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4pockets - PDF Manuals?

dpeacedpeace
in General App Discussion

While I acknowledge that it’s quite late for me to be doing this, I’m proposing to discover what all my 4pockets apps can do other than what my random experimentation has yielded.

I’d prefer to study the manuals on my Kindle as I use the apps, and wondered if there were PDF manuals available? I can’t see a way to export the in-app manuals, and 4pockets.com seems to be under maintenance.

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  • telechargetelecharge

    Have you tried printing to PDF from the help section?

    Also, check out this thread from the awesome @EdZAB - https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/63003/updated-4pockets-rough-guide-video-companion-docs-and-more#latest

  • uncledaveuncledave

    @telecharge said:
    Have you tried printing to PDF from the help section?

    Which 4Pockets apps allow printing from the help section? I only have a couple, and they display Help in a popup window inside the app, with no share icon, etc., only a Close button. Is there a trick to extracting the PDF text?

  • dpeacedpeace

    @telecharge said:
    Have you tried printing to PDF from the help section?

    Also, check out this thread from the awesome @EdZAB - https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/63003/updated-4pockets-rough-guide-video-companion-docs-and-more#latest

    While I can see no way to print to PDF, I’ll certainly take a look at that thread, for which thanks!

  • EdZABEdZAB

    Some of the newer 4Pockets apps (such as Midistep) have an option to export the manual as a PDF file, but for older 4Pockets apps without that feature, I would recommend reaching out to 4Pockets via email - Support @ 4Pockets.com (remove the spaces) and see what your options are. I’m sure Paul at 4Pockets is very busy with the impending release of the new Fontstack app, but he does respond to inquiries, in my experience.

    Thanks @telecharge 😀

    @dpeace - Fee free to hit me up if you have questions or need clarification, or find any errors. I’ve attempted to do the same thing you are, and it’s been tremendously fun. The official videos have been incredibly useful, but I find it difficult to refer back to specific items in the vids, so I started taking notes which could be searched, and it just kept going. I’d love to come across a question about a 4Pockets app that led me to something new and useful.

  • dpeacedpeace

    @dpeace - Fee free to hit me up if you have questions or need clarification, or find any errors. I’ve attempted to do the same thing you are, and it’s been tremendously fun. The official videos have been incredibly useful, but I find it difficult to refer back to specific items in the vids, so I started taking notes which could be searched, and it just kept going. I’d love to come across a question about a 4Pockets app that led me to something new and useful.

    Thanks. Appreciate the work you’ve put into these!

  • telechargetelecharge

    @uncledave said:

    @telecharge said:
    Have you tried printing to PDF from the help section?

    Which 4Pockets apps allow printing from the help section? I only have a couple, and they display Help in a popup window inside the app, with no share icon, etc., only a Close button. Is there a trick to extracting the PDF text?

    Sorry, Unc, I'm not familiar enough with the catalog to know which apps have export/print options. EdZAB answered better than I ever could.

    Are you familiar with the Live Text feature built into iOS? You can use it with screenshots to roll your own manual - https://support.apple.com/en-us/120004

  • uncledaveuncledave

    @telecharge said:

    @uncledave said:

    @telecharge said:
    Have you tried printing to PDF from the help section?

    Which 4Pockets apps allow printing from the help section? I only have a couple, and they display Help in a popup window inside the app, with no share icon, etc., only a Close button. Is there a trick to extracting the PDF text?

    Sorry, Unc, I'm not familiar enough with the catalog to know which apps have export/print options. EdZAB answered better than I ever could.

    Are you familiar with the Live Text feature built into iOS? You can use it with screenshots to roll your own manual - https://support.apple.com/en-us/120004

    You don't need Live Text to copy text from the screen manuals, and screenshot the graphics, but it's quite a lot of work. I've done this for Stringlab, since its functionality is pretty complex.

  • telechargetelecharge

    @uncledave To be clear, I was talking about using Live Text to extract text from screenshots (if necessary). In my experience, help sections are a lot like PDFs -- sometimes graphics, sometimes text, sometimes graphics made from text (screenshots, scans, etc.).

  • MrStochasticMrStochastic

    @dpeace said:
    I’d prefer to study the manuals on my Kindle as I use the apps, and wondered if there were PDF manuals available?

    I agree. Helium, for example, has a lot of depth but it's inconvenient to have to open up the help window in the app while I'm working on something. The videos are well done and thorough but impossible to easily find a particular thing I'm looking for.
    The manuals are written, it says, by David Collett. I'd think that he must have a PDF file stored that might be shared but I have no idea how to contact him. Do you have any idea, @EdZAB ?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @MrStochastic said:

    @dpeace said:
    I’d prefer to study the manuals on my Kindle as I use the apps, and wondered if there were PDF manuals available?

    I agree. Helium, for example, has a lot of depth but it's inconvenient to have to open up the help window in the app while I'm working on something. The videos are well done and thorough but impossible to easily find a particular thing I'm looking for.
    The manuals are written, it says, by David Collett. I'd think that he must have a PDF file stored that might be shared but I have no idea how to contact him. Do you have any idea, @EdZAB ?

    You really might want to contact Paul, the dev, I think. He really should make all these manuals available as PDFs. Drives me absolutely bonkers, personally, when manuals are only available in-app.

  • telechargetelecharge

    If memory serves, he prefers to be contacted through YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/PaultheMusicMan (4Pockets developer)

  • wimwim
    edited March 29

    Retype them yourself. It helps with memory retention.

    (just kidding, of course.)

  • telechargetelecharge

  • MrStochasticMrStochastic

    @wim said:
    Retype them yourself. It helps with memory retention.

    🤦🏼‍♂️

    @MrStochastic said:

    @dpeace said:
    I’d prefer to study the manuals on my Kindle as I use the apps, and wondered if there were PDF manuals available?

    I agree. Helium, for example, has a lot of depth but it's inconvenient to have to open up the help window in the app while I'm working on something. The videos are well done and thorough but impossible to easily find a particular thing I'm looking for.
    The manuals are written, it says, by David Collett. I'd think that he must have a PDF file stored that might be shared but I have no idea how to contact him.

    I just noticed that @dcollett has/had a presence here; maybe he'll hear our pleas?

  • chaocratorchaocrator

    @EdZAB said:
    Some of the newer 4Pockets apps (such as Midistep) have an option to export the manual as a PDF file

    … but it just doesn't work in MidiStep.
    it does not produce any output on iOS and freezes MidiStep on desktop.

    however, on desktop HTML help folder can be found and copied, so should be easy to convert to pdf or epub.

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