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  • GavinskiGavinski

    Yes, they are very intelligently thought out!

  • ToastedghostToastedghost

    @waka_x said:
    got also TEMP now.
    its very very good too- you can controll everything in depth.
    even the clock speed for a step...

    TEMP is less cryptic than LATCH. just so you know ...:)
    but if you play with both and read the screenshots brief docs on his page
    its quite logical:)

    Thanks for the description, which do you prefer, and do I need both?

  • waka_xwaka_x
    edited December 2022

    Toasted:
    hard to answer.
    TEMP is less experimental - more sequencer like
    LATCH is more experimental/wild/modulation oriented/playable live - more instrument-like

    I hope the coder will post more examples
    so ppl will be able to decide...

  • KrupaKrupa

    There’s some interesting reaktor based articles on the devs blog, worth a dig if you’re into modular stuff…

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited December 2022

    @waka_x said:
    Toasted:
    hard to answer.
    TEMP is less experimental - more sequencer like
    LATCH is more experimental/wild/modulation oriented/playable live - more instrument-like

    I hope the coder will post more examples
    so ppl will be able to decide...

    @waka_x have you figured out how to change the speed of cc automation? You can change the range but I can't see how to change the speed. Maybe the clock times also affect the modulation but then that would also affect recorded loops' speed, which may not be desirable

  • enkayteeenkaytee
    edited December 2022

    @Gavinski said:

    @waka_x said:
    Toasted:
    hard to answer.
    TEMP is less experimental - more sequencer like
    LATCH is more experimental/wild/modulation oriented/playable live - more instrument-like

    I hope the coder will post more examples
    so ppl will be able to decide...

    @waka_x have you figured out how to change the speed of cc automation? You can change the range but I can't see how to change the speed. Maybe the clock times also affect the modulation but then that would also affect recorded loops' speed, which may not be desirable

    You have to stop the cc automation then use the left hand slider (in the cc section it acts as a 'lag'). Towards the top slows automation, towards the bottom speeds it up and it can't be changed if the automation is running. Same applies to range, bend and clock...

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @enkaytee said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @waka_x said:
    Toasted:
    hard to answer.
    TEMP is less experimental - more sequencer like
    LATCH is more experimental/wild/modulation oriented/playable live - more instrument-like

    I hope the coder will post more examples
    so ppl will be able to decide...

    @waka_x have you figured out how to change the speed of cc automation? You can change the range but I can't see how to change the speed. Maybe the clock times also affect the modulation but then that would also affect recorded loops' speed, which may not be desirable

    You have to stop the cc automation then use the left hand slider (in the cc section it acts as a 'lag'). Towards the top slows automation, towards the bottom speeds it up and it can't be changed if the automation is running. Same applies to range, bend and clock...

    Yes - I think what threw me was that it couldn’t be changed if automation was running, figured it out eventually, cheers Nige! Do you like this? And have you compared to his other one?

  • enkayteeenkaytee

    @Gavinski said:

    @enkaytee said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @waka_x said:
    Toasted:
    hard to answer.
    TEMP is less experimental - more sequencer like
    LATCH is more experimental/wild/modulation oriented/playable live - more instrument-like

    I hope the coder will post more examples
    so ppl will be able to decide...

    @waka_x have you figured out how to change the speed of cc automation? You can change the range but I can't see how to change the speed. Maybe the clock times also affect the modulation but then that would also affect recorded loops' speed, which may not be desirable

    You have to stop the cc automation then use the left hand slider (in the cc section it acts as a 'lag'). Towards the top slows automation, towards the bottom speeds it up and it can't be changed if the automation is running. Same applies to range, bend and clock...

    Yes - I think what threw me was that it couldn’t be changed if automation was running, figured it out eventually, cheers Nige! Do you like this? And have you compared to his other one?

    I'm liking it a lot - haven't sprung for TEMP (yet...!) It's been an expensive week...

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @enkaytee @waka_x seems like panning messages (cc10) are only being sent out on channel 1, but not, for example, channel 2 and 3. Could either of you confirm?

  • enkayteeenkaytee

    @Gavinski said:
    @enkaytee @waka_x seems like panning messages (cc10) are only being sent out on channel 1, but not, for example, channel 2 and 3. Could either of you confirm?

    Bedtime here - will check in the morning...!

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @enkaytee said:

    @Gavinski said:
    @enkaytee @waka_x seems like panning messages (cc10) are only being sent out on channel 1, but not, for example, channel 2 and 3. Could either of you confirm?

    Bedtime here - will check in the morning...!

