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  • niallobrienniallobrien

    It's not a matter of long samples, but about more kit & microphone options and velocity layers.

    @Gilbert said:

    @theconnactic said:
    This is great news, @Gilbert. in a technical level, the current kits use disk streaming or are loaded in the RAM? because if you use Disk Streaming with the very fast SSDs of current iPads, at least in theory would be possible to load very large libraries... Or not? If you release a 1 GB or bigger library IAP, I'd surely buy it: the iPad is my main workhorse now.

    Kits samples are loaded in the RAM. ( That way it is possible to switch in real time to another kit. )
    We try to make each pack as compact ( in size ) as possible for quick download, as well as saving precious space on iPad ( for other kits too... )
    This without compromising quality and quantity ( multisamples )
    So I am afraid 1gb library doesn't fit this approach.
    Large libraries like pianos, symphonic orchestras are probably so space consuming because of long, sustained samples. Do we need such long samples for percussive sounds, drums?

  • niallobrienniallobrien

    Would it be worth bouncing down some of my Kontakt content and rebuilding it for Lyra or DPP do you think?

    @theconnactic said:
    You can use your own samples and even create your own kits in DrumPerfect Pro. So what you describe is perfectly doable.

  • niallobrienniallobrien

    There's generally more kit pieces (or positions) available than what would fit on a 4 x 4 pad setup.

    @Paulyboy said:
    I've been considering Drum Sessions myself but at $25 it has to be a pretty educated purchase if you know what I mean. Drum Apps (like Patterning, DM2, Elastic Drums, etc..) are some of the funnest to play apps out there but creating sophisticated song-length drum tracks, with lots of cool fills and whatnot, can be a lot of work in apps like that. Sometimes I just want to put together a drum track quickly so I can get into adding other instruments right away. Plus I actually prefer acoustic drums, which Drum Sessions specializes in.

    One thing I don't understand is why so many drum apps use a piano roll instead of a grid like DM2 and Elastic Drum? Isn't that kind of counterintuitive? I'm still relatively new to this so be gentle heh.

  • theconnactictheconnactic

    Lyra isn't a true sampler, meaning you can play sample libraries - even large, multi GB ones, but you cannot build your own or edit the library/samples themselves. You can use it for playing EXS libraries, meaning you can use drum libraries from companies such as Analogue Drums - as long as they are in EXS24 format.

    In DPP you can import samples and create cistom kits, but it's not done in an intuitive way. I myself never bothered, but you can if you're feeling nerdy enough to try.

  • niallobrienniallobrien

    Hmmm...can Drumagog load regular desktop .gog files? If so, that might be a good option...

  • GilbertGilbert
    edited December 2016

    @theconnactic said:
    But then again, if huge size for drum libraries don't matter that much, why does Superior Drummer use it? Just to annoy its users with huge downloads?

    To be Superior? :wink:
    I don't know for sure, but we can observe all these years that sound libraries have a tendency to expand considerably, as the competition goes on, the size of memory ( HD, RAM ) increase and their price decrease. Sound libraries appear more detailed of course, often with the same sampled articulation recorded with different mics/FX ( which multiply quickly the number of samples ).
    And some type of kits may require more samples than others.
    Again, how can we compare "big" sample libraries at big price, to DPP, at our tiny IAP prices?

    In fact, some customers I make arrangements for prefer the drums I make.with DPP versus the ones I create with EZDrummer, so the result is good, regardless of technical specs.

    Glad to hear that. Yes, at the end, are not what matters the results one can achieve. Music first!

  • DerekBuddemeyerDerekBuddemeyer

    @Paulyboy said:
    I've been considering Drum Sessions myself but at $25 it has to be a pretty educated purchase if you know what I mean. Drum Apps (like Patterning, DM2, Elastic Drums, etc..) are some of the funnest to play apps out there but creating sophisticated song-length drum tracks, with lots of cool fills and whatnot, can be a lot of work in apps like that. Sometimes I just want to put together a drum track quickly so I can get into adding other instruments right away. Plus I actually prefer acoustic drums, which Drum Sessions specializes in.

    One thing I don't understand is why so many drum apps use a piano roll instead of a grid like DM2 and Elastic Drum? Isn't that kind of counterintuitive? I'm still relatively new to this so be gentle heh.

    Piano roll...for me (Drum Session) is almost essential...there are close to 100 samples to choose from in each kit so a grid would just be a nightmare...lol

  • niallobrienniallobrien
    edited December 2016

    Is it easy to get the individual drum tracks from Drum Session out to Auria Pro?

    @DerekBuddemeyer said:

    @Paulyboy said:
    I've been considering Drum Sessions myself but at $25 it has to be a pretty educated purchase if you know what I mean. Drum Apps (like Patterning, DM2, Elastic Drums, etc..) are some of the funnest to play apps out there but creating sophisticated song-length drum tracks, with lots of cool fills and whatnot, can be a lot of work in apps like that. Sometimes I just want to put together a drum track quickly so I can get into adding other instruments right away. Plus I actually prefer acoustic drums, which Drum Sessions specializes in.

