox was one of my most used apps, specifically because of its export capabilities (and superb sample sources).

    Check out the manual to see if it fits your needs.

    http://syntheticbits.com/FunkBoxv3iPad.pdf

  • @jonmoore - an oldy but a goldie. If it had a song mode it would do fine

    Closer examination of the Boss mapping shows it to be a subset of the GM midi map so that’s something.

  • @jonmoore DigiStix 2 did get an update after release to allow MIDI export either directly to Helium’s media bay or the filesystem.

  • @MisplacedDevelopment said:
    @jonmoore DigiStix 2 did get an update after release to allow MIDI export either directly to Helium’s media bay or the filesystem.

    Sounds promising.

  • And suddenly locked away in memory …..

    FL studio (version 2)

  • mfxConvert is cheap, very handy for this kind of thing, and can be used with any drum app (between the app and the output). No programming needed. Just set up your mappings then save as a preset for later use.

  • @wim The mfx series Bundle should be in every iOS musicians toolkit IMO, that and Victor Porof’s Midi Tools combined will get you were you need to be for the majority of MIDI hacking challenges. :smile:

  • @jonmoore said:
    @wim The mfx series Bundle should be in every iOS musicians toolkit IMO, that and Victor Porof’s Midi Tools combined will get you were you need to be for the majority of MIDI hacking challenges. :smile:

    yep. I must have done 50 posts where that is my suggestion. So much so that I have the App Store URL bookmarked. :D

  • @BiancaNeve said:
    @RajahP Thanks but the lumbeats apps only have 8 instruments

    They are not… AFAIK… you can mix it up… I do Maschine Mapping (16 pads) all the time..

  • edited August 2021

    Octachron, you can use two instances to get 16 total sequencer lanes.

  • @wim said:
    mfxConvert is cheap, very handy for this kind of thing, and can be used with any drum app (between the app and the output). No programming needed. Just set up your mappings then save as a preset for later use.

    Didn’t know this one. Can you program a whole mapping, as in many notes/events, within one instance?. Can’t tell from a the AppStore screenshot. It might come handy to convert notes to program change events in order to control Digitakt patterns from a daw or LK. Could I convert a series of notes to pc events in one instance?. I know I can do it with Mozaic, but this is more straightforward.

  • wimwim
    edited August 2021

    @tahiche said:

    @wim said:
    mfxConvert is cheap, very handy for this kind of thing, and can be used with any drum app (between the app and the output). No programming needed. Just set up your mappings then save as a preset for later use.

    Didn’t know this one. Can you program a whole mapping, as in many notes/events, within one instance?. Can’t tell from a the AppStore screenshot.

    Yes. It's not too obvious from the interface, but yes.

    It might come handy to convert notes to program change events in order to control Digitakt patterns from a daw or LK. Could I convert a series of notes to pc events in one instance?. I know I can do it with Mozaic, but this is more straightforward.

    I'm not totally sure I understand the question. It's a one-to-one mapping. So C0 could be mapped to PC 0, C#0 to PC 50, whatever. You couldn't map C0 to both PC 0 and PC 50 at the same time in the same instance.

    Mapping can be quick. With Learn, all you need to do is hit a note, then set the mapping on the right-hand side. Hit another note, map it ... for each inbound note. Each mapping gets added to a drop-down list on the right-hand side.

    As much as I enjoy writing scripts, I avoid it wherever there is a non-scripting alternative. That's just my practical IT background kicking in.

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