    No worries - I also tried with midi lfos actually - this may be an AUM issue. I can only get the panning knobs to pan from cc messages in AUM when they are receiving on channel 1, they don’t seem able to receive on other channels, strange…

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Problem solved

  • ToastedghostToastedghost
    edited December 2022

    @Gavinski said:
    Problem solved

    What caused the block? and…
    In your expert oppion would this suit a live experimentalist performer?
    As this might be a late xmas pressie for myself.
    Cheers

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Problem solved

    What caused the block? and…
    In your expert oppion would this suit a live experimentalist performer?
    As this might be a late xmas pressie for myself.
    Cheers

    It was me not being used to the way AUM handles midi control a bit differently from before - I usually just send all midi on channel 1 so am not used to the way AUM deals with multi channels of midi sources. Anyway, nothing to do with Latch. I wouldn’t consider myself that much of an expert but I definitely think Latch is potentially excellent for live experimental performance as long as you set up your AUM sessions properly first. It has no preset saving though and won’t run properly in the background - it will still make sound but the sequence will freeze at the last played notes til you go back to it. I also had a few crashes while playing with cc sliders in Latch. Still, as long as you think things through properly in advance and get used to it I reckon you could do some wicked live performances of drone / soundscape ambient etc.

  • ToastedghostToastedghost

    @Gavinski said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Problem solved

    What caused the block? and…
    In your expert oppion would this suit a live experimentalist performer?
    As this might be a late xmas pressie for myself.
    Cheers

    It was me not being used to the way AUM handles midi control a bit differently from before - I usually just send all midi on channel 1 so am not used to the way AUM deals with multi channels of midi sources. Anyway, nothing to do with Latch. I wouldn’t consider myself that much of an expert but I definitely think Latch is potentially excellent for live experimental performance as long as you set up your AUM sessions properly first. It has no preset saving though and won’t run properly in the background - it will still make sound but the sequence will freeze at the last played notes til you go back to it. I also had a few crashes while playing with cc sliders in Latch. Still, as long as you think things through properly in advance and get used to it I reckon you could do some wicked live performances of drone / soundscape ambient etc.

    Will it not save its states in AUM as a preset, inside AUM itself?

  • enkayteeenkaytee
    edited December 2022

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Problem solved

    What caused the block? and…
    In your expert oppion would this suit a live experimentalist performer?
    As this might be a late xmas pressie for myself.
    Cheers

    It was me not being used to the way AUM handles midi control a bit differently from before - I usually just send all midi on channel 1 so am not used to the way AUM deals with multi channels of midi sources. Anyway, nothing to do with Latch. I wouldn’t consider myself that much of an expert but I definitely think Latch is potentially excellent for live experimental performance as long as you set up your AUM sessions properly first. It has no preset saving though and won’t run properly in the background - it will still make sound but the sequence will freeze at the last played notes til you go back to it. I also had a few crashes while playing with cc sliders in Latch. Still, as long as you think things through properly in advance and get used to it I reckon you could do some wicked live performances of drone / soundscape ambient etc.

    Will it not save its states in AUM as a preset, inside AUM itself?

    It's not an AU or IAA plugin - it only runs standalone and sends midi to devices that can be internal (like AUM or a synth running standalone) or external hardware. It's not hosted in AUM or any other iOS DAW so state saving isn't an option.

  • enkayteeenkaytee

    @Gavinski said:
    Problem solved

    Nice one...!

  • ToastedghostToastedghost

    @enkaytee said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Problem solved

    What caused the block? and…
    In your expert oppion would this suit a live experimentalist performer?
    As this might be a late xmas pressie for myself.
    Cheers

    It was me not being used to the way AUM handles midi control a bit differently from before - I usually just send all midi on channel 1 so am not used to the way AUM deals with multi channels of midi sources. Anyway, nothing to do with Latch. I wouldn’t consider myself that much of an expert but I definitely think Latch is potentially excellent for live experimental performance as long as you set up your AUM sessions properly first. It has no preset saving though and won’t run properly in the background - it will still make sound but the sequence will freeze at the last played notes til you go back to it. I also had a few crashes while playing with cc sliders in Latch. Still, as long as you think things through properly in advance and get used to it I reckon you could do some wicked live performances of drone / soundscape ambient etc.

    Will it not save its states in AUM as a preset, inside AUM itself?

    It's not an AU or IAA plugin - it only runs standalone and sends midi to devices that can be internal (like AUM or a synth running standalone) or external hardware. It's not hosted in AUM or any other iOS DAW so state saving isn't an option.