    One thing I don't understand is why so many drum apps use a piano roll instead of a grid like DM2 and Elastic Drum? Isn't that kind of counterintuitive? I'm still relatively new to this so be gentle heh.

    Piano roll...for me (Drum Session) is almost essential...there are close to 100 samples to choose from in each kit so a grid would just be a nightmare...lol

  • PaulyboyPaulyboy

    @DerekBuddemeyer said:

    @Paulyboy said:
    I've been considering Drum Sessions myself but at $25 it has to be a pretty educated purchase if you know what I mean. Drum Apps (like Patterning, DM2, Elastic Drums, etc..) are some of the funnest to play apps out there but creating sophisticated song-length drum tracks, with lots of cool fills and whatnot, can be a lot of work in apps like that. Sometimes I just want to put together a drum track quickly so I can get into adding other instruments right away. Plus I actually prefer acoustic drums, which Drum Sessions specializes in.

    One thing I don't understand is why so many drum apps use a piano roll instead of a grid like DM2 and Elastic Drum? Isn't that kind of counterintuitive? I'm still relatively new to this so be gentle heh.

    Piano roll...for me (Drum Session) is almost essential...there are close to 100 samples to choose from in each kit so a grid would just be a nightmare...lol

    Ah ok. That makes sense.

  • DerekBuddemeyerDerekBuddemeyer

    @niallobrien said:
    Is it easy to get the individual drum tracks from Drum Session out to Auria Pro?

    @DerekBuddemeyer said:

    @Paulyboy said:
    I've been considering Drum Sessions myself but at $25 it has to be a pretty educated purchase if you know what I mean. Drum Apps (like Patterning, DM2, Elastic Drums, etc..) are some of the funnest to play apps out there but creating sophisticated song-length drum tracks, with lots of cool fills and whatnot, can be a lot of work in apps like that. Sometimes I just want to put together a drum track quickly so I can get into adding other instruments right away. Plus I actually prefer acoustic drums, which Drum Sessions specializes in.

    One thing I don't understand is why so many drum apps use a piano roll instead of a grid like DM2 and Elastic Drum? Isn't that kind of counterintuitive? I'm still relatively new to this so be gentle heh.

    Piano roll...for me (Drum Session) is almost essential...there are close to 100 samples to choose from in each kit so a grid would just be a nightmare...lol

    You mean a finished drum tack into Auria...yes, I do it all the time...export AudioCopy...we are working on a "open in" option or I also use IAA with Auria or AudioShare. We will have stem support soon where you can assign each kit piece it's own track in Auria...snare, bass, toms, hihats, cymbals...etc. adding 6 new kits as well... a dry kit with everything panned up the middle for stem export where you can set individual levels of each piece and pan yourself. Then 5 new studio engineered kits that absolutely blow me away

  • theconnactictheconnactic

    @DerekBuddemeyer said:

    You mean a finished drum tack into Auria...yes, I do it all the time...export AudioCopy...we are working on a "open in" option or I also use IAA with Auria or AudioShare. We will have stem support soon where you can assign each kit piece it's own track in Auria...snare, bass, toms, hihats, cymbals...etc. adding 6 new kits as well... a dry kit with everything panned up the middle for stem export where you can set individual levels of each piece and pan yourself. Then 5 new studio engineered kits that absolutely blow me away

    Well, blow me down! You're fast! I cannot wait! Specially stem exporting and the dry kit! Can you tell us from which drum it's sampled?

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    If he did, well you know, he would have to quill you :# :o o:) <3

  • buskerbusker

    Anyone want to comment on how Garageband's built-in drummers stack up to these options, sound-wise?

  • halconhalcon

    Any chance we'll see DPP and DS on sale soon? :)

  • DerekBuddemeyerDerekBuddemeyer

    @theconnactic said:

    @DerekBuddemeyer said:

    You mean a finished drum tack into Auria...yes, I do it all the time...export AudioCopy...we are working on a "open in" option or I also use IAA with Auria or AudioShare. We will have stem support soon where you can assign each kit piece it's own track in Auria...snare, bass, toms, hihats, cymbals...etc. adding 6 new kits as well... a dry kit with everything panned up the middle for stem export where you can set individual levels of each piece and pan yourself. Then 5 new studio engineered kits that absolutely blow me away

    Well, blow me down! You're fast! I cannot wait! Specially stem exporting and the dry kit! Can you tell us from which drum it's sampled?

    @busker said:
    Anyone want to comment on how Garageband's built-in drummers stack up to these options, sound-wise?

    Custom kit...grandma's secret recipe...lol

    I'm going to be pretty bold and say...as far as soundwise...Drum Session is a pretty heavy hitter in the sound department...I know I'm blown away by the panning and overall sound in the room with the kits...but...that might just be me...anyone else? Bueller?

