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Bundle Of Joy

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  • @Paulieworld said:
    https://paulieworld.bandcamp.com/track/bundle-of-joy

    Looks like the embed player isn't working.
    Sorry bout that.

    It opened up a new Tab and shoved me in it... it took me almost an hour to find the forum again. Getting old sucks. I forget why but I'm sure it does.

    Oh yeah... I was going to listen to your music. Don't wait up.

  • @McD said:

    @Paulieworld said:
    https://paulieworld.bandcamp.com/track/bundle-of-joy

    Looks like the embed player isn't working.
    Sorry bout that.

    It opened up a new Tab and shoved me in it... it took me almost an hour to find the forum again. Getting old sucks. I forget why but I'm sure it does.

    Oh yeah... I was going to listen to your music. Don't wait up.

    Okey dokey.

  • @Paulieworld said:

    @McD said:

    @Paulieworld said:
    https://paulieworld.bandcamp.com/track/bundle-of-joy

    Looks like the embed player isn't working.
    Sorry bout that.

    It opened up a new Tab and shoved me in it... it took me almost an hour to find the forum again. Getting old sucks. I forget why but I'm sure it does.

    Oh yeah... I was going to listen to your music. Don't wait up.

    Okey dokey.

    I suspect this might be a case where I needed to use a humor font. My bad. Humor
    is a tricky business.

  • McDMcD
    edited November 2021

    Holu crap... this track is epic! How did you make it? Did you play any or all of the instruments? It's like Weather Report meets Vulpeck. Did you play the guitar part?

    I had to check and now I see that you're the Flight of the Bumblebee guy which was
    also pretty epic but in an entirely different way.

    Please get Staffpad... then show me how it's done using that alternative "DAW" method.
    The pencil is good for other things like... a... getting out ear wax.

    "Alex, I'll take ear wax removal for $100." (this is a joke).

    And thanks for the SoundCloud embed. There's a lot of great music on your
    stream. I'm proud to be your second follower.

    Are you a studio cat in Nashville... serious chops in evidence.

  • McDMcD
    edited November 2021

    Wow... this one starts out like Doobie Brothers "Ol' Black Water" but then Tosin Abasi sits it and all hell breaks loose. I love mixing genres!

    Guitar lovers must investigate and "Follow".

  • @Paulieworld. Amazing. I’m interested in the instrument break down too.

  • @McD said:
    Holu crap... this track is epic! How did you make it? Did you play any or all of the instruments? It's like Weather Report meets Vulpeck. Did you play the guitar part?

    Weather Report and Vulfpeck! Two of my favorites. I actually met Weather Report years ago. Me and a buddy walked around back after the show and Peter Erskine invited us in to help eat all the food. I was surprised nobody else was there. Jaco was one weird dude! He was stoned to the bone and juggling apples. I used to think I was a pretty good bass player until I heard "Teen Town". Speaking of that, have you heard "Dean Town" by Vulfpeck? Those guys are GREAT, and hilarious!

    @Ben is interested in the workflow, so I'll try to talk about that in my response to him.

    I had to check and now I see that you're the Flight of the Bumblebee guy which was
    also pretty epic but in an entirely different way.

    Look... up in the sky... it's Bumblebee Guy!

    Please get Staffpad... then show me how it's done using that alternative "DAW" method.
    The pencil is good for other things like... a... getting out ear wax.

    "Alex, I'll take ear wax removal for $100." (this is a joke).

    Ear wax removal? That's a great idea! My wife might actually approve of that. Thanks for the tip.

    And thanks for the SoundCloud embed. There's a lot of great music on your
    stream. I'm proud to be your second follower.

    Actually, you're my first follower. Amy Thompson is a bot. I prefer Bandcamp and hope you can follow me there.

    Are you a studio cat in Nashville... serious chops in evidence.

    I hope to retire there soon. I love Nashville. The Grand Ole Opry is the BEST. We saw Roy Clark shortly before he passed. Speaking of passing, I was very sad to hear that Pat Martino died a few days ago. He had quite a life story!

  • @Ben said:
    @Paulieworld. Amazing. I’m interested in the instrument break down too.

    Thanks for listening! I posted that one on Fourth of July, so I probably had few cold pops in me at the time. I think I used something from iSymphonic for the fiddle part, or maybe Finger Fiddle or Thumbjam. The guitar parts were probably MIDI Strummer and a few other apps with acoustic guitar patches. I'm sure I also used some samples from Blocs Wave or Launchpad. I render everything to WAV files with all effects in place. This cuts down on the CPU usage and allows me to use a lot more tracks. The downside to this approach is that I completely lose track of what I'm doing. I should probably do a better job of documenting things but I never seem to get around to it.

