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I found that one last night. First thing I thought was "AIR, great, it's wireless", but that doesn't seem to be the case. Second thing was it appears to be without pitch or modulation which seems very strange. I ran out of time but will look at it a bit closer. The other thing is there is not much difference in price here. I think with a bit of haggling there is probably only $50 difference between the top 3 and the AIR mini.
I have Bluetooth dongles connected to the MIDI ports of my Keystep all the time and they work flawlessly. Both the Yamaha MD-BT01 as well as the smaller Quicco mi.1.
It powers easily off a small USB power bank (stripped to a dead-end plug in the sustain pedal port) for many hours, it's very low on energy consumption.
Which one would you recommend considering price, reliability, operation. The Yamaha powers off the device. The Quicco?
Seems the same to me. Even though I am not a keys player I still use some range and 2 octaves seems like it would annoy me. Sometimes 4 annoys me
I have an Alesis Samplepad 4 so with the bluetooth midi dongles I'm starting to lean toward the Arturia. not as. If it had battery power that would probably seal the deal.
Oh, did I mention this guy?
Yes I know, the big orange cable means no bt but:
1. Has midi out
2. Great key action
3. Controls assignable from the unit (no editor).
4. Powers off lightning.
5. Great built quality.
6. Cheap
My first midi controller, maybe 20 years ago was a midiplus. It was crap and still cost twice as much as a keystep. Was a good controller though and I had it a long time. I'd seriously consider this but unfortunately can't find a seller in Australia. That means I'm paying top dollar once postage is factored in.
Yes, no problem whatsoever.
Both the Yamaha and the Quicco work well.
This might be on the list as well. Although, 25 keys? I don't know.
Arturia MiniLab Mk II
I always recommend this to start. It's a Swiss army knife if you use it properly. Sans 5pin MIDI, or sequencer, and only 25 keys, but you get the flexibility of Arturia's controllers with a host of tactile pads and encoders; the ability to switch midi chans without a computer, the ability to switch presets without a computer, the ability to combine those 2 things without a computer, and the ability to program 'shift' functions all make this controller quite handy if you learn/know how to use it properly.
Good luck
In terms of key count, I always say something like this:
25 keys - bass lines or simple melodies only. Anything else? Ugh.
37 keys - excellent for one handed playing, especially if octave switches are easy to access. Too little range for most 2 handed stuff.
49 keys - absolute minimum for 2 handed playing, at least without extreme frustration. But still a compromise for 2 hands.
61 keys - there's a reason this is as popular as it is. Big enough to split into a 25 key controller on the left and 37 keys on the right (minus 1 key somewhere) if you think about it.
72 keys - a compromise between the ones above and below it that apparently isn't a very popular compromise.
88 keys - what you get when you want a full, weighted action piano style keyboard if you can deal with the size/weight/cost.
Thanks. I think I'm starting to lean toward the Arturia. Mostly because they seem better built and more suited to the desktop which is my main environment. My current and dying controller has 8 knobs and 8 sliders, plus transport controls. It's a large keyboard though so I have it set up in a way that is difficult to access anything but the keys so I never use the controllers. A smaller controller would change this though so I'll have to give this some serious thought.
Thanks, that's a great perspective. I don't know if it is because I've had a 49 key for 10 years+ but I'm starting to think I can't go below 37.
Whenever I had the choice, I wouldn't go below 37 either. Modern chords need space.
Hey @Ailerom Novation possibly dropping/announcing Launchkey (non-mimi) mk3 tomorrow. Could be an option.
@ rs2000 :It powers easily off a small USB power bank (stripped to a dead-end plug in the sustain pedal port) for many hours, it's very low on energy consumption
Can you explain what this means ?
Here's a pic from an older post:
https://forum.audiob.us/uploads/editor/ud/b69tjdudrold.jpeg
I broke down and got both the nanoKey studio and Kontrol solely based on Bluetooth and price. I have the older nano controllers and they are cheap construction but they work. Believe me I’ve been researching this but for the price and BT they are hard to beat. Temper your expectations and if BT isn’t a deal breaker there’s better out there.
@rs2000 :It powers easily off a small USB power bank (stripped to a dead-end plug in the sustain pedal port) for many hours, it's very low on energy consumption
I see the pic. Do you actually mean "strapped" to a dead end plug? "Stripping" implies opening power cable and attaching wire directly to the plug in the sustain port, which I don't know why you'd be doing. Then again, I can't really see how it's "strapped" to that plug, either. In any case, isn't the USB power going directly into the usb charging port on the controller?
Google only brings up the mini. Any info elsewhere?
It will be announced in a few hours.
Of course, yes &sorry, I meant "strapped" using a tiny nylon cable strap for the only purpose of mechanically fixing it. Zoom into the pic and you'll see its (yet uncut) tail between the sustain plug and the BT dongles.
And yes, the white USB cable is the power supply.
Is it any good?.. Only i ask is because i was looking at the 61 version (even 88key one).. From this comapy .... I used iRig KEYS MINI while in lock down.. Found i can play easier on smaller keys, due to my arthritus...
Happy Microkey Air user here. The keys are small but have a good feel. I had a first gen Nanokey and these feel much better IMO. Good form factor for couch playing. Bluetooth is reliable and low latency but there’s also a USB port if you want to connect to a computer. If you get it make sure you get the Korg BT utility.
Yes, I’m very happy with it. The keyboard action is comparable with Arturia mini lab mpk 2 and keystep. Well springy action, probably best of all mini key controllers. Powering off iPad or iPhone without powered hubs is a big deal to me but also the fact that it can be programmed from the unit itself so no need for a computer.
Thank mate.. You me helped make my mind up..
Sorry but what is the BT utility?
Maybe he is referring to this app for connecting bluetooth to ios?
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bluetooth-midi-connect/id1108321791
But it is not needed if you have other apps that can connect to bluetooth. Most proper music apps can do it without apps like this.
Cool, thanks
Checking out the new Launchkey Mk3. Looks very nice, like the chord pads. Would be so handy for recording basic chords. Obviously not for anyone that can plat. Can't imagine the 37 key being similar price to a NKS though.