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BIAS PEDAL: new FREE (?) app
Just launched! And it;s [almost] FREE!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bias-pedal/id1020011770
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sure...
Yes, i see the same bug. But there's no problems in using it within Audioshare as IAA-plugin.
I gave it a quick shot. Works in AB on Air1/iOS8 into Loopy. It's quite a big one. Over 400MB. Nice sounding free pedals. IAP is 19,99. It could be loaded into BiasFX which I don't have...
Seems very expensive just to have the ability to design your own pedal. I'll give it a go but I'm more into clean guitar sounds so it might be the first time I pass on a guitar app!
I think I'll wait for a sale. I am more than happy with the sounds I can get out of Bias FX ATM. I want to get it, but I shall wait.
I wonder if it'll be a synth or Drum app next? Or there was a hint at some other sort of Mastering type thing on their FB page a few weeks ago.
Forgive me if i'm profoundly ignorant, but it seems to me distortion pedals are redundant with amp emulation. The purpose of drive and distortion pedals on a pedalboard is to emulate amps, on the cheap, so to speak. No need for that here. I'm not even sure why they made them, except as a money grab, which knowing this outfit, makes sense
. Don't get me wrong, BIAS is AWESOME.
I get that, makes sense. I never had a lot of equipment growing up. I had a few guitar amp, didn't care for the distortion on any of them. I bought pedals to achieve the sound I was looking for. Only a few though. Damn things were expensive. I always wanted to make a pedal board, but it seemed kinda dumb to do with 3 or 4 pedals.
Actually, very few rockers late 60s forward didn't have at least some kind of pedal to, more or less, overdrive the overdrive, from Jimi Hendrix using the Big Muff distortion pedal straight through to Alex Lifeson or Neil Young's current, massive "pedal boards," giant containers for a customized chain of many, many pedals. Some for overdrive, some for modulation, etc ...
Even in my amp emulation app of choice (the completely awesome and completely nexted JamUp Pro), I have virtual pedals going into my virtual amp
I just want an app equivalent of Vernon Reid and Doug Wimbish's rigs:
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Rig_Rundown_Living_Colours_Vernon_Reid_Doug_Wimbish
+1 for a Vernon Reid patch
Not ignorant, I understand your point. You are saying that in real life, you have perhaps one or a small handful of amps to plug into, so pedals were introduced to provide a new gain stage or a new tone or effect that the preamp itself doesn't offer. So with modeling, why do we need that when the program itself can be any collection of different amps or presets.
That's very true, except that with real pedals (of which I have dozens too many), guitarists will tell you that introducing a Tubescreamer to an AC30 is different than using one with a Fender Bassman, or MESA Dual Rectifier, and so on.
So, it's a freemium 400MB app with a $19.99 IAP that unlocks "Distortion" effects only? And then you import that into BIAS FX? Can you do anything with the app for free?
Since I do have BIAS FX, I do at least like that you can import it into that app, rather than trying to chain some clumsy FX thing through AudioBus. AudioBus FX are great for the closed environment of synths, samplers, etc., but introduce complicated guitar modeling through an interface, then a guitar app, then FX...it's just ripe for latency or performance issues.
I don't know what to make of this one yet.
Using any of the 6 amps in the 'Amp Room' section, I found the tone to be somewhat 'hard' with all the distortion pedals.
It's great that they've offered quite a few pedals in this free version, but precluding Bias users by only letting you open the pedals in Bias FX is a significant fail, in my view.
I used to use a MXR micro-amp to try to get some overdrive out of my Simms Watts 100 watt head and I know people did the same with Marshall heads, back in the olden days.
That's not surprising to me. One thing that I notice when using effects across all the different iOS guitar apps is that they seem to add a lot more gain/clipping than they probably should for what they are. And don't even bother trying to put a real life pedal in front of your interface and driving the clean amp models - it just causes a clipped out distorted mess.
I'll check it out as much as I can, but I'm a little skeptical. As a pedal nerd (well, I play them, I don't MAKE them), I totally understand the appeal, but that doesn't mean the execution of it is any good.
Isn't PG getting too complicated?
We have:
Am I missing something?
I just want to play!
I gave it whirl, and actually it really does sound pretty good, some very meaty tones and you get a whole bunch of pedals for free. Definitely worth a download.
You just have to zone it all out.
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They better not come out with a mastering app when they have one out that doesn't work correctly.
It looks to me that this only works in Bias? Please correct me if I'm wrong!
Yeah, I officially have no idea what Positive Grid is doing with their product lineup. On the one hand, this is a FREE app that now offers 6 BIAS amplifiers (no reverb, though) and an assortment of decent drive pedals without even purchasing the IAP.
But I don't even know which of the PG products I'm supposed to keep installed on my iPad. All of them? BIAS FX, with BIAS Amp or BIAS Pedal installed only when I want to design something and import it over?
The original BIAS (Amp) seems like it should have been the central landing point for all of this content. Why couldn't these other things have been built as IAP's, and kept as only one app? (You actually could've made that argument with JamUp vs. BIAS too - BIAS was meant as a redesigned modeling engine, but I actually preferred the work flow of JamUp better). It's just a shame that they've developed all this "stuff", some of which is actually pretty good, but it's so convoluted now that it's refreshing just to load up something like ToneStack or Mobile POD without having to be like: "Oh yeah, that pedal I liked was in the other app".
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Well I still can't get a sound I like out of it. Yes, they've included a fair bit in the free version, but if the sound's not there, I can't see the use for it.
I agree with @StormJH1, Positive Grid aren't doing themselves any favours with this multiple app approach, in my view.
@Igneous1 surely that's a subjective opinion though, there's a big difference between saying you don't like the sounds, and that the emulations and modelling are bad.
I would say that the emulations are objectively excellent, but I completely understand how those sounds might not be someone's cup of tea. Personally I quite enjoyed thrashing around in the app, but I don't use those kinds of sounds on my tracks, so I can play with the free stuff without really needing the IAP.
Richard, what does 'objectively excellent' mean ?
To rephrase, they don't sound 'good' to me (subjectively speaking, of course).
You know, they sound like distortion pedals, I find BIAS to do a (very) good job at modelling, in a way that Jamup for example never was.
Sounds like you don't agree
For someone with the v1 Tonestack Motherload, but no Bias FX apps, is this worth downloading?
Well it's free
It's got quite a few pedals, and 6 amps. You can always delete it if you don't like it.
@Igneous1, just re-read your comment earlier in the thread about finding the tone "hard" - fair enough, maybe I'm not as objective as I'd like to think
Just a warning, on 8.4 Air 2.
Had no problems at all with Bias FX after the update (some insta-crashes were reported in another recent thread). Just downloaded this, and tried to import a preset into Bias FX, and now Bias FX instantly crashes when opened, even after a restart/cache cleansing.
I'll give it a whirl then...
Don't worry, there's a new app coming soon that resolves the issue. ;-)
You mean the legendary BugStomp pedal app isn't just a rumor!?? Off to pre-order, then!
It seems to be 'sleeping' for me in Audiobus, and not working in the FX slot. Probably needs a reboot.