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Need help finding app that will double the time of a midi file
Do any of you very helpful peeps now of a Midi app that will double the time of a midi file so that I can run the song at half the current tempo but keep the same timing ? I cannot find an option in Cubasis to do it.
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You could just put the bpm down to the half.
That is not want I meant, Have a tune that is currently programmed in 175 bpm, I want to run it at 87 bpm but for it to sound the same.
The reasoning is so that i can half the pattern length in step sequencers I am adding.
I guess you want an app that can import your midi file then change the file playing speed. If that is the case, you can use MTS then do tempo/time editing to change. A photo for you.
Or doubling
Do you own MIDI Flow? It can send out clock divisions (take a clock source in and send a halved or double or most any factor clock back out).
http://www.midiflow.com/documentation/#routings-modifiers-clock
http://forum.audiob.us/uploads/FileUpload/f0/e88a8afed5378a49daa717f50a6621.png
Now i know what you mean
I don´t think there is a way in iOS to do this beside manual stretching the patterns. But i own not all iOS DAW`s. Maybe the coming Auria Pro will do this. F.e. in my prefered DAW i can double, half or whatever a midi section without changing the bpm. I never saw a feature on iOS yet.
Maybe others here know a tool on iOS
check out MTS! no stretching audio file.
Like @Cinebient said, half the tempo of Cubasis.. Then bounce your Midi part to audio, import it back into Cubasis and reset to original tempo.
Or you can go into the Midi part and (manually) double the spacing between each note.
Which is also to say 'no, I don't know of an app that will do that to a MIDI file.'
Most of the larger desktop MIDI apps have 'compression and expansion' of MIDI events and usually options to also process note length comp/ex. I do not know of an iOS MIDI app that has that sort of MIDI processing.
Would it work to send the MIDI tracks from one app at half the BPM (or double, I'm confused) and capture it in another app at the target BPM? Say, send it out of Cubasis into NanoStudio (at target bpm) and then export the MIDI file?
Don't have either MIDI Flow or MTS....> @syrupcore said:
I hadn't thought of taking this sort of approach. I guess I would run into some sort of sync issue for longer parts (being as it's midi).
Cheers all for the input. What I have done is go outside of iOS, exported my midi to dropbox, and then used Cubase LE to do it.
Any dev's out there without enough to do already fancy writing an app that will Double/Halve tempo, or Double/halve note length or add simulated delay (I saw someone post regarding this recently) to a midi file ? Doesn't need to do any playback, just process the midi and output an updated file.
Anyone got any other useful midi processing that they are missing on iOS ?
Yes, i would like to have MIDI FX in an iOS DAW as well. Logic f.e. has some great additions here. Also for more advanced users an option to script own midi FX would be great too!
These are recorded parts that haven't been quantized, manual editing just messes the timing up, I tried already.
Yes exactly, double the play speed and allow me to halve the bpm to end up in the same place I started but with shorter patterns (half the number of bars).
I can't justify spending £££ on MTS just to do this for this one track though
Nevermind someone already said what I was going to say.....(use 2 daws)
Yes..... but i also wonder now why the hell iOS developers can´t give us such things. It´s really finally time for advanced features to help iOS out of the "toy" area (i know it isn´t but these are the things f.e. holding it really back while those things could be still there).
I wouldn't call this advanced by any stretch of the imagination. This functionality has been available in the first version of Cubase I used back in around 1996. And if you think about it, the only processing involved is halving or doubling any value relating to time within a midi part.
Either they think we do not want these functions or they want us to buy the DAW to get them. I am not of suspicious mind so think it is more likely the former. I have put a feature request in to Steinberg, let's see how that goes
It's also available in Cakewalk 3.0... for DOS! I don't think it's so much that developers can't or won't 'give it to us' but probably more like not many people are asking for it. Most desktop apps that have it can trace their lineage back to the 80s when this sort of stuff was like the primary big ticket feature.
There was a lot of talk about adding this sort of MIDI Processing stuff to NS2. I don't know if he'll get to it. But yeah, comp/ex for time and stuff like velocities, move note a to note b, controller remap, insert crescendo, retrograde... I'd love to see a lot of these sorta old school MIDI features in a modern iOS app.
Auria Pro is bringing some of the old sexy back via the MIDI channel strip. It will offer real time velocity comp/ex/boost/cut, real time quantize and MIDI Delay.
http://www.auriaapp.com/forum/download/file.php?id=396&mode=view
But why takes it then years to get this simple old things into iOS. If developers think we all doesn´t need that things..... mmhhhhh..... sounds a bit too much like the Apple way
IOS is limited, we all know it but all this player, light and whatever half baked apps doesn´t make it really better.... sorry.... little rant over! Back to topic
@syrupcore
'Auria Pro is bringing some of the old sexy back via the MIDI channel strip. It will offer real time velocity comp/ex/boost/cut, real time quantize and MIDI Delay.'
True, true.
'http://www.auriaapp.com/forum/download/file.php?id=396&mode=view'
Amazingly Beautiful! To play with >Midisequencer< and the others ...
I can't speak for developers but with so many hours in a day, they're going to implement the things they think their apps need along with things customers are requesting. If people aren't requesting this sort of MIDI Transforms stuff, why would they add it? Psst: go ask them for it.
Maybe the multitrack version of @MIDISequencer will have this sort of stuff?
This sort of stuff (in case any developers are listening along):
From an ancient windows program:
And from a more modern version of logic (skip to 3:10)
Really helpful for this sort thing is a robust select/filtering engine. Say, select only notes with a velocity over 90 or only notes within N ticks of a down beat... Here's an example Event Filter from Cakewalk 3.0 (1996!):
http://anadyomene-records.com/other/Interpolate_3.01_1994.png
It hasn't changed much in ~20 years. See the Sonar X2 docs
Here's a thread on the Repear forum talking about it generally with lots of example screenshots from other DAWs like Cakewalk, Logic etc. Including Cubase for the Atari St.
http://anadyomene-records.com/other/logical_windows/next_pics/02.png
@AndyPlankton
MidiFilePlayer might be your friend here.
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/midi-file-player/id658197221?mt=8