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Time Will Tell (Solo, Noire, The Grandeur, Dolce, Omnisphere)

This is a music track that I improvised on two MIDI keyboards connected to Bitwig Studio on a desktop PC. There the MIDI was routed to Solo for the cello, flute, clarinet, and bassoon; Noire and The Grandeur for the piano; Dolce for the basses; and Omnisphere for the other instruments.

After bringing the audio recording into Vegas Pro, I applied the Lurssen Mastering Console plug-in to the audio mix.

It's titled Time Will Tell.

Comments

  • There is a healing quality to your work. I feel more grounded having experienced this. You take you time letting these instruments do the attention seeking and not you showing off keyboard facility. Nice skill to have.

  • I agree with @McD , very soothing 🙏

  • On the other hand I wish you made more use of IOS technology so more could see the benefit of cheaper solutions with excellent results.

  • Thanks, @McD and @GeoTony . Much appreciated.

    I would like to use more IOS technology. It's not just the instruments. I really depend on Bitwig Studio's ability to fine-tune the speed of the MIDI tracks. AUM is great, but it isn't MIDI friendly. I need to switch to another DAW on my iPad, or figure out a way to better integrate my iPad with my PC.

  • Cubasis supports sharing projects with it’s much older desktop brother Cubase or Logic Pro on iOS and Mac would make sharing some aspects of a workflow.

  • @McD, Cubasis does look interesting with its ability to share projects across platforms. Thanks, I'm looking into it.

    I did find where someone had asked if there could be a real-time hookup between platforms, and a Steinberg Media Technologies rep didn't rule it out for a future version. Unfortunately, that was more than a decade ago. A real-time connection would be ideal for me, as I could freely mix iOS and PC instruments together while improvising and re-orchestrating.

  • edited April 23

    Listening to this beautiful and serene piece of music while reading this thread. First of all, lovely work!

    Second of all, I'm with @McD in his recommendation to use Cubasis 3. :) It's very MIDI friendly, and since December has a tempo track and time signature track. It also has loads of amazing IAP sounds (Halion, FM Classics, NeoFM, and Iconica Sketch integration) and even a handful of Waves plugins (including Waves Tune RT). Only thing it lacks is a drum rack, but if you have the fully unlocked version of Koala Sampler, there's your drum rack.

    Another option would be Logic Pro. Slightly different workflow, but can still yield some mighty results. Also has a lot of great built-in and downloadable content that is all included with its $5/month subscription, no IAPs. Of course not everyone likes subscriptions, but it's only a fiver to try it out for a month to see if you like it. It has a better oneshot sample system than Cubasis, but those substacks (groups) were a pain for me to work with personally. Ymmv.

    One more thing. Cubasis can work both on iPhone and iPad, making coming up with piano sketches on the go a breeze which you can then later delegate to other parts. For instance, I usually use a piano sketch to lay out chords, melody, and bassline (not always in that order though) on iPhone, and then I later load the project in Cubasis on iPad and copy/paste the piano sketch MIDI, deleting the notes that don't fit the part I copied the MIDI to.

    That said, if you'd prefer to try Logic Pro for iPad, you can easily come up with piano sketches and other musical sketches in Garageband on iPhone and open said projects in Logic Pro on iPad. So there's the alternate solution.

    I of course am in the Cubasis camp because it's my preferred workflow (nothing to do with subscription pricing), but ymmv. All in all, hopefully you find the right solution for creating the music you do but on iOS. :) My bottom line suggestion - if you don't mind subscription pricing, I would give Logic Pro a shot for a month at 5 quid. If the workflow is frustrating or not quite for you after the time period of about a month, then invest in Cubasis 3 and see how you get on. If Cubasis 3 turns out to be the better fit for you, then go ahead and grab the IAPs and Iconica Sketch. (Actually, Iconica Sketch can also work as AUv3 in Logic Pro!) Those IAPs will cover just about every sound you could want to cover.

    Best of luck, Mr. English. Cheers.

  • Thanks, @jwmmakerofmusic. Much appreciated.

    I just downloaded Logic Pro for iPad, and I can try it for free for 30 days. (Looking forward to checking out the remnants of Alchemy Mobile, which used to be my favorite iOS synth app.)

    As you suggest, it would make sense to explore that one first, and then delve into Cubasis 3.

  • Mighty pretty and relaxing piece. I was wondering, is there a certain preset in Lurssen Mastering Console that you use for these? I also have that app now and was wondering which ones you like to use. You stuff always sound good.

  • @DavidEnglish said:
    Thanks, @jwmmakerofmusic. Much appreciated.

    I just downloaded Logic Pro for iPad, and I can try it for free for 30 days. (Looking forward to checking out the remnants of Alchemy Mobile, which used to be my favorite iOS synth app.)

    As you suggest, it would make sense to explore that one first, and then delve into Cubasis 3.

    Ah, excellent. So you never did test Logic Pro yet. :) Meaning you get that one month free. Best of luck on learning and experimenting with it. Hopefully it'll work out.

  • @Dav, regarding Lurssen Mastering Console, I usually start off with the "Classical (Warmer)" style and make adjustments from there. I mostly use LMC to make very small modifications at the last moment (if needed), when I'm able to view the music and visuals together.

    A much bigger influence on the overall sound would be my using FabFilter Pro-C 2 and FabFilter Pro-Q 4 while editing the music track in Bitwig Studio. I tend to use the "Tighten Classical Warm NH" preset in Pro-C 2 and the "Subgroup Sorcery" preset in Pro-Q 4. Both FabFilter apps are available for iOS.

    Two- or three-years ago, I would use the crystalline app for reverb on some of the individual instruments (such as the "House Piano Ambience" preset on the Noire piano). I also tended to use as the "Subtle Room" preset in FabFilter Pro-R for the overall mix. These days, I don't use any extra reverb (outside of what might be available within the instrument), as I now prefer a cleaner rather than a dreamer sound.

    I hope that makes sense.

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