Don't want live-monitoring, please help

eccecelllo

Hi there! of course i am in love with audiobus, but as every couple, we have some troubles sometimes, here is mine:

I work with loopy, i set "headphone monitoring" OFF, because i already have another output for my instrument, and the i-device output introduces delay and noise.

When i use an effect with audiobus (Input=mic, Effects=Glitch1 or Jamup, Output=Loopy), even if the Loopy monitoring is OFF, and the effects are also OFF (pressing the little button in the floating audiobus window), and the effect app itself is paused or volume down... even so, i have live monitoring of my instrument thru the idevice. and that's very undesirable and lows down the quality of my performance sound when i use audiobus.

I just can afford some extra noise when i use an effect, but not meanwhile all is deactivated and i just want clean sound.
There shouldn't be audio coming out from audiobus, if you have NOT selected the "Speaker output" as an output. Am i wrong?

I hope there is a solution for this coming my beloved audiobus.
Otherwise i will sleep in the sofa for some days.

Thanks in advance!

david

eccecelllo

Ryan

Hi @eccecello . Sorry no one responded to your post. I am not sure what the problem you are having is.. I didn't understand. You don't want to be able to hear what you are doing?

funjunkie27

I often have the problem that others don't want to hear what I'm doing, but I'm a bit more masochistic than most, I guess. ;-)

gamuso

hallo ryan, thanks a lot for your answer.

DON'T want live monitoring of my plugged instrument.
just the effects.
and when i deactivate the effects... i want silence from my i-device. so i can play with a clean sound using the direct signal to the amp that i have plugged to my instrument.

that's why some apps have a tap named "headphone monitoring" to turn it ON/OFF.

i never get to be understood with my english! i hope this helps.

[Deleted User]

Do you have an effects send output and input on your amp?

eccecelllo

i'm so sorry i don't explain my self right.

i apply the effects INTO audiobus. with this config:

-- Input=mic, EFFECTS=Glitch1 or Jamup, Output=Loopy --

I SIMPLY DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO MY INSTRUMENT thru the i-device WHEN ALL THE EFFECTS ARE SET OFF. AND ALSO "headphone monitoring" IS SET OFF into loopy.

i have a second direct cable from my instrument plugged into the amp. don¡t want to ruin it adding another delayed and noisy signal from the i-device.

the sound is like water, right? and what audiobus does, is to redirect that water into other apps. but if you close all the faucets, ALL OF THEM, why is audiobus still letting water go out?

it is like a leakage. isn't it?

Michael_R_Grant

I don't think this is possible. You selected the mic as input, so... um... that's why the sound is being picked up. Turning the effects off gives you a "clean" audio signal, that's what the toggle is for. It's not to turn all the sound off from your input, it's to enable and disable the effects on it.

funjunkie27

Audio O/P isn't only available with the O/P slot set to Speaker...any app in the O/P slot will produce sound. Why not just turn your volume down on your iPad?

eccecelllo

@michael_r_grant
No no.

if sound were water, it only would go out from the audiobus circuit if i set SPEAKER OUTPUT in audiobus. otherwise the water doesn't go out. an example, if i set:

-- Input=mic, EFFECTS=nothing, Output=Loopy --

then you DON'T listen "live monitoring" at all. because it is set OFF in Loopy.

BUT ...when you add any effect in that configuration, then you listen "live monitoring". EVEN IF THE EFFECTS APP IS SET OFF. or has the volumen set to 0.

so the water leaks from audiobus, not from any other app.

@funjunkie27
you mean to turn down the volume each time i play a solo?? and how will i listen to my loops??

""...any app in the O/P slot will produce sound.""

the apps i use for effects, when used alone, they don't let my clean signal be heard at all, if set to OFF or mute them. or set "live monitoring" to OFF. only when i apply effects

the water leak is from audiobus.

[Deleted User]

Audio signals are not water.

1) Plug the effects send from your app into the iPad input.
2) Plug the iPad output into the effects return on your amp.
3) Use the effects channel switch on your amp to sectect clean/effects as desired.

If that doesn't work, stick a bucket under your iPad...

eccecelllo

then why do have we audio bus? why it was invented?

it's exactly a virtual signal routing app.

it's supposed to do what paulB explains, but virtually.

i repeat: i use the audio output of my i-device to HEAR THE LOOPS i record live and to add effects to my instrument. if i do as paulB proposes, each time i switch OFF the return in my amp, then I WON'T HEAR THE LOOPY OUTPUT from my i-device.

be like water my friend. but if you want me to be pragmatic:

audiobus has an audio signal leak.

Will

I haven't tried it but on reading this, I think @eccecelllo is correct. If Loopy is last in the AB chain and Loopy has 'live monitoring' off, seems to me he shouldn't hear anything coming out of his iPad until he plays a loop in Loopy.

eccecelllo

thank you syrupcore!

i will drink a glass of water to celebrate that finally i got understood.

i thought it was a simple concept, but with my english it seems i don't explain it good.

[Deleted User]

Audiobus doesn't control how apps route audio internally, it just provides alternative ports for the apps to use. This sounds like a Loopy issue to me.

eccecelllo

@paulb you are right. thanks for the point. i tried other apps as audiobus output, and they cut the audio signal when desired.

i will ask michael from loopy.

thanks a lot to everybody, and sorry for so much water.

Westwind

Just had to say that this was a very nicely poetic discussion, thank you!