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Dark spot on iPad screen

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  • GLaceyGLacey

    @dontbanmebro said:

    Second silliest post on this thread so far. You boys need to understand that if you've got a pro it's doing screen refreshing at 60 fps which makes the batteries drain sooner even if you're not using any intensive apps. If you have apps running in the background and you leave them on while the ipad is plugged in, and you're using dodgy cables and chargers, you're going to get excessive heat. It doesn't mean that one spot is going to be warmer than others, it means there is more electrical energy being used over time which is burning the LCD screen in that area.

    My recommendation is pay someone to replace the screen and then try to replace the ipad. Take it back to apple for a buy back and exchange it for a newer one and don't get the pros because the screen refresh rate, while seemingly a nice feature, comes with baggage.

    The higher screen refresh rate (which is 120 Hz, not 60 ) might consumes more power, but that difference is responsible for only a minor part of the total consumption.
    What does really matter is the screen brightness and the CPU load according to my experience. There’s a big difference in battery drain and heat between watching yotube or using CPU intensive apps.
    When I charge the iPad or use CPU intensive apps (or both) there are areas which are warmer and areas which are cooler.
    Why is it a silly post? Someone mentioned here that the defective battery cause overheating which kills the background light LED(s).
    The reason I’m asking the guys whether they notice the display is hotter around the dark spot is to help me indentify the issue in time before the LED(s) die. It’s easier and much cheaper to replace the battery than buying a new iPad Pro.

  • R_2R_2

    I got the same model iPad…
    Found identical reports: https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/10b5ban/dark_spot_on_ipad_pro_2021_more_info_in_comments/

    @BillS @oddSTAR In landscape with usb on left side, is the spot at the top or bottom?

  • BillSBillS
    edited August 2023

    @R_2 said:
    I got the same model iPad…
    Found identical reports: https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/10b5ban/dark_spot_on_ipad_pro_2021_more_info_in_comments/

    @BillS @oddSTAR In landscape with usb on left side, is the spot at the top or bottom?

    The spot is at the top of the screen (camera at the bottom). And it’s obviously quite a common fault looking at that link. Too bad mine took over two years before it started and was out of warranty. Guess next time I purchase I’ll have to take out Apple Care.

  • R_2R_2

    @BillS said:
    Too bad mine took over two years before it started and was out of warranty. Guess next time I purchase I’ll have to take out Apple Care.

    AppleCare for iPad is limited to 2 years in my country :s

  • BillSBillS

    @R_2 said:

    @BillS said:
    Too bad mine took over two years before it started and was out of warranty. Guess next time I purchase I’ll have to take out Apple Care.

    AppleCare for iPad is limited to 2 years in my country :s

    I think you can buy a monthly plan that continues for as long as you pay it. I might be wrong, but that’s how I read it - I’d be surprised if this was country dependent but it might be. It’s £8 a month in the UK for 12.9” Pro.

    https://www.apple.com/uk/support/products/ipad/

  • R_2R_2
    edited August 2023

    @BillS said:

    @R_2 said:

    @BillS said:
    Too bad mine took over two years before it started and was out of warranty. Guess next time I purchase I’ll have to take out Apple Care.

    AppleCare for iPad is limited to 2 years in my country :s

    I think you can buy a monthly plan that continues for as long as you pay it. I might be wrong, but that’s how I read it - I’d be surprised if this was country dependent but it might be. It’s £8 a month in the UK for 12.9” Pro.

    https://www.apple.com/uk/support/products/ipad/

    Yeah, unfortunately monthly plan is country dependent.
    https://www.apple.com/nl/support/products/ipad/

  • dontbanmebrodontbanmebro

    @GLacey said:

    @dontbanmebro said:

    Second silliest post on this thread so far. You boys need to understand that if you've got a pro it's doing screen refreshing at 60 fps which makes the batteries drain sooner even if you're not using any intensive apps. If you have apps running in the background and you leave them on while the ipad is plugged in, and you're using dodgy cables and chargers, you're going to get excessive heat. It doesn't mean that one spot is going to be warmer than others, it means there is more electrical energy being used over time which is burning the LCD screen in that area.

