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Fun with Secret Base Design apps
Yesterday I got to playing around with Apollo Midi Over Bluetooth, Apollo Remote Recorder, and Apollo Sound Injector. The challenge was to run midi from MultitrackStudio on my iPad to Alchemy synth on my iPhone, and then record that audio back to the DAW on my ipad... all in real time. Alchemy with expansions is far to large to run on my iPad along with all of my other apps, so this is a nice way to be able to continue to use the synth without taking up all of the gigs of space required.
The basics:
I opened audiobus on both the iPhone and iPad, then:
iPhone audiobus input: Alchemy, output: Apollo Remote Recorder
iPad audiobus input: Apollo Sound Injector, output: MultitrackStudio
Then establish the network link between Apollo Remote Recorder and Apollo Sound Injector
For midi, I had to set up virtual midi in MultitrackStudio on the midi track as an output, then use Network Session 1 for the Midi Over Bluetooth settings on both devices, and in Alchemy.
For some reason, when I tried to set up Midi Over Bluetooth before Apollo Remote Recorder and Apollo Sound Injector, the midi connection would be lost. I had to set up Midi Over Bluetooth AFTER to get it to work.
Anyway, after I set everything up and got a new audiotrack recording the AB input from Sound Injector, the whole thing worked with little to no latency recorded on the track.
These are really great, useful apps if you have the need to do something like this, and don't mind doing a little fiddling.
Comments
For the Synthmaster contest, I used Midimorphisis to do all my synth tracks. It worked pretty slick.
So.........This was ll done over bluetooth, right? No wi-fi needed? I have Apollo remote, but I think we are the last house in the country to not have wi-fi.
So, you used your ipad, to control Alchemy on yer ipod? I'm trying to make it simple for me.
Apollo Midi Over Bluetooth doesn't require wifi, and you can control a synth between iOS devices. Apollo Remote Recorder and Apollo Sound Injector requires a home network/wifi. But if you don't have wifi, you could just use Midi Over Bluetooth and then record the audio on the device the synth is on into AudioShare. Then you would have to transfer that file back to the other device and import it into your DAW manually. You will lose the real-time recording aspect with that approach, which is less convenient but will still work just fine.
I need to try the updated MusicIO & see if it improved. The new Studiomux connects perfectly for MIDI now with no apparent latency, I think this type of software is entering a good phase finally where all this stuff will just work.
Glad you're having fun with the apps!
WRT Remote Recorder -- it has a built in audio recorder (and a built in web server), and you can control recording with a MIDI note on/off to channel 16. When I first designed it, it was before we had ways to stream audio over USB, and we didn't even have WiFi streaming. The idea was to let people play synths on their iOS devices (using either wired MIDI, WiFi MIDI, or Bluetooth MIDI) -- and by setting one of the tracks to have a single note on channel 16, you could turn on and off recording, and get a perfectly timed sample on the iOS device itself.
Once you had the recording, just point the web browser to the iOS device, and you can grab the recording, and then drop it into the DAW. I've got a Mac app called Remote Sync, that handles the connection and transfer automatically.
As it turned out, I don't know that anyone but me ever used that functionality! I realized that sending the recording over WiFi took a lot less time than the actual recording -- so streaming of audio over WiFi was totally within range, and that's where Sound Injector came into the picture.
After that.... wound up talking to Nic from Audeonic and Dan from Confusion Studios (MIDI Bridge and MIDI Designer, respectively), and we realized we had all the right people to pull off MIDI and audio over USB -- and that's where the Music IO team came from. The Remote Recorder/Sound Injector work is on the back burner while I focus on Music IO, and Apollo MIDI over Bluetooth is really on the back burner, now that we've been Sherlocked by Apple on that. Still have some tricks up the sleeve, though. Music IO would be the thing to watch in the next month or two (yes, we just sent out an update, but there's a lot more in the pipeline).