  • It’s brilliant, I love your track !!
    You can be proud of this one 👍

  • @Paulo164 Thank you so much! This was inspired by my adopted 6 year old niece. She is a bundle of joy and I am so proud of her!

  • Just before clicking on « play », I told to myself « this little girl looks adorable ! » 😌
    I was wondering if she was related to the song. Now I understand…

  • Really cool track!

  • Another great track @Paulieworld . I’ve read your explanations as to how you do your pieces but must admit to still not really understanding it. Doesn’t matter at all though… you’ve created a pretty unique sound world for yourself and it a good one.

  • @Dav Thanks for listening and commenting! I was sort of hoping you might weigh in on 'Cheater Gunsmoke' from a few weeks ago. It has a muted trumpet part that I spent way too much time on, but I think it turned out OK.

  • @GeoTony Thank you so much! I admit, my workflow (playflow) is pretty strange. I doubt that most iPad creators would want to do things this way. It's not a very natural approach. I think most musicians have, at the very least, a basic idea of what they want to create when they start a new project. When I start something, I have absolutely no idea what I am doing. I just throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks. Then I arrange around it. Not really a recipe for success, but I am only doing this for the fun. I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • Holy smokes! This track is incredible. I had no idea really what to expect from the comments above, but it pretty much blew my mind. And through it all, feeling really inspired that it was all done on an iPad.

  • @Paulo164 said:
    Just before clicking on « play », I told to myself « this little girl looks adorable ! » 😌
    I was wondering if she was related to the song. Now I understand…

    I just checked out your avatar. Is he your bundle of joy? Handsome young man. You must be very proud!

  • @Paulieworld said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    Just before clicking on « play », I told to myself « this little girl looks adorable ! » 😌
    I was wondering if she was related to the song. Now I understand…

    I just checked out your avatar. Is he your bundle of joy? Handsome young man. You must be very proud!

    Yes, he is... Cut little boy, so kind and funny.

  • Another killer track Paul! Keep ‘em coming!

  • @Paulieworld said:
    @Dav Thanks for listening and commenting! I was sort of hoping you might weigh in on 'Cheater Gunsmoke' from a few weeks ago. It has a muted trumpet part that I spent way too much time on, but I think it turned out OK.

    I've been away and missed that post. Will sure listen to it...

    Dav

  • @peanut_gallery said:
    Holy smokes! This track is incredible. I had no idea really what to expect from the comments above, but it pretty much blew my mind. And through it all, feeling really inspired that it was all done on an iPad.

    Thank you very much!
    I think there may have been a higher power behind your post, for me at least.
    Be sure to keep getting your kids involved.
    It's a great hobby that all of you can enjoy for years to come.
    Every day with them is priceless.
    Never forget that!

  • @Edward_Alexander said:
    Another killer track Paul! Keep ‘em coming!

    Thanks Ed. I appreciate your thoughts!
    I have an 'interesting' one for next weekend.
    Hope you can check it out.
    It's pretty weird.

  • @Paulieworld What DAW do you use to assemble your works? The results are pretty stagginging. Is there a piano roll editor involved to trigger audio clips? Your projects have such a deep level of sync between elements... a "pocket" based groove.

    Inquiring minds want to know... you imply it's a lot of work and I suspect it is.

  • @McD said:
    @Paulieworld What DAW do you use to assemble your works? The results are pretty stagginging. Is there a piano roll editor involved to trigger audio clips? Your projects have such a deep level of sync between elements... a "pocket" based groove.

    Inquiring minds want to know... you imply it's a lot of work and I suspect it is.

    Thanks for asking! I think many would consider it to be a lot of work. I have no problem spending a week or more on a piece. Personally, I find it to be very relaxing and the time passes quickly while I'm doing it. Give me some time to put together something that makes sense. I will post it in one of your future pieces.

  • @Paulieworld said:
    Thanks for asking!

    It's my thing... steal tricks from masters of the arts. "Great Artists..." and so do the hacks.

    I think many would consider it to be a lot of work.

    True but we'll just steal the easy parts that are fun.

    I have no problem spending a week or more on a piece.

    I'm starting to see the benefit of the "flow" (deep state of engagement) that results with
    precision work where you add a small element and listen to accept or reject the change.
    For me this is happening in StaffPad with the handwriting input method but I could see how
    this could become a deeper process with a piano roll input method.

    Personally, I find it to be very relaxing and the time passes quickly while I'm doing it.

    That's a key result of reaching the flow state.

    Give me some time to put together something that makes sense.

    OK... clock's ticking. I don't have much more than a decade so don't dawdle.

    I will post it in one of your future pieces.

    What? Post here. Threads never die.

  • @McD said:

    @Paulieworld said:
    Thanks for asking!

    It's my thing... steal tricks from masters of the arts. "Great Artists..." and so do the hacks.

    I think many would consider it to be a lot of work.