    My recommendation is pay someone to replace the screen and then try to replace the ipad. Take it back to apple for a buy back and exchange it for a newer one and don't get the pros because the screen refresh rate, while seemingly a nice feature, comes with baggage.

    The higher screen refresh rate (which is 120 Hz, not 60 ) might consumes more power, but that difference is responsible for only a minor part of the total consumption.
    What does really matter is the screen brightness and the CPU load according to my experience. There’s a big difference in battery drain and heat between watching yotube or using CPU intensive apps.
    When I charge the iPad or use CPU intensive apps (or both) there are areas which are warmer and areas which are cooler.
    Why is it a silly post? Someone mentioned here that the defective battery cause overheating which kills the background light LED(s).
    The reason I’m asking the guys whether they notice the display is hotter around the dark spot is to help me indentify the issue in time before the LED(s) die. It’s easier and much cheaper to replace the battery than buying a new iPad Pro.

    Have you ever watched an iPad or iPhone tear down video? Those things are complex and intentionally designed so that parts cannot be swapped. Anyway a problem in one area cascades to other areas. Swapping out the battery is a silly idea. Replacing the screen for cosmetic reasons and selling it to the highest bidder and getting a new device is a more sensible one.

  • GLaceyGLacey

    @dontbanmebro said:

    @GLacey said:

    @dontbanmebro said:

    Second silliest post on this thread so far. You boys need to understand that if you've got a pro it's doing screen refreshing at 60 fps which makes the batteries drain sooner even if you're not using any intensive apps. If you have apps running in the background and you leave them on while the ipad is plugged in, and you're using dodgy cables and chargers, you're going to get excessive heat. It doesn't mean that one spot is going to be warmer than others, it means there is more electrical energy being used over time which is burning the LCD screen in that area.

    My recommendation is pay someone to replace the screen and then try to replace the ipad. Take it back to apple for a buy back and exchange it for a newer one and don't get the pros because the screen refresh rate, while seemingly a nice feature, comes with baggage.

    The higher screen refresh rate (which is 120 Hz, not 60 ) might consumes more power, but that difference is responsible for only a minor part of the total consumption.
    What does really matter is the screen brightness and the CPU load according to my experience. There’s a big difference in battery drain and heat between watching yotube or using CPU intensive apps.
    When I charge the iPad or use CPU intensive apps (or both) there are areas which are warmer and areas which are cooler.
    Why is it a silly post? Someone mentioned here that the defective battery cause overheating which kills the background light LED(s).
    The reason I’m asking the guys whether they notice the display is hotter around the dark spot is to help me indentify the issue in time before the LED(s) die. It’s easier and much cheaper to replace the battery than buying a new iPad Pro.

    Have you ever watched an iPad or iPhone tear down video? Those things are complex and intentionally designed so that parts cannot be swapped. Anyway a problem in one area cascades to other areas. Swapping out the battery is a silly idea. Replacing the screen for cosmetic reasons and selling it to the highest bidder and getting a new device is a more sensible one.

    I checked the price lists of some local repair shops:
    iPad Pro 2021 display swap: 320-350 EUR
    Battery swap: 100-120 EUR
    It’s difficult task probably, but doesn’t seem to be impossible for a skilled technician

    So the math looks like this:
    Swap the display for 320, sell the whole thing for lets say 600 and buy a new one for 1100 (M2 256GB in Europe) that’s around 800 EUR net cost in total.
    vs.
    replacing the faulty battery (before it damages the screen*) for 100-120 EUR.
    *assuming the battery causes the issue. I just wanted to get this confirmed by the guys here. I don’t think I should apologize for the ‘silly’ need to identify the route cause and find out how to avoid it.

    I agree though that getting a new device is always a cleaner and better option if the cost is not an issue.

