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MIDI over BlueTooth???
Decided to try out MIDI over BlueTooth, using iOS MIDI controller apps to control Logic Pro X, and have been getting lag pretty consistently.
Example: Using ChordPolyPad to simply control a patch in Alchemy, goes along fine, then notes start having significant delay. Happens pretty frequently too.
Not a huge deal because it's not live performance or anything, but still I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing, or maybe it's CPU resources or something??? I have no idea at this point, and only just now learned to even set up a connection over BlueTooth.
Anyone have any experience using MIDI over bluetooth? I had the understanding that it is better than a Network connection, is that true?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
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I've been experimenting using MidiMittr to manage my BTLE MIDI connections and so far it has behaved very well, over an hour or more of continuous noodling.
Caveat: Have not had such luck using MidiMittr or Apollo and Audiobus Remote at the same time. ABR loses cntact and the entire Audiobus session has to be discarded and builtup again.
Are there any other BT devices in your pairing list that are powered up, like a headset or speaker? Perhaps another device is trying to connect and creating a conflict - and that could be on either your iPad or computer - ?
keyboard is all.
I was reading somewhere that WiFi connections have a much higher transfer rate, but that blue tooth is more reliable.Mostly when I try to use a Bluetooth dongle in my laptop some other wireless devices stop working, like my WiFi or wireless mouse.I stopped experimenting using Bluetooth, because of these strange interference problems. Why not try midi over WiFi with an adhoc or WiFi direct connection for the best result.Works great without any noticeable latency.
I do have one of those Apple Trackpads that connect over Bluetooth. Maybe that's interfering. I think I'll try WiFi.
Or ditch the Trackpad? Personally, I have minimal latency using Bluetooth via Apollo.
I've been controlling ios apps from a second ios device (4th gen ipad and iphone 4s) using lemur and thumbjam over Apollo Bluetooth. Works like a charm. Maybe bluetooth between ios device and laptop works differently.
Decided to try a wired connection with Studiomux. Was trying to avoid extra apps, but this one is made by the developers of Touchable, a well regarded Ableton controller. Pleased with it so far, had a few apps bug out when trying to send audio (yes, you can send audio with the same connection), and it also shows up as "audiomux" in AudioBus (old name I guess), but it seems solid. Really easy to set up too.
Jumping in here (I'm the developer of Apollo MIDI over Bluetooth). Apple's Bluetooth support has been evolving rapidly -- they were one of the early adopters of BT4.0, and things have changed under the hood for pretty much every iOS and OS X version. Support for add-on USB BT adapters for Macs has been all over the place. On Yosemite, there was some sort of bug that would allow a Bluetooth connection to be made once (and only once(!)).
Apple rolled out their own MIDI over Bluetooth solution a while back, which sort of killed any chance I had of making a buck off of Apollo, so I've made the app free -- I'll try to keep it up to date, but it's comparatively low priority now.
For MIDI from iOS to iOS, either Apollo or Apple's solution are good ways to go -- and the same is true for iOS to Mac.
I've shifted my focus to USB connections -- working with the MIDI Designer and MIDI Bridge developers on "Music IO" -- we have a free version that supports bi-directional MIDI, and a paid version that also does audio. This supports both Mac and PC, and we should have an update out in a few days. And then another update in a couple of weeks that might surprise people a bit....
The built in Bluetooth seemed pretty weak, in terms of connection and setting up. I have made note of Music IO, and may even check it out anyways, like I say Studiomux was acting funny with some apps. Thanks for the information.
Thing is, even with this usb connection midi still leaves a lot to be desired, mostly because many developers seem rather careless in their implementation. Too many functions missing (clock sync, where are you?) in too many apps.