    True but we'll just steal the easy parts that are fun.

    I have no problem spending a week or more on a piece.

    I'm starting to see the benefit of the "flow" (deep state of engagement) that results with
    precision work where you add a small element and listen to accept or reject the change.
    For me this is happening in StaffPad with the handwriting input method but I could see how
    this could become a deeper process with a piano roll input method.

    Personally, I find it to be very relaxing and the time passes quickly while I'm doing it.

    That's a key result of reaching the flow state.

    Give me some time to put together something that makes sense.

    OK... clock's ticking. I don't have much more than a decade so don't dawdle.

    I will post it in one of your future pieces.

    What? Post here. Threads never die.

    Ok. but first, you must bring me a shrubbery.

  • Choose your prize carefully... it does not end well. You will no longer be able to say "Ni".

    Scene 18: Shrubbery or Herring? That is the Question

    ARTHUR: O Knights of Ni, we have brought you your shrubbery. May we go now?

    HEAD KNIGHT: It is a good shrubbery. I like the laurels particularly,... but there is one small problem.

    ARTHUR: What is that?

    HEAD KNIGHT: We are now... no longer the Knights Who Say 'Ni'.

    KNIGHTS OF NI: Ni! Shh!

    HEAD KNIGHT: Shh! We are now the Knights Who Say 'Ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-pikang-zoop-boing-goodem-zu-owly-zhiv'.

    RANDOM: Ni!

    HEAD KNIGHT: Therefore, we must give you a test.

    ARTHUR: What is this test, O Knights of-- knights who till recently said 'ni'?

    HEAD KNIGHT: Firstly, you must find... another shrubbery!

    [dramatic chord]

    ARTHUR: Not another shrubbery!

    RANDOM: Ni!

    HEAD KNIGHT: Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get the two-level effect with a little path running down the middle.

    KNIGHTS OF NI: A path! A path! A path! Ni! Shh! Knights of Ni! Ni! Ni! Shh! Shh!...

    HEAD KNIGHT: Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest... with... a herring!

    [dramatic chord]

    KNIGHTS OF NI: A herring!

    ARTHUR: We shall do no such thing!

    HEAD KNIGHT: Oh, please!

    ARTHUR: Cut down a tree with a herring? It can't be done.

    KNIGHTS OF NI: Aaaaugh! Aaaugh!

    HEAD KNIGHT: Augh! Ohh! Don't say that word.

    ARTHUR: What word?

    HEAD KNIGHT: I cannot tell, suffice to say is one of the words the Knights of Ni cannot hear.

    ARTHUR: How can we not say the word if you don't tell us what it is?

    KNIGHTS OF NI: Aaaaugh!

    HEAD KNIGHT: You said it again!

    ARTHUR: What, 'is'?

    KNIGHTS OF NI: Agh! No, not 'is'.

    HEAD KNIGHT: No, not 'is'. You wouldn't get vary far in life not saying 'is'.

    KNIGHTS OF NI: No, not 'is'. Not 'is'.

    BEDEVERE: My liege, it's Sir Robin!

    MINSTREL: [singing]

    He is packing it in and packing it up And sneaking away and buggering up And chickening out and pissing off home, Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge.

    ARTHUR: Sir Robin!

    ROBIN: My liege! It's good to see you.

    HEAD KNIGHT: Now he's said the word!

    ARTHUR: Surely you've not given up your quest for the Holy Grail?

    MINSTREL: [singing] He is sneaking away and buggering up--

    ROBIN: Shut up! No, no. No. Far from it.

    HEAD KNIGHT: He said the word again!

    KNIGHTS OF NI: Aaaaugh!

    ROBIN: I was looking for it.

    KNIGHTS OF NI: Aaaaugh!

    ROBIN: Uh, here-- here in this forest.

    ARTHUR: No, it is far from this place.

    KNIGHTS OF NI: Aaaaugh!

    HEAD KNIGHT: Aaaaugh! Stop saying the word! The word...

    ARTHUR: Oh, stop it!

    HEAD KNIGHT: ...we cannot hear! Ow! He said it again!

    ARTHUR: Patsy!

    HEAD KNIGHT: Wait! I said it! I said it!

    [clop clop clop]

    Ooh! I said it again! And there again! That's three 'it's! Ohh!

    KNIGHTS OF NI: Aaaaugh!... Narrative Interlude

    NARRATOR: And so, Arthur and Bedevere and Sir Robin set out on their search to find the enchanter of whom the old man had spoken in scene twenty-four. Beyond the forest, they met Lancelot and Galahad, and there was much rejoicing.

    KNIGHTS: Yay! Yay!

    [whoosh]

    NARRATOR: In the frozen land of Nador, they were forced to eat Robin's minstrels.

    MINSTREL: [high-pitched] Get back! Eee!

    NARRATOR: And there was much rejoicing.