  • dontbanmebrodontbanmebro

    @GLacey said:

    @dontbanmebro said:

    @GLacey said:

    @dontbanmebro said:

    Second silliest post on this thread so far. You boys need to understand that if you've got a pro it's doing screen refreshing at 60 fps which makes the batteries drain sooner even if you're not using any intensive apps. If you have apps running in the background and you leave them on while the ipad is plugged in, and you're using dodgy cables and chargers, you're going to get excessive heat. It doesn't mean that one spot is going to be warmer than others, it means there is more electrical energy being used over time which is burning the LCD screen in that area.

    My recommendation is pay someone to replace the screen and then try to replace the ipad. Take it back to apple for a buy back and exchange it for a newer one and don't get the pros because the screen refresh rate, while seemingly a nice feature, comes with baggage.

    The higher screen refresh rate (which is 120 Hz, not 60 ) might consumes more power, but that difference is responsible for only a minor part of the total consumption.
    What does really matter is the screen brightness and the CPU load according to my experience. There’s a big difference in battery drain and heat between watching yotube or using CPU intensive apps.
    When I charge the iPad or use CPU intensive apps (or both) there are areas which are warmer and areas which are cooler.
    Why is it a silly post? Someone mentioned here that the defective battery cause overheating which kills the background light LED(s).
    The reason I’m asking the guys whether they notice the display is hotter around the dark spot is to help me indentify the issue in time before the LED(s) die. It’s easier and much cheaper to replace the battery than buying a new iPad Pro.

    Have you ever watched an iPad or iPhone tear down video? Those things are complex and intentionally designed so that parts cannot be swapped. Anyway a problem in one area cascades to other areas. Swapping out the battery is a silly idea. Replacing the screen for cosmetic reasons and selling it to the highest bidder and getting a new device is a more sensible one.

    I checked the price lists of some local repair shops:
    iPad Pro 2021 display swap: 320-350 EUR
    Battery swap: 100-120 EUR
    It’s difficult task probably, but doesn’t seem to be impossible for a skilled technician

    So the math looks like this:
    Swap the display for 320, sell the whole thing for lets say 600 and buy a new one for 1100 (M2 256GB in Europe) that’s around 800 EUR net cost in total.
    vs.
    replacing the faulty battery (before it damages the screen*) for 100-120 EUR.
    *assuming the battery causes the issue. I just wanted to get this confirmed by the guys here. I don’t think I should apologize for the ‘silly’ need to identify the route cause and find out how to avoid it.

    I agree though that getting a new device is always a cleaner and better option if the cost is not an issue.

    You're forgetting that swapping the battery might not actually be the problem, maybe it's the power source... No one will know which for certain which is why Apple will often just take any device so long as it looks good no questions asked, tear it down totally and use it for parts, and pay you for the value of the parts.

    In any case you will still need to replace the screen if you don't want to look at those blemishes.

  • BillSBillS

    For those who are trying to establish the cause of this problem, the thing for me to highlight is that this problem is intermittent in my case. As I type this, there is absolutely NO dark spot - my screen is perfect. This hasn’t been the case for maybe a week - and I expect it will reappear later!

  • mistercharliemistercharlie

    @dontbanmebro said:
    You boys need to understand that if you've got a pro it's doing screen refreshing at 60 fps which makes the batteries drain sooner even if you're not using any intensive apps.

    The ProMotion 120Hz screen uses less energy, not more. It spins up to full speed when required, but when nothing is moving, it drops down to just 10Hz. And for movies it can run at 24 Hz, or 24fps. This is how the iPhone Pro and the Apple Watch manage to have always-on displays without ruining battery life.

    Also

    You boys need to understand

    Plenty of non-boys on this forum too.

  • oddSTARoddSTAR
    edited August 2023

    Just wanted to check back in and say that Apple (via Best Buy) replaced my unit which was under Limited Warranty status. I'm happy--but it's a little bit of a mixed blessing since I restored a backup but now have 500+ music apps to go check and may have lost a couple that are no longer in the App Store. Kinda hoped they'd fix mine but glad to have it resolved. C'est la vie!

  • BillSBillS

    @oddSTAR great result, pleased for you!

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