  • niallobrienniallobrien

    Will this be a paid upgrade (including the extra kits)? If so, I'll honestly hold off purchasing until released.

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @niallobrien said:
    Hmmm...can Drumagog load regular desktop .gog files? If so, that might be a good option...

    Yes it can. Unfortunately hi-hat articulations are not supported in the iOS version though.

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @busker said:
    Anyone want to comment on how Garageband's built-in drummers stack up to these options, sound-wise?

    I think it holds its own, sound-wise and workflow-wise. No stem export though.

  • niallobrienniallobrien

    Just want to say, thanks everyone - there's some fantastic information in this thread and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one looking for this kinda stuff on iOS.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @DerekBuddemeyer said:

    @niallobrien said:
    Is it easy to get the individual drum tracks from Drum Session out to Auria Pro?

    @DerekBuddemeyer said:

    @Paulyboy said:
    I've been considering Drum Sessions myself but at $25 it has to be a pretty educated purchase if you know what I mean. Drum Apps (like Patterning, DM2, Elastic Drums, etc..) are some of the funnest to play apps out there but creating sophisticated song-length drum tracks, with lots of cool fills and whatnot, can be a lot of work in apps like that. Sometimes I just want to put together a drum track quickly so I can get into adding other instruments right away. Plus I actually prefer acoustic drums, which Drum Sessions specializes in.

    One thing I don't understand is why so many drum apps use a piano roll instead of a grid like DM2 and Elastic Drum? Isn't that kind of counterintuitive? I'm still relatively new to this so be gentle heh.

    Piano roll...for me (Drum Session) is almost essential...there are close to 100 samples to choose from in each kit so a grid would just be a nightmare...lol

    You mean a finished drum tack into Auria...yes, I do it all the time...export AudioCopy...we are working on a "open in" option or I also use IAA with Auria or AudioShare. We will have stem support soon where you can assign each kit piece it's own track in Auria...snare, bass, toms, hihats, cymbals...etc. adding 6 new kits as well... a dry kit with everything panned up the middle for stem export where you can set individual levels of each piece and pan yourself. Then 5 new studio engineered kits that absolutely blow me away

    Stem support will take this app to a whole new level of use for myself.

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    Ok I just got an early xmas present of an iTunes voucher. I want to pull the trigger on either DPP or Drum Session, really cannot decide which way to go...
    I want instant gratification for just jamming as well as in depth programming for my own patterns....
    Which way should I go ?

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Ok I just got an early xmas present of an iTunes voucher. I want to pull the trigger on either DPP or Drum Session, really cannot decide which way to go...
    I want instant gratification for just jamming as well as in depth programming for my own patterns....
    Which way should I go ?

    Although I love DPP and think it's properly the only choice for the indepth programming, Drum Session is so easy to whip up a drum track in next to no time!

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Ok I just got an early xmas present of an iTunes voucher. I want to pull the trigger on either DPP or Drum Session, really cannot decide which way to go...
    I want instant gratification for just jamming as well as in depth programming for my own patterns....
    Which way should I go ?

    Although I love DPP and think it's properly the only choice for the indepth programming, Drum Session is so easy to whip up a drum track in next to no time!

    And there is my dilemma ;)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Ok I just got an early xmas present of an iTunes voucher. I want to pull the trigger on either DPP or Drum Session, really cannot decide which way to go...
    I want instant gratification for just jamming as well as in depth programming for my own patterns....
    Which way should I go ?

    Although I love DPP and think it's properly the only choice for the indepth programming, Drum Session is so easy to whip up a drum track in next to no time!

    And there is my dilemma ;)

    Then only one solution....

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Ok I just got an early xmas present of an iTunes voucher. I want to pull the trigger on either DPP or Drum Session, really cannot decide which way to go...
    I want instant gratification for just jamming as well as in depth programming for my own patterns....
    Which way should I go ?

    Although I love DPP and think it's properly the only choice for the indepth programming, Drum Session is so easy to whip up a drum track in next to no time!

    And there is my dilemma ;)

    Then only one solution....

    Which is.......

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    Ok I just got an early xmas present of an iTunes voucher. I want to pull the trigger on either DPP or Drum Session, really cannot decide which way to go...
    I want instant gratification for just jamming as well as in depth programming for my own patterns....
    Which way should I go ?

    Although I love DPP and think it's properly the only choice for the indepth programming, Drum Session is so easy to whip up a drum track in next to no time!

    And there is my dilemma ;)

    Then only one solution....

    Which is.......

    Drum roll..........

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    I can't get both LOL

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @AndyPlankton said:
    I can't get both LOL

    Lol spoil my drum roll ;)

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:
    I can't get both LOL

    Lol spoil my drum roll ;)

    Timing is everything :D

  • AndyPlanktonAndyPlankton

    I guess the question really is what does the in depth programming of DPP bring that I couldn't do in a 'regular' sequencer.

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