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Limiting beats
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I was chatting with a drummer recently and we listened to some beats I've made with iOS apps. The one thing that struck him was how "complex" they were. This got me thinking. I can see that I am almost taking away, by adding too much.
How do you guys keep your beats in check and resist the urge to add more complexity?
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Barely, if at all.
It's really hard when you have access to so much and it's so easy to layer and layer and layer... MORE ME!! One rule of thumb that I remember reading in Keyboard magazine 150 years ago was from Stewart Copeland: "A drummer has two hands and two feet. If your drum parts have more than that, stop and question it for a minute." That's not the exact quote but it was along those lines.
And that's Copeland talking who used all of the above....
I'm a drummer too and as long as it serves the song well, there are no set rules. However, manytimes less is more. keith moon style doesn't work everywhere.
150 years ago
Are you a vampire or David Bowie? Or maybe both?
Would work for me if I didn't have apotemnophilia, but joking aside, makes a lot of sense. It jogged a memory, but sure the similar one I read came from Sound On Sound.
Good call.
Yep maybe I should impose a limit. Maybe six sounds total and just occasional tiny variations of those sounds?
As long as it grooves it doesn't matter. The trouble is that often times busy/complex beats completely lack groove IMO.
Listen to Dj shadow : entroducing. Masterclass of beat programming and he uses very minimal kits but the programming is excellent.
Thanks guys will do some listening and find me groove thang
Thanks for this.
Likewise, that was cool, I'm checking it out throughout the day on spotify. I'm the king of Too many layers
And indeed, at least as I recall Mr. Copeland's quote, he only suggests that once your drum programming goes beyond 4 limbs to stop and consider if it's actually adding to the track.
I'm still working through the utube listing. Maybe I've tried to take in too much, so going to spread it out.
For the first experiment, I'm going to try to emulate the simple feeling I get when I listen to NINs Closer and instead of working on loops. I'm going to take 3 sounds and inter sync them with a strong bassline and see how working on the sounds seperatly helps. Loops maybe not helping as I'm FXing them and maybe not getting good separation. If any of that makes sense lol