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…when I place my transport bar where I want to make an edit then click on the midi - the transport bar in the midi is not where I placed it.
This. But not at all a mess for me. Air 5, 15.6. Never a crash. Not sure what all the minutiae problems are all about… using it in many successful complex projects.
I like that it works seamlessly with the Faderport 2. That makes working with the channels a lot easier as well as controlling play functions etc.
I'll give Cubasis 3 a go again later on but the constant crashes I had made me 'loose it'...
No super special Plug-ins were used either and they have caused ZERO issues for me in the past on the iPad Air 2.
I guess that if Cubasis is just used as a 'digital tape-recorder' it might be a bit more stable but when it crashes moving a couple of selected notes in the midi-editor I loose my temper... (And what's worse is that it's NOT a repeatable issues but a 'random act of chaos').
Don't get me wrong I'll try to stay supportive on Cubasis and have a kinda 'Love & Hate' relationship with it
It is what it is and we'll have to live with it for a while...
Cheers!
Have to add that the crashes happened when I was doing the midi-edits while Cubasis transport was running.
It's apparently more stable for editing with the transport stopped...
I'm surprised to hear complaints about Cubasis. Sure there's a few things missing still and annoying UI decisions but overall I find it pretty stable and friendly.
3.0 was an embarrassment and massive disappointment but things quickly improved from here.
3.2 (I think) with it's improvements to multi-core has literally saved me £600 (or whatever the M1 Air costs now). My Air 3 now copes just fine with a big project so I'm happy with Cubasis and look forward to future tweaks and new features
Cubasis 3 is far from perfect, but compared to auria pro it’s far superior in terms of amount of crashes. Auria is almost unusable in its current state.
I think it’s time the audio software companies, stop releasing watered down versions of the software and put out full versions at the full pc and Mac price on iOS. The iPad is pretty capable these days I’m terms of specs
We just need the current ones to step up.even if it means releasing features we have to pay for.
Imagine if Cubasis has most of the things @Samu mentioned, why would one need new DAW?
Cubasis is definitely one of the best iOS DAWs with a some minor / great additions, it could be all you need.
+1 on that honestly...
...I do feel that if/when Apple drops Logic for iPad it will put some pressure on the others if they have intentions on staying on the platform.
As I'm mostly using iPad and all the apps using touch-gestures (and now Apple Pencil) I have like less than zero interest on mouse and keyboard support etc. If I wanted that I'd be using a laptop instead...
I like to 'touch the content' even though it's a more psychological thing, but I do feel more connected with the content using my fingers than a mouse/keyboard combo. The pencil is a nice 'middle ground' as the tip is smaller than my fingers will ever be
Imagine if Cubasis had the same kind of 'backing' from Yamaha as Zenbeats has from Roland?
But yeah, Cubasis is what it is...
...it will mature at its own phase.
Cheers!
Hi @Shed,
First of all I'm sorry to read that you seem to have issues, which always is a pain when being creative.
Honestly, I'm unhappy with the chosen topic title, which fortunately does not match with the experience of the majority of Cubasis users posting in this thread.
Please provide me with more details about your issue, to allow us to start evaluating where the problems could be related to.
Thanks,
Lars
Steps
(1) Load the "New Project" project template.
(2) Close all running apps, including Cubasis.
(3) Fully shut down the iPad.
Does Cubasis works as expected, once relaunching the iPad and the app?
Do you encounter issues when adding specific 3rd party plug-ins?
Bug Reports, Clips And More
Please upload the requested files via Dropbox or similar and let me have the download links via private message.
How to find crash reports on the iPad
😂🤣
Besides that I don’t have many issues with CB3 on my iPad Pro 11 M1.
Actually I’m quite happy with Cubasis3. Would love to get multiple tracks/lanes per instrument and/or pattern ghosting and or BPM changes mid-track.. would be happy to pay extra for these features, too. But yeah C3 is plenty good ATM IMHO.
Pattern ghosting is absolutely at the top of my wish-list for Cubasis. Such a simple feature to be missing, and I seem to waste a lot of time going back through and copy/pasting in a 'tweaked' pattern throughout the whole project after a small edit.
Automation does appear to be a little buggy at times, especially if you try to copy/paste some automation points to a earlier section of the song - the automation 'wires' quite often end up all tangled and overlapping and you have to start from scratch!
As a DAW though, it's an amazing piece of software, and its multi-core capabilities are outstanding - I'm always amazed at how much I can throw at it before the (M1) iPad begins to struggle. I think I've only ever experienced one crash in the year or so since I got my iPad (and after re-launching the software, the project was exactly how I left it).
Hi @Shed again,
I've shared your issue with our lead engineer who uses the same iPad as yours.
Since his experiences did not match to yours too, we would like to further exchange with you to further evaluate the topic.
