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iConnectMIDI4+ Query
after all of this time what is the consensus on the quality, and ease of set up? also can it be used without a computer as a midi merger box for hardware synths?
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Never tried it as a MIDI merger box so don't know. Love mine and use it daily, with iPad4, MacBook Pro and often a LaunchKey 61 in the USB plugin. Had some crackle and pop issues to start with, was quickly resolved with the help of iConnectivity support. They were great. I'm kinda old school and mainly use the front panel for much of what I do. Have started to use the iConfig software recently and its been working fine as well, but I am not stretching it by any means.
It's awesome. One of the best bits of gear I've bought
Top quality build by the way!! And support are top too
I use mine for all sorts of thing, very versatile
thanks guys, MirEko do you know if it can be used as a midi merger box while not connected to the computer?
Think you can use the iconfig software (on the iPad) to set up routings.
is the iOS SW iConfig ready?
I know it's not.
I have the iconnectmidi2+ ( just recently bought) and an iconnectaudio4+ it seems that you can use the iconfig iPad app to configure midi with both devices but not audio yet.
ah thx carnbot, this is what i waiting for.....
IF! the iOS iconfig is (sometimes) ready and read 2weeks long no more things like this in the iOS9 thread:
i will buy the iCA4+ (again), (i give it back after 2weeks testing)....monthsss later....still no iOS app!, sry thats poor why its called iconnect!....maybe next year...maybe....
Yep, the app doesn't support the ICA4 yet but it's working for the MIDI only models.
They are in public beta for audio support in the iOS app. Here's to hoping!
I don't have a problem with configuring things but I'm actually going through a period right now where that's just the kind of thing I'm trying to avoid. I was planning on getting the midi solutions quadra merger cause it's simple, is powered by the midi port, and there is no setup but then I was thinking that for not much more money there is so much functionality going on in the iconnect4+ that I could tap... but after listening to everybody talk about it it feels like I'm slipping back into that mindset I'm trying to avoid........must ponder.
What is it you're actually trying to do? Just merge and split or do you need actual routing?
I ask because I'm kinda with you on the config thing—just want to play. I found a couple of 1x3 midi merge boxes on craigslist that handle most of my MIDI routing chores for my current set up. The problem always comes in when I want to change the set up quickly because I have very few boxes with actual MIDI THRU jacks these days.
I'm looking at this one http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIDImerge4
basically I'm trying to merge the midi of 4 ext hardware pieces of which the iPad is one and will be sequencing all of them via a hardware sequencer, the quadra is the least complicated box I've found so far but the price I think should be about half of what it is for what it does. I guess they can charge this much cause there don't seem to be allot of other options out there that are just as simple, then I was thinking hey the iconnects will have me sending signals here there and everywhere and that would be quite cool but like I said I initially was trying to turn off that part of my brain lol
If the iPad is the master and controlling several devices you want the MS thru box, not the merger. Thru ports repeat everything that arrives at the In port. Your iPad MIDI Out will go to the Thru box In and each Thru box Thru will go to each devices MIDI In.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIDIthru4
The iConnectMIDI4+, out of the box, is configured to be a thru box to everything so everything connected gets messages from everything connected. It also requires external power which the MIDISolutions box does not.
actually I need to keep all of the devices as the master as well as the ipad cause I'm recording incoming and outgoing midi messages from each of the devices on their own tracks.
Yep, the thru box should be all you need.
Hey, I got wind of this thread and thought I'd clear this up for iConnectivity.
The iConfig software for iConnectMIDI4+ is fully functional and totally sold. It works on MAC, PC, and iOS.
iConfig for iConnectAUDIO4+ (that's our audio and MIDI interface) also works really on Mac and PC. It's only the iPad version that's still in beta.
Also, using iConnectMIDI4+ standalone without a computer is really simple: configure it once, save it to the interface's flash memory, and forget about the software moving forward.
About plugging it in. Well, you have to bear in mind that the iConnectMIDI4+ is routing multiple high-res audio channels between up to three computers (Mac/PC/iOS)...to say nothing of its 29 internal 16-channel MIDI ports...so sure it's gonna need more power than a 5-pin MIDI cable can provide!
Feel free to ask any other questions - I'll keep an eye on this thread. Hope this helps.
Sorry, I missed this message. That's kind of a tall order. The merge box you're looking at isn't going to help you get the MIDI back out to your devices. So presuming you'll need someway to solve for that and presuming at least two of your devices doesn't support MIDI THRU, something like the ICM4 sounds like exactly what you need. If they all have dedicated THRU ports and only one will ever be the master playback source you could use the merge box to get signals there and daisy chain the THRUs to distribute it back out. Or get the merge and the thru boxes! Or just get the ICM4 and be done with it.
thanks Syrupcore, the hardware sequencer I'm using is the mpc 2500 so it's got 2 midi ins and 4 midi outs so I'm thinking of running the 4 midi outs back to their perspective instruments.
Thank you for the info Nick I appreciate it.
iOS9 users might want to read this:
http://iconnectivity.com/vanilla-forum/discussion/comment/1176#Comment_1176
Hopefully this situation is not permanent for this version of iOS and OS X. iConnectivity has really been filling an interesting niche that's exactly the sort of thing that Apple really needs to be encouraging to drive adoption of their iPads as professional devices.
I'm pretty disappointed in the turn of events referenced in the above link. It's not iConnectivity's fault, and it really takes one of the main selling points for the iConnectAudio4+ and useless for Mac users with iOS devices they want to interconnect or for iOS users with two devices.
Sadly for me, after failing to get the word about this, I just updated my iPad Air from iOS 8.4.1 and have no way to downgrade now that 9.1 breaks my ability to use it alongside my MacBook Air or my shiny new iPad Pro.
It's nice that the CoreAudio updates that caused this issue probably enabled Logic users to treat their iPads as sound sources over a lightning cable: http://audionewsroom.net/2015/10/how-to-record-your-ios-device-into-your-mac-daw-on-ios-9-os-x-10-11-welcome-inter-device-audio.html.
In all fairness, there are probably quite a few people who'll be able to take advantage of that, potentially even more than those of us who've used this specific piece of hardware.
But this update has really bitten quite a few of us who have an existing iConnectAudio4+ that worked flawlessly just a few weeks ago and were anticipating the iConfig app to let us use a couple of iOS devices without a Mac to boot.
To paraphrase what I've heard others say: this kind of update makes software solutions for live performance feel unreliable and fragile. Any software update from the OS to one of the apps to the firmware on an interface can take a stable workflow that took hours to work out and render it useless.
The problem is - I believe - an issue with adhering to the USB standards (or lack thereof) on Apple's part in the iOS9 and El Capitan releases. Since, of course, this all worked before, there is hope that it will work once again when Apple fixes the problem.