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Using Tone Stack as 2 separate effect units

edited November 2015 in General App Discussion

As per title, I'm using ToneStack in mono for my guitar so I thought if it could be possible to use the 2 channels each for something different I.e. guitar and vocals. Especially that I'm now experimenting with distortion on my voice.

I'm wondering whether anyone's attempted this if at all possible. I'm currently using Magellan as my vocal effect but I wouldn't mind just using ToneStack and saving me some RAM for other things.

Any input/preset much appreciated. Thanks

By the way I'm using akai eie red as my audio interface.

Comments

  • I've never tried it, but I might give it a go later. Sounds like an interesting experiment. I would imagine it's possible as long as Tonestack allows you to specify the input for both chains. Also using the EIE.

  • I just had a quick fiddle and it doesn't seem to work. To be honest I don't understand that channel splitter tool within TS. I mean, I know what it does but the knobs are rather confusing. So I set up input 1/2 in the audio settings, then put the splitter right at the beginning of the chain and set very different effects for both signal paths. What seems to be the problem is the fact that TS mixes both inputs before it even hits the splitter so both signals trigger both effects unless the splitter selector is on A or B in which case both inputs trigger that signal path.

    So seems like a no-goer but if you have some spare time @funjunkie27 to check if I'd missed anything that would be grand. Two heads always better than one.

  • I'm not by my audio interface to check this properly, but I think it can work if you add the ABY pedal first, then make use of the IAA inserts to pipe two separate audio sources into a Tonestack effect chain, each on separate paths. Whether this approach is stable, convenient and saves resources I'm not so sure, but it could be a cool feature to try.

  • I wanted to achieve this a few weeks ago and couldn't get it to work. I searched and searched the internet, and finally found a response from the developer on Yonac's forum. He said Tonestack isn't set up to split an incoming stereo signal, but maybe it would be a feature in the future. Also, does anyone know what the Separation knob does on the ABY pedal? I was hopeful it would split the signal, but then I read it couldn't be done. Fiddled around with it, but couldn't hear what it was doing.

  • Yes @Osidenick the aby tool is not very clear. I was expecting this mission to fail since the effect is primarily devised for guitars. Having said that I'm not sure there's any other fx app on ios that would allow complete channel separation. Ah well. Cheers for feeding back.

  • I think Vecoto is on to something. You'll have to add each signal into TS via IAA after the ABY splitter. I'm pretty sure I have managed to get this working once.

    And cool thing is each effect in the chain becomes possible to trigger on/off via MIDI binding in ToneStack.

  • Cool, I'll definitely give it to go albeit it's probably too complicated to be messing with in my live set up. I actually managed to get a pretty decent vocal distortion out of Magellan and because it has as great midi learn as ToneStack (thanks Yonac!) I can turn it on and off via lpd8. This totally made me sell on my TC helicon X1 effect pedal. One less box to plug in.

  • good stuff. keep in mind if you ever want to add in an effect that has IAA but not so great MIDI implementation, TS might make it workable for you ;-)

  • That's a great tip, thanks @Hmtx

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