If you agree, please check my private message for further details.
Best,
Lars
Just decided to give Cubasis another chance as so many that I respect on here get on well with it, got a massive advert for things that I already own over the top of the interface. And it happens every time I launch it. Who the hell signs off on that?
I think maybe there's a setting to turn that off (for now), but I agree: super tacky. I'd love to see Cubasis do well and continue to improve, but for my own part I've been gravitating toward Zenbeats, which is catching up fast in terms of features and stability (though still has a way to go), and offers a clip launcher-based workflow if you want it.
Every now and then I try the others, I really want them all to succeed. The power of Cubasis with the polish and usability of NS2 would be the dream for me. Might have to give Zenbeats another go.
Gave it a go. Oh dear. https://streamable.com/ai1e8q
Check your audio rate in Settings. What is the default audio rate of your device? ZB and device audio rate should match. Try switching to “No Audio Device..” and back to “iOS Audio”. I’d choose ZB over CB3 for overall user experience/workflow. I also quite like FLSM. YMMV
When you see Lars from Steinberg post on a thread like this, on a forum that does have a reputation for slaughtering developers, trying to do his best to help and believe me he will - that tells you something. Steinberg care. They want Cubasis 3 to give you the best experience it can and they’re working hard on that. iOS Music is relatively new - a DAW for iPad - we’re in uncharted waters here and Steinberg aren’t pissypanting about waiting for the right time to explore the iOS market like other software houses. They’re doing it. And they haven’t released an app and then buggered off because it didn’t work out like they thought right away. It’s too easy to fall into that playground mentality so commonly found in forums like this of whinging and slagging and making harsh remarks. Taking the piss and making people who want to help feel unwelcome. Report your bugs on the Steinberg forum. Take screen shots and screen recordings and be part of the solution.
@Jamie_Mallender well said. I've had issues with Cubasis but the updates and support have been great and I've yet to regret my purchase.
It crashed multiple times for me yesterday, I just gave up. again. I am using a 2017 iPad Pro 12.9 and only internal midi instruments only four tracks. Granted I a did use a wireless midi keyboard to input the notes. Going back to the desktop
Do you close all your running apps in the background before opening Cubasis?
I have heard you make this claim before and I don’t think it is accurate. Developers are on the whole incredibly respected here at ABF, more so than any other forum I am a member of, and I cannot think of a single interaction that could be described as ‘slaughtering’. Can you PM me if I missed some stuff here?
IK took some heat for a buggy update. AudioKit took some heat for the 909 thing. But many more defended than criticized. I think you are doing the forum a bit of a disservice by saying it has a reputation for slaughtering developers.
The forum does have something of a reputation, though in truth that rep is earned by a small amount of members - as is usually the case with these things. I make demos for developers so I talk to them regularly. I also speak frequently with the other YouTubers that make iOS content. We all have experience of this. Some of the YouTubers won’t touch the forum anymore, some developers won’t. I’m not going to private message you and tell you who, I’m not going to betray a confidence. Now, I’m probably thicker skinned than most people, it won’t keep me awake at night but I keep mentioning it because it’s not good for the community.
Hi @ralis,
Please give the following steps a check:
(1) Load the "New Project" project template.
(2) Close all apps, including Cubasis.
(3) Fully shut down the iPad.
Does Cubasis run as expected, once you've restarted the device and app?
Best,
Lars
Hi @Shed again,
Please get back to me!
We are interested to exchange with you regarding your issues!
Thanks,
Lars
Let’s stick to developers as per your original comment. Well if you keep mentioning it then I guess it keeps happening.
ABF - The Slaughterhouse!
I had no idea this place was that rough. Crazy.
I think we have to separate the opinion on apps between those who get 'freebies' from developers to do demos/videos on and those us who actually have to buy the apps (or in some cases hardware).
Most of the time when you get a 'freebies' and the feedback is a bit too negative it likely means no more freebies from that developer/company...
Can't help it but sometimes when 'reading between the lines' the opinions feel almost like hey are 'bought' (ie. 'paid opinions').
If I'm being called a 'butcher' just because I voice my opinion based on a longish period (+10 years) of messing around with music related apps on iOS so be it...
...and if anyone feels this place would better with 'sugarcoating sh*t' then I'm outta here.
I have full respect for @LFS and his team on the work they do on Cubasis and as I've mentioned I have a 'Love & Hate' relationship with the app and like everyone I want it to improve but sometimes it does feel like a 'Brat' who refuses to 'Grow Up'
I do love the approach @Jamie_Mallender has on his videos and I have a feeling he also knows that I don't raise my voice in vain unless something is 'F'ked Up' one way or another.
Having just re-installed Cubasis again I hope it'll behave this time around!
Cheers!
/Samuel
Yes, only Cubasis 3 was open