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zMors Modular vs AnalogKit vs Audulus
Have none of these but wish to get one, so what are the pro/cons of these, please?
Thank you
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I have Zmors and Audulus. Zmors I love, but have to use it through IAA as it does not seem AB compatible at the moment. Audulus is just too complex for me to get my head around.
Not tried Analogkit yet.
Zmors has a nice selection of presets to help get your head around it. Audulus can download some off the net, but I've found many don't work well.
Jasuto is a modular synth, on sale now for 99 cents! Looks like it is due for an update. I can't help with any comparisons though.
I couldn't get on with Jasuto - but for the current price it's worth a go if you don't have it.
Analogkit looks the best bet of the three mentioned, I'm hoping to get that one today.
I'm hoping that Analogkit gets lots of support and the sharing side of it takes off. Yep I will be lazy and let the folks with the great maths skills do the complex bits lol
Does it need a lot of maths skill to use it to it's full potential? I'm crap at maths...
I've been keeping an eye on other conversations regarding Analogkit. Those with better brain cells than myself. I seem to get the idea that if you want to really get deep with it, then some maths are involved. Saying that, I don't think it's essential to use and many will post modules to share. I may have got it all wrong though.
I see Jasuto has IAPs. Are they essential to getting use out of it?
I'm pretty sure all the Jasuto's IAP are included in the sale
I have zMors and Analogkit, and I think both are great. Try watching some youtube demos and tutorials
zMors does not support AB at the moment but has some unique modules similar apps don't have: sampler, IAA host, advanced midi sequencer, custom UI module, Pure Data module and many more - http://www.zmors.de/module-overview/
I only started learning Analogkit... I think AK looks and feels more like a hardware modular synth and zMors - more like a software product. I love how you can create and then re-use your own modules in AK - awesome feature. Also, they have a portal where you can publish your own modules and projects and download those created by others.
zMors has MIDI out and AK - does not though I think it will be added soon.
Get both if you can
Of the three modulars in the original post, Audulus is the only one of the three that works on an iPhone. Version three is almost here too! :-) There is a FANTASTIC ensemble chorus preset that is worth the cost of the tool on its own.
You can try Modular Synthesizer for free! $8 IAP unlock's it all
If I could only have one, it would be a choice between Audulus and AnalogKit. Audulus is beautiful, works on the iPhone and has a great community. However it's annoyingly limited, the sub-module system is irritating and for some reason I'm never that inspired when using it.
AnalogKit is less pretty (though engaging to look at for some reason), but it's just fun to use. I don't even know why. Possibly the crazy enthusiasm of the developers (I asked them for a PWM module - they built one in the tool and shared it with me. Like wow), the fact that they built a flappy bird game using this toolkit and provided it as an example (do I need it. No. But I love that it's thre), or the fact that when I looked at the lowpass filter I realised I could open it up and see the components that drove it. Yep, you can build your filters in this tool if you have the math.
Other stuff that is neat. The interface for building sub-modules is great, it has a nice mixture of step sequencers and interface elements. Midi in seems pretty solid so far, with midi out promised (the possibilities, oh the possibilities).
That said, ZMors Modular also has some nice features. It probably has a better collection of modules, if at a higher level than Audulus. It also comes with a range of step sequencers, pianoroll, etc. It has more synthesis options with physical modelling and granular supported. For some reason I find it less engaging, but I couldn't tell you why.
For the money I don't think Modular Synthesis is worth it. Sound quality is inferior, the interface is annoying and it has fewer options. But Jasuto at $1 is worth a punt, if only for the iPhone access.
I wished they'd make Tassman for the ipad
The funnest thing with modular synthesizers is playing with them after you put something together, which is why I'm spending time playing with analog kit. Audulous feels too fiddley to play with, once you'd made a patch. Zoom in on a knob, turn it, zoom out, scroll over for a while to another control, zoom in, turn it, zoom out. If you don't zoom way in, you usually end up moving the module around or disconnecting a cable. Too painful, sorry. If they could sort out the knob turning to be easy I'd like to use it again.
