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kompressor pressit vs hot dog

which is best, or different? one cannot assume more spendy is better for "live" use. im a lil worried about these apps being cpu heavy and thats the last thing i need for a kompressor u dig. or any other live kompz? i play stick but amd gonna be running synths and other stuff too. i lean towards the hot dog model if its subtle enough but good for live bass for example.... thanks yall ios ers

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  • I recommend AUFX:Push. It compresses, it expands, it noise gates, it limits, it side-chains, it saturates, it pumps, it's universal, it's made in Sweden.

  • kool.... looks dope as well

  • The Korvpressor is a wonderful compressor. Don't let the minimalist interface fool you. Awesome for taming guitar distortion and ensuring smooth bass and vox recording into a DAW. I would imagine it should be able to do the same live. And it hardly makes a blip in my overall CPU usage.

    Sweet audio sausage all the way :)

  • @eustressor I'm curious how exactly do you set you Korvpressor for Vox recording, and Bass recordings? Your music sounds so good, I want mine to sound like yours.

  • Thanks and The low cpu point is really key because I basically go bannana's after the comppressor. I just wanted a good clean transparent compressed signal, also it helps the tracking of pitch to midi apps a lil.

  • @NoiseHorse said:
    eustressor I'm curious how exactly do you set you Korvpressor for Vox recording, and Bass recordings? Your music sounds so good, I want mine to sound like yours.

    Yes, me too, me too :)

  • edited September 2015

    @NoiseHorse - Thank you for your kind words :) Oh, and @JohnnyGoodyear, months of randomly sneaking in plugs for Bebot! in 72pt bold font finally paid off. I bought it. It's good! You could have just mentioned that it has a nice theremin and I would have been on it ages ago ...

    Regarding Korvpressor settings, well, it's all relative. I don't know if I've actually made any presets. But for vocals, guitar and bass, it's essentially the same setting. I leave the Input tube as is when you fire it up, I make the "Sausage" tube roughly 2/3 to half the Input tube's height, and make my Output tube slightly taller (10-20%, maybe) than the Input tube.

    After setting it up roughly thus, test your signal visually in Korvpressor. The signal coming out of the Sausage tube and appearing in the Output tube should be much smoother than the signal in the Input tube, but there should still be mild variation visible in the waveform. If it's completely flatlined with no ups or downs, you're squeezing the Sausage tube too hard.

    Once your Sausage reaches the desired visible texture, test out a few takes in your iDAW of choice. Vocals should sound smooth, retaining some transients but mostly avoiding volume spikes and dips. Overdriven guitar power chords should no longer be drowned out by the chug-thump of the cabinet simulator's speakers on a muted E string. And bass - look at your levels in the DAW. There should be an initial attack and then it should settle down just a decibel or two and sit pretty on sustained notes - really helps even out picked and/or thumped bass notes.

    The idea is to save yourself a good deal of riding the faders during mix. Maybe punch up a chorus or solo here or there, but those zillion-point trigacalculus-looking automation lines should for the most part be in your rear-view, just by adding the right amount of compression to the signal on its way in.

    And if you do all this and like it, SAVE THE PRESET, because I never do! Then if you have a song where you want more vocal or instrument dynamics than usual, just loosen your squeeze on the Sausage tube until it suits your taste :)

  • @eustressor

    Bebot!

    I know it's childish, but I never imagined my future would see me nodding wisely to myself over sentences such as this:

    Once your Sausage reaches the desired visible texture, test out a few takes in your iDAW of choice.

    Good, quick tute however, and thank you for that.

  • I deliberately left out any mention of me wanting to squeeze my sausage just like yours @eustressor, and now I feel sleazy and weirder than usual. Nonetheless I shall attend to my sausage squeezing in the manner you prescribed.

  • HA Ha yawl are funny. I liked calling the one compressor the hot dog but for totally innocent reasons. I am leaning towards that one but wonder why they just released this last compressor so soon after. thx

  • @oceansinspace

    different horses for different courses - single and multiband compressors do different jobs. Why one so soon after the other? 'Cos Kevgr are cool like that :) (+1 to AUFX:Push too - great app - it lets you sidechain using Audiobus or IAA - that alone must be worth some sort of award)

    I'll let the wizards from Sound On Sound take over at this point with a couple of their excellent in-depth articles on compression and multi-band compression

    https://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep09/articles/compressionmadeeasy.htm

    https://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug02/articles/multiband.asp

  • So the hot dog is not multi band? I thought it had some eq at least? From a caveman: Which would you get for live bass (example) with low cpu.

  • xenxen
    edited September 2015

    the multiband refers to the compression - PressIt lets you apply different compression ratios to three bands across the frequency spectrum. Hot Dog does have eq, to let you adjust the overall balance of frequencies the app works with - but you can only apply one set of compression settings across the whole frequency spectrum. So with live bass, Hot Dog will let you even out the dynamics that come from playing variations - i.e. squashing loud notes down which will let you bring up the overall volume to raise the level of quieter or 'under plucked' notes to get a more even take.

    Pressit would work well on a mix of the bass and guitar where the guitarist has gone a bit too mad with the feedback and you want to compress just those wild higher frequencies without killing the dynamics in the bass line (for example)

  • @oceansinspace said:
    So the hot dog is not multi band? I thought it had some eq at least? From a caveman: Which would you get for live bass (example) with low cpu.

    I wouldn't go for the multiband for bass, just a guess but I would say it uses more CPU, but I haven't checked out the others and compression is a subjective field, some colour, some transparent etc. but squashit is nice on bass for warm saturation, that I can recommend.

  • @oceansinspace Go with the hot dog. Multi-band compression is more for mixes than individual instruments. And you can't go wrong with audio sausage on your instrument.

  • Thanks guys, and damn early primus (aka sausage) was like the best band ever. Anyone remember riddles are abound tonight? Sick

  • My fave is "Sailing the Seas of Cheese" :)

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