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SWAM Trumpet + Akai MPK mini (joystick question)
Hey all,
Another midi control question
Here goes..
With the joystick on the top left of the keyb, I hoped to control vibrato with Y axis, and expression with X axis.
By default, SWAM makes the vibrato Y (correct), and X pitch bend (I want to change X).
But when i try to config X for Expression, it seems inseparable to Y. i.e. if I tweak X axis on the joystick. When I'm done, and move joystick along X axis, it also effects Vibrato.
Am I hoping for too much from the joystick?
If all fails here, I met just go back to using the glass screen, but I do like the feel of my Akai's keys, and want to pursue that if I can.
Many thanks folks.
Comments
Can’t you assign CC11 to the X axis of your joystick ? Then assign CC11 to the Expression parameter of SWAM through the MIDI learn ?
I'm not sure how i do that.
I think the problem I seem to be having, is that the joystick doesn't seem to be recognised as independent axes.
Or at least, they are recognised, but in a different 'format'? (That's not a very good word for it). I'll try and explain.
If you look in my screen shot, in the midi readout, when I tweak the Y axis, you can see
'[CC] Ch=1 controller=1'
But when I tweak the Y on the joystick, it reads in as
'[Pitch Bend] Ch=1'
(as if this Y axis has nothing to do with any CC number).
-another thing which is making me believe the X axis can't be made to do anything is that, when I'm in the Midi learn screen and attempt to assign (by tweaking the joystick left or right), there's no visual confirmation on the screen. -when you tweak the joystick on the Y axis, you'll see the circular dial climb up as you push the stick more and more. (Its a visual feedback part of the UI to show you what's happening).
I know on the mk2 if you go into the actual akai editor, you can change what parameter the X and y axis are assigned to. I imagine the mk3 has a similar editor.
Ah ok interesting. Would this editor be something you do on a PC?
Yeah
Kinda like flashing firmware?
? Just go to akaipro.com and register your mpk. Then go to your account area and download the mpk editor.
Evening all.
So I got the MPK editor downloaded, installed, thanks for the tips there.
I'm half way there I guess.
I find it easier to explain what I'm trying to do in video form, if anyone would be willing to have a look and see where I'm going wrong?
(trying to make X axis control vibrato, Y axis control expression).
You midi learned the Y. Did you try to midi learn the X for vibrato?
If I remember I had similar issue with xy on korg nanostudio. MIDI learn could work but in the end I think I looked up the Cc numbers the x and y were transmitting and added them manually by typing in swam
Hi there . I simply can't.
This is the basic problem.
When i tweak the stick horizontally, the app does not recognise this movement.
Well hopefully someone else here has a solution as I do not own any of the swam apps. Our perhaps you should reach out to the developer and see if they can help you work through it.
Thanks. Yeah this is what I did try, which is in the video, but for some reason it won't retain that text entry.
I think the route of the problem (in my view) is that the app doesn't read any input at all when I tweak the stick left or right. (This is when I'm at the Midi Learn screen).
It reads the Y axis (the circular dial is displayed on iPad screen and you can see it react as I move the stick Y. But no reaction at all when I move it X.
I know for certain that the controller is working (as MidiWrench app reads all inputs).
You can't use the X axis as CC assignment.
X axis control pitch-bend or nothing. When set to "Pitch bend", then pitch bend messages are sent. But pitch bend cannot be transcribed into CC messages natively. For that, you need a Streambyter script that will transcribe pitch bend messages to CC values. You can find one ready in the "code boutique" :
https://audeonic.boards.net/thread/693/pitchbend-2-ccs
Hope it's clear !
Thanks Paulo, everything you said is clear however I'm not looking to control pitch at all with this.
I'm getting somewhere now, the developer kindly helped me understand (even recorded a video for me and uploaded it to his Google drive to explain). Everything he showed me, I was doing already but I was greatful for the direct help, awesome guy!
The problem in the end, was that the app was seeing both the X, and Y as CC1. Whereas, they need to be set to different channels (in the AKAI editor). ❗
I had my AKAI plugged in to PC (usb) but it was not even recognised in device manager!! So no chance in hell the editor would work! I tried it on a different Windows machine and it picked it up, allowing me to edit freely within Akai editor. 👍
So after sorting that, SWAM now sees the X and Y on different channels 👍
💡💡 The only thing I want to try and sort now, is that the joystick is central at rest (naturally), but this means the parameters I've signed to it are both sitting at 50% by default 😆
So I currently have a 50% vibrato but default. I need to find a way to make the centre position 0% for vibrato. Then pushing it all the way to the top takes it to 100%.
When I had the Akai keyboard, I assigned the pitch wheel to a knob. Not sure if that’s a viable option, but it was what I did to get precise control.