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FLSM 4.1 released
I have a soft spot for this one so good to see that FLSM continues to be developed
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Cool!
https://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=260871
Nice.. seems it’s coming along nicely, these days… got to go relearn it.. Thanks..
Very welcome. Unjustly overlooked app.
In spite of not supporting AUv3 and having some quirks I find I can be very productive with it.
3xOSC?! Slide notes?! Now I'm intrigued greatly!
I've really tried to like FLSM but I feel no real 'connection' with it...
(For DAW duties I'm back to Logic on the Mac).
I used to use FLSM when it was built on Xewton Music Studio's architecture before 3.0 , and I stopped using it a short while after 3.0. For me I think it deserves another look now, especially with 3xOSC now built in!
I liked the 'pre 3.0' FLSM as well but the new UI just irks me to a point where I just want to throw the iPad out the window...
...so to protect the iPad I just deleted the app.
Yeah, I go back to the beginning myself: when FLSM was just Fruity Loops and it was freeware. It sure has come a long way. I have a love/not so love relationship with the iOS version. No AUV3 is one annoyance, the other is UI awkwardness. I will reinstall it and see if it usable now.
🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, the UI is a pain in the arse. Tell you what mate. I'm going to challenge myself to make a track mostly in FLSM. Probably Trance.
Same here mate.
Funny - I don’t find the UI awkward at all. I’ve begged them to update the mixer, one of my biggest peeves. Their response to user input has been pretty good in my experience. I’ve found the Clay skin to suit my needs pretty well. The way it handles audio, within certain limitations, is really good.
On paper, when FLSM was released for iPad I was like: dream come true because that was all I used before the iPad came out, until I used it. It feels unfinished and unnecessarily challenging to use, almost as if the developers were trying do things differently than everyone else and it went horribly wrong ☠️
They do approach some things differently which can be quite brilliant in some cases and absolutely baffling in others. The three apps I really connect with are FLSM, NS2, and Caustic. In most cases I feel like “that’s how I would’ve done it”. None of the other DAW’s I’ve used give me that feeling. I also will never use a video editor other than Final Cut Pro. 😆
I feel you 😂
It’s like some folks like edit every note in piano roll and some rather just play it out
It’s prob the best sound generator for me to sample and throw into koala
So I finally gave FLSM a whirl to try out the new things, and I was excited and even purchased a couple IAP packs. But...the excitement wore off once I started working on a test track - a remix of this...
(I always attempt a remix of this track whenever I test something new.)
I quickly remembered why I couldn't get on with using FLSM. So much menu diving, plus the fact that working on synth and effects parameters requires me to reach over to the right side of the screen (I'm left-handed). Now that I use a 12.9" M1 iPad Pro, that's quite the reach.
There are so many amazing features in FLSM, including the updated autoducker which is now on par with Nicky Romero's Kickstart 2 plugin, a simple autotuner called Pitcher, their own multiband compressor, the OG 3xOSC finally brought in to FLSM, GMSynth which is almost like Massive, etc, that you can't find anywhere else on iOS. FLSM even has audio tracks, something NS2 lacks.
Yet with all these positives and amazing features, FLSM is just so fiddly, and I'm not thrilled with the output I create in it. This is definitely a personal opinion and not an issue with FLSM itself.
Still waiting for recording quantize and the long rumored “major” UI update. It’s still on my iPad, but it’s getting crowded over here
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Pretty basic but I get some cool sh!t out of it!
And my opinion has changed. I have horribly underrated FLSM. I recently challenged myself to create my next Lofi EP in FLSM on my iPhone SE 2 to finally learn the app, and I have discovered it to be a great app for creating Lofi (although I'll still use AUM to master the EP as a whole).
First of all, one of my main gripes with FLSM was the GUI. It was a bit cumbersome to navigate on my iPad, but it works great on my small iPhone screen where I can use my thumbs to easily navigate it!
Second of all, it doesn't drain my SE's weaker battery as quickly as NS2 and Gadget do. It's also easier on the CPU and RAM and doesn't heat up my phone any.
Third of all, navigating samples is a breeze. I have the "Lofi Box" sample pack installed and can find drums quickly.
Fourth, the Directwave instruments it comes with and the IAPs sound really great.
Fifth, it has audio tracks unlike NS2, so if I'm missing a sound, I can quickly cook up a loop in AUM using Atom, or I can record a one-shot and import that into Directwave.
Six, the piano roll in FLSM is arguably easier than NS2 in many ways. Okay, so it sucks that I don't have note adjustment handles like in NS2, but I can lay down a note, adjust its length, and the following notes I lay down will be the same length as the note I adjusted, making creating chords a breeze.
