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I agree with the old guys but dayum gotta say the BM3 and NS2 combo is pretty potent.
we have all of the capabilities we need to do whatever we want now (minus samplr's panning and Playground's sample import) ... but the issue now is workflow... when Intua extracts it's sample slicing beat machine out of BM3, turns it into a separate app and turns what's left into a daw to sell separately they are going to make a lot of money.
Can you chop samples in Stagelight?
Thanks a lot for your advice brother, the more I look into things the more it looks like I'm better off just learning BM3 and maybe getting some plugins and synth apps to use alongside BM3.
Can NS2 be used with Audiobus currently? How can I use NS2 to play along with BM2/3? I noticed you mentioned Midi but how would that work?
Indeed and that's the problem. I guess my best bet will be to do a bulk of sampling in BM3 then export it to Nanostudio 2 when they get audio tracks or Cubasis 2.
Audiobus - at the moment no, but it will be in next update. For sure output (so you will be able to send NS2 output to other apps), input (for direct sampling into NS2, because for now NS2 doesn't have audio tracks, just samplers, audio tracks are planned later this year) is still being discussed (but i'm pusshing for adding it too :-))
Regarding midi - NS2 can send MIDI notes and CC to external HW (sampler, synth) or any other internal App wich supports virtual midi ports.
I'm not sure what are posibilities in BM3 for receiving MIDI notes and CC (maybe @AudioGus can help you more wih this), but theoretically you can use NS2 as sequencer which sends notes to BM3 - somyou will use BM3 just as sampler, all notes and sequences will be insidw NS2.
Lol much respect man!
That's valid!
I remember "trying" caustic a few years back when my ipad was jailbroken and it was pretty good but pretty retro in it's approach from what I recall. I'll look into it again though. Thanks for the recommendation and to those who chimed in also recommending caustic.
That sucks cause I like to use different apps and this is one of the negatives going against it for now imo
So I cant use audiobus with it or Inter app audio?
Oh I see, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the info and your explanation.
Caustic does have a Multi Filter effect which is better than the filters built into the instruments. It also has a very complete wave editor with time stretching and pitch change. It is very capable and shouldn’t be so quickly written off. The Documents app from Readdle allows you to access all Caustic folders through the built in Caustic FTP Server. There’s a lot more going on there than people give it credit for. I’ve moved on th NS2 but still crack open Caustic when I’m feeling it. There is a free desktop version for Mac/PC to check it out.
Indeed. Doubling down on my old guy point early... Nothing available today should be written off. Compare the capabilities of even Caustic V1.0 on an old shitty android phone to the capabilities of an SP-1200 or an MPC-60 and iMPC2 and the differences are just goofy. Sure, the SP and MPC-60 had mojo but whatever. 1988 Pete Rock would have killed a school's worth of children for access to Caustic.
@MarkySo
Just want add - at least with BM2 it works like a charm, tried send notes and cc from NS2 to BM2 and it works perfectly, i can control even multiple sampler instances in BM2 on different midi channels, and parameters life filter cutoff on pad ...
Yeah from what I remember Caustic actually was very good and capable but can it be used as IAA or with Audiobus as an input or output? Do you remember?
Thanks a lot man, good to know. This way you can build your track in NS2 around it and use the sampling ability of BM2. I hope it works in BM3 as well.
This may be a solution for me and once NS2 gets Audio tracks, game over as they say lol!
BM2 is actually very intuitive and straightforward... Didn't open it for more than year (probably two years) - but after i run it today it tooks me 2 minutes to route NS2 midi -> BM2 drum samplers, every one ondifferent midi channel, map few CCs to pads cutoff filters in BM2 and chop loop to pads which i never did before
this has got to be the worst and best thing ever said about Pete Rock..... classic
if only everybody else knew what caustic was I would have had to get your permission to find a way to work that into some lyrics lol
@Max23 yes - total nightmare for me :-) Thats why i'm talking about BM2 :-) But of course there are people who like it... people are different
My comment is 100% open source. Go nuts
You're probably one of the few who needn't look up Pete Rock on Wikipedia first! Someone pass me by back pills.