Also, none but very basic example projects are provided, and a couple crazy, giant masters degree projects. Kinda on your own.
Analog kit's levels of containment do a nice job of hiding the spaghetti of wires ( like reason, where you flip the rack around to wire things up), and leaving a panel of reasonably sized controls, when you're ready to play. Because of the container system it is easy to reuse modules you or someone else has made. It comes with a good group of tutorial projects, some typical synths, and a bunch of fun, weird noise demo projects, and the Swap Meet community aspect is amazing, being able to download other people's creations from within the app.
Stability wise, audulous is superior, though. It is mature and has had the bugs worked out.
Hope that helps!
I wished they'd make Tassman for the Desktop, BIGGER! Love it but the UI, hurts my eyes.
I'm getting used to Thesys, I can get used to anything after that lol
Useful comments - I didn't think about the playability aspect - probably the most important part! Analogkit's containers would definitely be a big plus for me, thanks for sharing your experiences.
I use one of those cheap pointy devices and it works great for me.
zMors Modular also has a container system for custom modules...
I haven't used Zmors, and I'm slowly thawing to AnalogKit. Just wanted to give Audulus a shout out cuz I bought it primarily as an educational tool to learn about synths and programming from the virtual ground up, and it more than delivered. The developer's main synth tutorial plus studying the user patches from the forum and then finally fiddling around were all of great use in teaching me the abcs and a bit beyond.
+1, this. Audulus, the dev, and the community are incredible. zMors modular, the dev, incredible. AnalogKit, dev team, SwapMeet incredible again, damn it! An embarrassment of riches. Huge musical and synth learning opportunities. Just like Pokemon ya gotta get em all
Thank you guys
Audulus plus all iap is a bit pricey thing, too.
Inclined for zmors and audiokit, now
@Goozoon. I use one of those cheap pointy devices and had my iPad hooked up to my studio monitors today. Had one of the Zmors presets and was going crazy with settings. My speakers were shaking the room with a lovely sequenced bass line....just wonderful.
any love for rrarrow? it's a bit opaque in terms of the GUI- but the audio results are very out there- easy dalek voice type of stuff-
@setAI There's a bit of a capitol investment with all of the modular synth apps but once you get the hang of how to edit presets with rrarrow it can be pretty useful as you can have any number of inputs, don't have to mess with app wires getting in your way, the module bits don't slide around when you try to perform with the app, and the can control the sliders via midi cc which is color coded.
very insightful comments here, thank you all. Myself I couldn't really appreciate any modular synth app yet because of - as some already have pointed out - the user interface. The patches sound nice sometimes, but I never really managed to control or play them like I wished.
Just as a comparison, with a fairly simple Lemur template I can play and control a real modular system or a Reaktor ensemble very nicely. As a performer, this is most important.
So I restrict the usage of these apps to static effects like tremolo or Audulus' fantastic VP330 human voice filter bank. I'm simply waiting for a price drop of AnalogKit to try it out, but I'm not sure if that one will be any better in sound or usability.
AnalogKit has MIDI learn. It's not perfect but seems to work ok with apps like TouchOSC. I hope they will improve it in the future
Does AnalogKit have a controllable wave shaper? I don’t own it and there’s no available manual on their quite limited web site.
I’m finished with Adults (iOS and OSX) as it just moves things each time I adjust something, and I calculate that 80% of all the time on Adults is me moving stuff back where I had it. Total waste of time.
Zmors modular has a rudimentary ‘wavetable’ module that lacks any CV control of nodes, so that’s off the table for now.
Audulus sounds strange sometimes, like old pluggos or old max,
and it doesn't support link
I don't use it anymore.
I used Audulus for a while yesterday - it's been a while - and had a similar frustration trying to edit knobs. I was thinking it was user inexperience - it still might be - but editing knobs on the fly, which is what I do, was not a feel good experience at all.
I also own the desktop version, in the hopes that I would do my programming there. The fellow who designed it is pretty damn smart, and it is a beautiful product. I think I need to spend more time with it, or let it go...