Seven, automation is also far easier as I can use automation clips! Okay, so I wish FLSM had automation curves like FL Studio has, but so what? That's such a small nitpick. I don't have to menu-dive to find a parameter to automate. I just touch a knob or slider or whathaveyou, press the three dots on the transport, create an automation lane, and off I go.
Of course I had to find some workarounds as FLSM lacks a handful of things I'm used to. Mainly, no tape effect. Solution - every built-in synth, including Directwave, has an LFO that can modulate pitch to mimick tape warble. Slap on a little soft clipping from the Distortion effect, and it emulates the sound I'm looking for quite well. The Distortion also has a bit crusher to add a touch of digital artifacts.
I finished my first track for my EP here (I used AUM for mastering but mixed everything else down in FLSM itself!)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/em4aerfyhqu8ms9/JWM - FLSM Testing-converted.m4a?dl=0
The piano roll is one of the weakest parts of FLSM if not the weakest. What are good sounding instruments good for when it‘s a nightmare to paint in melodies?
It was all there in the old version...
Interesting. I find the FLSM piano roll the closest to NS2 of any on iOS. 🤷🏽♂️
How come? Changing octaves without changing the start position is a nightmare in FLSM. In NS2 there are handles for each action...
@jwmmakerofmusic Love your positivity man. FLSM is really getting there,
This is a fair and valid point. This is what I wrote above...
While I didn't initially specify why FLSM's GUI was cumbersome, one of the reasons was having to move my hands around a lot on my M1 iPad Pro's 12.9" screen to do everything. By this, I mean I have to move my hands around a lot more in FLSM than other apps like Gadget and NS2 on the 12.9" screen. NS2 requires the least amount of iPad screen movement due to its handles. In other words...I don't have to reach towards the middle of my screen as often in NS2 as I do in FLSM.
But on the iPhone, trying to move notes on a small screen is pretty easy in FLSM. I just highlight what I want to move up or down an octave, zoom in to a comfortable view (that's the key here), then move them. Ironically it's more cumbersome to move the notes up and down an octave in NS2 due to the fact the handles to easily move up and down an octave aren't present in the iPhone version as they are on the iPad version! 😵💫
(Then again, since Lofi is a genre where most notes aren't quantised in the first place, not being able to reposition the notes exactly where I had them when switching octaves helps add to the randomness of the "live performance" feel.)
So in conclusion, I do like FLSM more than NS2 on the iPhone, although NS2 will always be king for me on the iPad.
Cheers mate.
Yes, within the span of a day, I made this in FLSM...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/em4aerfyhqu8ms9/JWM - FLSM Testing-converted.m4a?dl=0
Of course I mastered it in AUM to add the Lofi effects and of course MagicDeathEyeStereo and NoLimits. I heard that AUv3 is on the FLSM roadmap, which will be awesome in many ways, but I'm kind of hoping IL will add SoundGoodizer into FLSM at some point if it's at all possible. I could record about 3 minutes of vinyl crackle from NeedlePoint or Lo-fi-af in AUM to use as a soundscape in an audio track in FLSM. Then I could add a little soft clipping saturation and bitcrushing to taste on FLSM's master track, add SoundGoodizer, and then the Analyser to detect what the LUFS levels are to get the mix between -15LuFS and -14LuFS.
@jwmmakerofmusic
when you tap “more” after tapping a note you’ve added, what options do you get? (I was about to post a few screenshots, re: piano roll note options and I realized some of what I see may still be in beta.)
Looking here at “changing octaves” of notes, which i take to mean transposing…
Meanwhile thanks for your posts about FLSM, it’s good to see someone looking at the latest release with an open mind, and pushing it around, making demands, and making some cool music
I’m sure there will be an update out whenever it’s ready. 😶
While I don't see "changing octaves", I do see "transpose by..." which seems to transpose by semitones! Super useful, and I didn't know that existed. WAIT, there's a "humanise" function?!? 😵💫 That'll make creating my Lofi beats a billion times easier! Holy shit that's awesome!
Of course mate.
I discounted it for so long, and yet it's absolutely powerful and amazing, and thanks to you I've discovered a hack that'll make imperfections easier to achieve without having to adjust notes off grid one by one!
Yep, whenever it's ready.
@jwmmakerofmusic
this is what i’m seeing, hopefully i’m not overstepping the NDA. Some redundancy: 2 ways to transpose, one is entering a numerical value the other those nice arrows.
And the piano roll leaves a ghost note for where you started from- which will be visible along with any ghost notes from your other clips
fun extras- guess scale, snap to scale…