Mentioning Pete Rock is a good way to get the aging Hip-Hop folks like myself out of their easy chairs. I spent a lot of time trying to recreate that high hat...
@Max23 @dendy - but are you making 'sample based hip hop production' as that's what the OP is asking and BM3 seems like the best fit for that task on iOS, I reckon.
Because he wrote this in first post:
So my reply was that pure NS2 isn't good solution because it lacks some crucial features for this type of music, but NS2+BM2 combo should work pretty well...
I've also really struggled with BM3. It seems like it should be perfect. But I find it unstable, even in the most recent update. MIDI functionality has been a chore for me, both with setting up other apps to play nicely and with timing itself from the in-app pads. NS2 on the other hand has been a dream using Egoist/Reslice/Beat Hawk. I might try BM2 if it's that easy to set up with NS2. If only we had Inter-app audio or an auv3 of the Bm2 or BM3 samplers
But then the subject does say 'Beatmaker 3 vs Nanstudio 2 vs Cubasis' so...
...imho, use any and all but be sure to give BM3 an honest shake and at least try to get over the hump especially for hiphop. I find I can get the best results in BM3 but yes at times it takes more work. But if you are honestly thinking 'production' and not 'hobby' I mean, sheeit dawg etc. Go BM3. Is NS2 more fun and easier? sure but so is playing video games and eating chicken wings. BM3 is overall way more capable for the genre hands down. But yah there are a couple extra taps (particularly with AU instruments embedded on pads/sigh) and the automation is clunky as hell and even balls out buggy/ kinda broken compared to NS2. But yah for me it is either 'all BM3', or 'BM3 for making kits and clips for Slate in NS2'. Just don't forgo the raw power of BM3 completely.
I will happily sing BM3s praises where it's due, and it's due in a lot of places. For example the slicing is top notch. It's a phenomenal app in many ways and some of my frustrations may be stemming from a lack of fully committing to it.
What in your opinion are the strengths of Nansotudio 2 and also Cubasis? I get from what most of you are saying is that BM3 is best for sampling and that it's best I try to learn it and try to overcome the learning curves that come with the app. With that said I was just wondering what are the benefits of the other two apps?
Also do you think if Nanostudio 2 gets audio tracks and sample chopping it would be able to compete with BM3 when it comes to sampling?
The reasons why I’d choose Cubasis is the GUI, stability and ease to use.
Everting you need while producing is right in front of you.
You have the wave plugins you could purchase as IAP and are fantastic.
Love the keyboard layout and the Chord option.not like in BM3 where you are stuck with one chord.in Cubasis, you can choose different chords to be played on the pads.
Or even use the numbers above the keyboard to make up your own chords (how brilliant is that 😍)
I could go on and on about Cubasis.the piano Roll is just so beautiful.the colours in Cubasis help me keep my eyes on the screen.while with other iOS daws it’s hard to focus on the screen at night because of the dark skin some of them chose.
I know the lack of real send tracks is a bit of a pain, but hey, music ain’t all about send tracks.you could definitely work around that.(I hope one day an update comes it)
The mixer channel is just one tap, and opens up under your tracks; meaning you can see you tracks while messing with the faders and gives you a better tracking option in my opinion.for example, if you want to automate the volume of a track, you can see exactly where you want the automation to be recorded.while in BM3 you’d have to look at the mini screen next to the transport bar.
For hip hop Beats, have a look at my instagram.this is a beat I made entirely in Cubasis using Zeeon, SynthMaster Player and AudioLayer for my drums and 808bass.
For sampling, Cubasis in my opinion combined with AudioLayer you could get almost the same out come you’d get in BM3.just a little bit long.
Let me explain
1 Get your sample, chop it up on the Cubasis timeline, time stretch them to the project tempo, change the pitch if you like and save every chop to media bay.