    Gottcha, I see. No state saving might hold off for a bit since performing live I like to have my set sorted before stepping out. The only thing I could do is hours before the gig have it setup on my ipad to the required dials etc.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Toastedghost said:

    @enkaytee said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Problem solved

    What caused the block? and…
    In your expert oppion would this suit a live experimentalist performer?
    As this might be a late xmas pressie for myself.
    Cheers

    It was me not being used to the way AUM handles midi control a bit differently from before - I usually just send all midi on channel 1 so am not used to the way AUM deals with multi channels of midi sources. Anyway, nothing to do with Latch. I wouldn’t consider myself that much of an expert but I definitely think Latch is potentially excellent for live experimental performance as long as you set up your AUM sessions properly first. It has no preset saving though and won’t run properly in the background - it will still make sound but the sequence will freeze at the last played notes til you go back to it. I also had a few crashes while playing with cc sliders in Latch. Still, as long as you think things through properly in advance and get used to it I reckon you could do some wicked live performances of drone / soundscape ambient etc.

    Will it not save its states in AUM as a preset, inside AUM itself?

    It's not an AU or IAA plugin - it only runs standalone and sends midi to devices that can be internal (like AUM or a synth running standalone) or external hardware. It's not hosted in AUM or any other iOS DAW so state saving isn't an option.

    Gottcha, I see. No state saving might hold off for a bit since performing live I like to have my set sorted before stepping out. The only thing I could do is hours before the gig have it setup on my ipad to the required dials etc.

    Yeah lack of any preset system is quite a mind-blowing omission. Still love it tho

  • enkayteeenkaytee

    @Toastedghost said:

    @enkaytee said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Problem solved

    What caused the block? and…
    In your expert oppion would this suit a live experimentalist performer?
    As this might be a late xmas pressie for myself.
    Cheers

    It was me not being used to the way AUM handles midi control a bit differently from before - I usually just send all midi on channel 1 so am not used to the way AUM deals with multi channels of midi sources. Anyway, nothing to do with Latch. I wouldn’t consider myself that much of an expert but I definitely think Latch is potentially excellent for live experimental performance as long as you set up your AUM sessions properly first. It has no preset saving though and won’t run properly in the background - it will still make sound but the sequence will freeze at the last played notes til you go back to it. I also had a few crashes while playing with cc sliders in Latch. Still, as long as you think things through properly in advance and get used to it I reckon you could do some wicked live performances of drone / soundscape ambient etc.

    Will it not save its states in AUM as a preset, inside AUM itself?

    It's not an AU or IAA plugin - it only runs standalone and sends midi to devices that can be internal (like AUM or a synth running standalone) or external hardware. It's not hosted in AUM or any other iOS DAW so state saving isn't an option.

    Gottcha, I see. No state saving might hold off for a bit since performing live I like to have my set sorted before stepping out. The only thing I could do is hours before the gig have it setup on my ipad to the required dials etc.

    The current settings (scale, output channels, modulations etc.) are all saved on exit so that might be an option?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @enkaytee said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @enkaytee said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Toastedghost said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Problem solved

    What caused the block? and…
    In your expert oppion would this suit a live experimentalist performer?
    As this might be a late xmas pressie for myself.
    Cheers

    It was me not being used to the way AUM handles midi control a bit differently from before - I usually just send all midi on channel 1 so am not used to the way AUM deals with multi channels of midi sources. Anyway, nothing to do with Latch. I wouldn’t consider myself that much of an expert but I definitely think Latch is potentially excellent for live experimental performance as long as you set up your AUM sessions properly first. It has no preset saving though and won’t run properly in the background - it will still make sound but the sequence will freeze at the last played notes til you go back to it. I also had a few crashes while playing with cc sliders in Latch. Still, as long as you think things through properly in advance and get used to it I reckon you could do some wicked live performances of drone / soundscape ambient etc.

    Will it not save its states in AUM as a preset, inside AUM itself?

    It's not an AU or IAA plugin - it only runs standalone and sends midi to devices that can be internal (like AUM or a synth running standalone) or external hardware. It's not hosted in AUM or any other iOS DAW so state saving isn't an option.

    Gottcha, I see. No state saving might hold off for a bit since performing live I like to have my set sorted before stepping out. The only thing I could do is hours before the gig have it setup on my ipad to the required dials etc.

    The current settings (scale, output channels, modulations etc.) are all saved on exit so that might be an option?

    Yes, not the best one, but it is an option

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Also, you could set up all your aum sessions with the same cc numbers sending out data from latch, and keep a list to keep track of what is triggering what. Not ideal, but possible.

  • SynthiSynthi

    I keep looking at SQSL apps… I see there is a new update 1.2 with lots of new features , it’s really an improvement? Any comments from Latch users? Thanks!

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Synthi said:
    I keep looking at SQSL apps… I see there is a new update 1.2 with lots of new features , it’s really an improvement? Any comments from Latch users? Thanks!

    I just recently bought Latch and really enjoy it but I think I bought it after that update so I can’t compare to how it was before.

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