    KNIGHTS: Yay!

    NARRATOR: A year passed.

    CARTOON CHARACTER: [shivering]

    NARRATOR: Winter changed into Spring.

    CARTOON CHARACTER: Mmm, nice.

    NARRATOR: Spring changed into Summer.

    CARTOON CHARACTER: Oh. Ahh.

    NARRATOR: Summer changed back into Winter,...

    CARTOON CHARACTER: Oh?

    NARRATOR: ...and Winter gave Spring and Summer a miss and went straight on into Autumn.

    CARTOON CHARACTER: Aah.

    [snap]

    Oh! Waa!

    NARRATOR: Until one day...

  • I don't mean to bump this, but @McD was interested in my process and I'm finally getting around to responding. By the way, thanks for the shrubbery!

    I use Cubasis 2 for everything. I work exclusively with audio tracks. I found that MIDI data and multiple effects on a lot of tracks causes the processor to struggle with the load.

    I use a mix of commercial, royalty-free material, and samples that I make myself. Ampify has a lot of good material for a great price. You can get several dozen quality samples in a sound pack for $1.99. They also have frequent sales where everything is half off. In general, the internet has an endless supply of material there for the taking. I will use anything I can get my hands on to make music.

    When I make my own samples, I start with a MIDI sequence that I create using the built-in editor in Cubasis. Traditional staff notation would be ideal, but the technology isn't quite there yet. StaffPad, Notion, and Dorico are pretty close, though. I also use a lot of different apps that generate random MIDI data in a specified key or scale. Those will always need to be tweaked in the editor.

    When I have a sequence that I like, I route it to different synths until I find one that sounds good to me. Then I add the effects. I have a ton of special effects but I always seem to come back to the Channel Strip, StudioEQ, Reverb, Chorus, and Delay that come with Cubasis. One exception is Kosmonaut. I like that one a lot!

    At this point I use the Freeze function on the track. That renders everything to a straight WAV file but preserves the effects. Doing this cuts way down on the processor load. This is very important to me since I like to layer things. It's not uncommon to have 30-40 tracks of short bits and pieces. I like to put things on separate tracks because it eliminates the need for mixing at the end. Once I have frozen a track, I remove the routing to the synth so it's not sending any MIDI data. The downside to this is that I lose track of the synth apps that I used. I used to use the Notepad feature of the track, but I get lazy sometimes and forget. If I decide to change the instrument, I just unfreeze it and start over with a different synth app.

    I would like to give myself a little credit for coming up with a few good ideas from time to time. Everybody has their own way of making music. Some prefer to create spontaneously, and are extremely good at it. I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum. I'm a bit of a control freak when it comes to music. Inspector Clouseau once said, “Every move I make is carefully planned.” I aspire to be the Inspector Clouseau of iPad music production.

    This approach is sort of hard-wired into my brain due to my life experiences. I started music lessons and the age of 8 and was in my first band a few months later – The Junior Accordianaires. Since then I have been in one band or another for most of my life. To me, music is a structured group effort. When I create parts, I always think of it as a band, and try to imagine what other musicians would add to the mix.

    One last thing, I never wait for inspiration. I find that the inspiration comes when I stumble across something during the process. Basically, I just throw stuff at the wall to see what sticks, then I arrange around that.

    This is starting to ramble on, so I hope somebody found something useful here.

  • Glad you bumped this. Not sure exactly how you’re doing it. Are you playing the piano and sax parts, or are they loops you’re assembling? Either way, great job. You have a very good feeling for builds.

  • Thanks for the detailed explanation of process... the results speak well for your methods and discriminating ears. All great music is created by people that really, really listen and edit according
    to an informed aesthetic based upon years of listening to good music.

    What "good" means is typically also evident in the results... good metal, good jazz, good americana. etc.
    Then the audiences line up according to their preferences. I do like to jump from line to line and seek
    the quality productions in every genre. If I don't have strong opinions I seek for guidance from a confirmed aficionado of the genre and then seek to comprehend what makes it "good", or better yet,
    excellent.

    Your mixes of these sound sources sound excellent to me. The fact that you do this with Cubasis validates it as the premier IOS DAW... I hope there's a Black Friday event to push your over the edge to
    Cubasis 3 if you don't have it already.

    I hit frustrations early with Cubasis 2 and just moved into the world of AUM and only go back to collab
    with the @Linearlineman and make the leap to Cubasis 3. With a new MIDI keyboard arriving on Tuesday
    maybe I'll give it another run. Staffpad has shown me that small scale editing can pay big dividends over
    trying to improvise without the years of drills required to assemble music in realtime with 2 hands.
    Maybe improvising "parts" with one hand and editing out all the clams will be a good middle path.
    And mixing in "orchestral" tracks from Staffpad will also open new vistas for me.

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