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Advice on emulating Ableton Beat Repeat effect on iOS

Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000
edited August 2015 in General App Discussion

Does anyone know the closest way to emulate the Ableton Beat Repeat plugin/audio effect on iOS?

It's a very nice way of sampling a slice of a bar of music (drums, vocals etc) and repeating it (fading out) a bit like a very precise, selective short delay.

Ideally I'd be able to do it in Turnado or Auria's Timeless plugin but having spent a good while trying I'm not really having much luck getting the same effect. If like to be able to automate it in Auria.

I feel like Turnado should do it. But the loopers aren't really doing the same thing.

Any help appreciated. If you know the Ableton beat repeat you'll know what I mean. This explains in detail how it works:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec10/articles/live-tech-1210.htm

Comments

  • dderksdderks

    I think NILS has something approximating this. The little lizard guy? I love the Beat Repeat in Ableton and this is the closest and easiest parallel I've found.

  • null____voidnull____void

    I can't be bothered to look into exactly what you mean, but protein der klang has a beat repeat effect that I used to be in awe of. But then you have to chop up your samples and load them into PDK & it might be more trouble than its worth.

  • dderksdderks
    edited August 2015

    YES! PDK needs more love.

    @rhcball said:
    I can't be bothered to look into exactly what you mean, but protein der klang has a beat repeat effect that I used to be in awe of. But then you have to chop up your samples and load them into PDK & it might be more trouble than its worth.

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000
    edited August 2015

    Thanks both. Tried Nils but it seemed a bit too random. Might try again.

    I think I'm determined to try and get Turnado or Timeless to do as close as possible to Beat Repeat inside Auria.

  • gburksgburks

    I think Samplr can do what you are lookin for. Also, maybe iMPC Pro, either the note repeat, or its little "Flux" pad. Also inside of Tabletop, the glitchboard can do this.

    iMPC Pro does not play nice MIDI-wise when trying to use another DAW like Cubasis (no control of MIDI channels, sends a bunch of misc note outs to other apps) so I'm also looking for a different note repeat solution. I just ordered the MPD226 which has note repeat built in and can sync to external clock... Haven't gotten to try it yet).

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    Thanks. I'll try iMPC's flux. It's not exactly note repeat I'm looking for. It's more of a 'sampling then repeating' thing.

  • touchconspiracytouchconspiracy

    Abu Dhabi..

    Can even get a similar effect by using traitor djs looper with added delay fx

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    @touchconspiracy said:
    Abu Dhabi..

    Can even get a similar effect by using traitor djs looper with added delay fx

    Thanks. Abu Dhabi's "repeat" function? That could work, with delay added too.

    I'll try Tractor - although I have to go through bl00dy iTunes to get anything into Tractor don't I? That pretty much rules it out :)

    I've made some progress with Turnado and Timeless now...

    I can get Turnado to do nice looped repeats of course. But not the nice faded out decay you get with Ableton Beat Repeat (i need to keep tweaking because I think I can probably get messing with fading the wet/dry out/in).

    Timeless I've worked out how I can get to do nice fast delays that feel like a 'repeater' effect that decay out smoothly.

    The one thing that Ableton Beat Repeat has which I can't quite emulate is the gating of the dry source. I can't really gate the dry source with the wet delay/repeat very effectively in either Turnado or Timeless and get it to sound exactly how I want it. But i'm nearly there.

  • null____voidnull____void

    I just saw the word 'tornado' in an article & thought they misspelled it due to Turnado being so much more prominent in my vocabulary.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    does effectrix have anything like this?

  • gburksgburks

    I just stumbled across some patches in FLUX:FX that do this. Haven't played with it enough to tame it yet but I was definitely able to grab live audio by touching the XY pad and move it around to get different clock synced repeats.

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    @gburks said:
    I just stumbled across some patches in FLUX:FX that do this. Haven't played with it enough to tame it yet but I was definitely able to grab live audio by touching the XY pad and move it around to get different clock synced repeats.

    Nice... sadly I don't have FLUX... Maybe i'll get it one day.

    I've basically got to a point with a combination of Timeless and some modified patches in Turnado where I can do what I want to do in Auria. The nice thing is I can get in and tweak/draw the automation so I can get it to be pretty exact (e.g loop/repeat a single word in a vocal phrase).

  • thesammillerthesammiller

    You could also use pads in Lemur send to MIDI CC and set each pad at a specific value to Turnado that would have beat repeat work at the interval you want.

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