2 Then load AudioLayer as an AU instrument.
3 Go to Cubasis media bay and look for the sample chops you just saved, click on the share option and choose AudioCopy.
4 Then go into AudioLayer and choose import sample, it will import the one you just uploaded to The pasteboard.
5 Set the key/s you want the sample to play on. for example, first chop on c3
6 Create a new layer in AudioLayer for the next chop.so you can be able to mess with the pitch, Lfo and the envelops of each chop.
Just redo the from step 3 to 6 for all the chops and that’s it.
You can now use builtin in effects for each layer.
Or just duplicate the AudioLayer tracks if you want to use Au effects each chop.
If you want to choke some samples, all you have to do is set the layers the samples are in to mono in AudioLayer
BM3 is still a beast tho.i use it from Time to time.
Can’t speak for NannoStudio I don’t own it.
If I could go back to when I purchased Cubasis I would do it again.
Nanostudio2
Pros
-fast and smooth midi workflow
-Fast and smooth automation.
-ui navigation is lovely with minor niggles that I imagine will be fixed or not eh, its awesome
-it is very optimised and setting up macros for AUs, while a a small bump/hurdle I think pays off with faster and more efficient performance than regular AU automation in most hosts
-very nice for midi out. I like using my laptop/vsts as sound modules.
Cons
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-no AUfx automation, eek! Fix!
-this is personal/subjective but people rave about Obsidian but it just doesnt do it for me and i have not heard much from it to really float my boat. I stick with Synthmaster One and Aparillo primarily. Sure they eat the cpu but that is why I have a cpu.
-Slate is... ok but limited. Not too thrilled by it. it does not allow you to select ranges of wav files, you are forced to trim. Ugh, primitive! Exporting from BM3 to NS2 has been ok and is really the only way I can use slate, zero patience for that audio editor.
-slate does not have export tracks per pad like BM3 which instantly puts it in the hobbiest slot to me. (Really? Solo/export/solo/export/solo/export/solo/export etc etc like it is 2012?
-No internal recording of AUs etc, only line in, AB support coming one day though
-Mixdown timeouts. I am having tons of issues with doing mixdowns with AUs but have not heard nearly as much complaining about this from others. Maybe it is something i do that is wonky? This has actually been my biggest con.
Audiotracks?
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-will have to wait and see. Anything is possible and I have learned not to get my hopes up for this on iOS (...). Track freezing may/should be nice cause dayum my AUs eat a lot of CPU!
BM3
Pros
-That sampler is a powerhouse for me. People rave about the slicer but I mostly just copy and paste pads and modify ranges of the wav each time but yes the slicer is good too of course. Transient detection is nice for small jobs but the real goods for me is dropping in a 10-20min wav of just previously mucking around with stream of conciousness sounds and external fx as a starting point for sampler modulation etc. Yum yum so good. Also for real cool drums (not that I have achieved this yet) you need the layering and routing potential of BM3 for sure. Can’t just drop stock sample libraries in and leave em at that. Gotta tweak and polish those bits. All those per pad/per layer tweakables? Insane!
-mixer and routing for plaback and recording kick ass
-export per pad is beyond awesome.
-file structure and perks (zip, dropbox etc) is baller
Cons
-UGH!! Splitting patterns on the timeline kills automation. Merging patterns kills automation! UGH! This is actually what I think I love doing most in NS2.
-automation has bugs with automation ranges being displayed improperly.
-audio tracks are somewhat bare bones. Could use classic fade in/out, level, start/end controls on audio clips.
-more flat out crashes or audio deaths than any other anything I have used on iOS. Much better than it was but can still get a couple in a bad hour on a bad day.
-AUs on pads probably makes things a little clunkier than they should be. Should just have the option for an AU track. Would reduce overall tappage
Cubasis
Pros-
-simple and easy
Cons-
-too simple
Anyway, ramble ramble...
daw based hiphop and beat machine /groovebox based hiphop feel different...