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Welcome to youtube video making. What trigger pad are you using? I have had pretty good success with a piezo pickup stuck to a piece of wood that I duct tapped a mouse pad to to act like a homemade practice pad. Worked ok with using either hands or drum sticks.
Thanks for the vid! I'm impressed with these melodic results you guys are getting out of Impaktor. Also, the low latency is always rather mind boggling. How did they do it!?
I want to see that on youtube! DIY win
It's a Roland PD8
Or DP8
Headless Man in Heaven Bangs His Own Drum Shocker!
Ha. I knew you'd like it.
Still working on the head.
And the sense of rhythm.
Thanks. I tried a Piezo mic attached to various objects but it was always very, very quiet in terms of the volume it sent into Impaktor.
The PD8 + UCA222 works a treat.
My only issue now is that the Impaktor looper always jumps slightly when you switch apps. So you cant use the looper in conjunction with other apps on the device, live.
Thanks. It's actually very easy if you use the 'harmonic' synth type. And then restrict to a scale. Took me about 30 seconds to make Impaktor sound like a weird electric guitar restricted to 5 notes
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Very cool, and very inspiring too. Guess I'll have to give it a go. Thanks for the inspiration.
Thanks. Do it
Well I have a Korg Wavedrum Oriental and if this could replace it then I could sell off the Wavedrum and buy more drugs, I mean drums hahaha I meant drums. Huboy.
I might have to run Impaktor through Turnado or something for pitch bending. An FSR could be used for pressure sensing, but I don't know enough about how they work to make one. Yet.
Impaktor can be made to bend pitch. But it's alive! The two influences, as far as I understand it, you have to play with are the intensity of the sound you put into it. And the envelope of the sound you give it (a tap vs a slap).
What's an FSR?
Nicely done!
Thanks. Was pretty spontaneous.
That's awesome! Get the hand drum action goin!
Nice one Matt. I find that other than the sound, impaktor has a visual wow factor which is not to be underestimated. This is especially true to the mode/scale playing. There is something about laying a sexy bass line using a drum pad. If/when beepstreet implement midi learn, hooking up a midi controller to change cutoff or other parameters would make this a great live tool.
I hope you're finding the rubber surface nice to play. I know people use other things to trigger but unless the pick up is properly fastened to the playing surface, the movement tends to trigger accidental sounds which isn't so great.
Yes I have noticed that little hiccup too whilst switching to eg Magellan . In a live context this is probably a good time to glare angrily at the bass player ( if that is an option ).
Thanks. I tried a Piezo mic attached to various objects but it was always very, very quiet in terms of the volume it sent into Impaktor.
I'm finding quite the opposite in that the transducers I'm using are very loud and I often turn the sensitivity down..
It depends on the selected sound of course..
This is what I'm using...attached with Velcro to inside top as can be seen in photo..the Velcro acts as a cushion of sorts..still fine tuning and utilising different found objects..inside djembe is fantastic !
Thanks @Supadom - you're the single reason I've got into this 'playing impaktor with an actual drum' thing - so I'm very grateful to you. Your videos and advice on this forum have been great.
The rubber is great because of itself it makes very little noise (unlike wood or metal) and it is also very rugged. Plus no need to rely on my DIY skills. It just plug and play.
Can't wait to experiment more.
I can't really make out much difference between the 2 mics in the drum though (one on the edge and one in the middle). Can you?
Edit: and I agree with you on the sexy thing. For me it comes down to being able to jam a little phrase of notes that sound totally organic - rather than just keys on a keyboard that will sound the same each time. With this, every hit is subtly different and 'bent' in some way. A bit like Ophion - but more physical and you can make your own patches. So great for 'in the studio' as well as live.
I'm not a live player, sing a little that way, but nothing to do with instrumentation, but this matter of variance and feel is slowly becoming an issue, or a desire, on most of the messy things I make. I want some authenticity, however contrived
The inspiration goes around in circles. Thanks Mr Fletcher
I have no idea how the dual trigger works but I suspect that if one plugged in a stereo jack the rim and the middle would be firing on 2 separate channels. It is kind of wasted on impaktor but since they can be picked up off eBay for average of £25 it's not a great deal.
I've gone the diy route first because I'm a diy person but getting random sounds every time I picked up or put down the playing surface stopped being fun very quickly
How are you hooking up the pad to the iPad?
Roland PD8 > Behringer: U-CONTROL UCA222 > Camera Connection Kit > iPad.
Then you take the final audio out of the headphone socket of the Behringer: U-CONTROL UCA222 (not the iPad - because iOS unhelpfully blocks the ipad headphone socket if you have audio coming in and out of it's lightening socket).
Triggers do have a wide range of signal output levels, but the pro level pads are more consistent from pad to pad. Most of my homemade piezo''s are lower in output.
Thanks to the previous thread on piezos with Impaktor, I splurged $4 on a Cherub WCP-60G as an Amazon add-on. Originally I was leaning towards trying a DIY option, but this was too cheap to pass up. For me, it's way better than having to wear headphones, and bang on the desk. First, I clipped it to a magazine and it worked fine. My favorite so far is just laying it loose on a bath towel folded 4 times. It picks up the dynamics pretty well, and the towel is nice and soft and quiet to tap on. Lightly tapping directly on the pickup easily gives me the max velocity. Since I've got gain control on the Focusrite Scarlett interface and the Impactor app, there's a lot of ways to dial in the right sensitivity. If it keeps working as well as it does now, I am greatly satisfied with the purchase. I'm sure the pro level pads are better, but I feel like I've got almost the same level of control as the video. The only limitation is it doesn't seem to pick up really fast hits. It's as if the sound of the previous hit is still engaged, so it doesn't pick up the next one.
I used to put piezo's in text books (the thick hard bound type) and you can adjust sensitivity by moving the disk up or down inside the book. This works best with drumsticks.
Nice video, @Matt_Fletcher_2000 - makes me wish I would have held on to just one of the pads from my old Yamaha kit ...
Regarding Impaktor, and a bit of what @Osidenick mentioned - I believe there's a limit in Impaktor, and never could figure out a workaround - outside of double time, of course - to 1/16 notes. Which really, REALLY kills it for me, because sooner or later for bongos, congas and the like you just have to start getting nuts and slapping in some 32nd notes. Gotta! Can't not do it! And Impaktor just refuses to pick them up sigh
If this problem were able to be fixed by an update, or some control I'm missing, I'd be thrilled. I get great level response, dynamics and sound from the app using nothing more than sticks and a rubber Vater practice pad
@eustressor use impaktor as an instrument and forget the built in sequencer. Loopy will pick up your 32, 64 and even 126ths! It will also improve your timing no end.