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iPad Pro= Too Big?
So, I nearly ordered an iPad pro online just by reading specs. I decided I wanted to hold one in person first. Had the chance today at Best Buy and I must say: this thing is f'n massive!!! Maybe even too Massive?
Honestly, it's awkward as hell to hold and it's just ....... Large and unwieldy. How are you guys feeling about it? Anyone have one? Do you get used to the size? Is there advantages?
I really need to upgrade my iPad and I really wanted to get a pro but am now considering an AIR2 on size alone. How much more powerful is the Pro?
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i played with one at the Apple store for 3-4 mins and felt the same... didn't think I would. But I would want to see how it felt with me sitting on a couch with the ipad resting on my legs. It's definitely something to consider.
the Air2 has 2GB Ram i believe, the Pro has 4GB and a slightly faster processor i think... but if an Air came out with the same specs I think I would be more inclined to go that route personally. Good thing I won't be updating my ipad for a year or so i think... give some time to get more reports from users.
I like it. It's not overly large, just large. Takes a bit getting used to.
I couldn't try it myself yet but i KNOW it would be to big/bulky for me.The formfactor of an Air(2)is really appealing to me and the size just about right.
Since I received an Air 2 64GB from the wife earlier this year I'm not really in the market for the upgrade to the Pro, but I looked at it in person on sale to at least see it. You have to right? Well, as the others have said, it is enormous. Cool in a way, but going from my Samsung smartphone screen to the Pro's was comical. But going from the mini and even the Air 2 on display was startling too, but not in a totally positive way. Half the magic of making music on the iOS platform with my Air 2 is the portability and ease of use inherent in it's design. The fact that it is as powerful as a laptop circa 2010-2011 and so small is awesome. The Pro, being as powerful as a laptop circa 2013-2014 and about as large isn't as awesome...
For graphics work the extra size will be an advantage. For current music apps, most (not Sugarbytes) work perfectly well on an Air 2, and for armchair noodling the size is perfect.
I'm hopefully going to try one tomorrow (just out of curiosity) but I doubt I'll change my current opinion. As it's twice the price, it'd have to be twice as good as my Air2, and I doubt that will be the case.
I would more likely use a pro at a desk on a stand and not as a mobile tablet so the scale doesn't bother me, I wouldn't want a pro as my only iPad though.
I read a review on Digital arts that's it's great if you do lots of drawing and painting but for design it's not so good. I can see that being true, touch based design has a long way to go and has no great advantage over the more control you get using desktop laptop systems.
Still want one, but I will probably wait until v2 or 3.
I'll be happy when the Apple Pencil is compatible with the iPad Air 4 next year. The extra grunt and the stylus are appealing, the extra size is not.
I think for the size and the money, I’d be inclined to go for the new Macbook instead (you know, the slim one with no connections). But I still think that Apple are incorrect. People want a touch Macbook. People want to run iOS apps and OS X apps together. People want iPads and MacBooks to be interchangeable, not separate. Apple are plainly lying when they say that their customers don’t want iOS and OS X to combine. It’s a straightforward corporate lie. What they mean is that it’s not easy to do. When they can do it, all of a sudden, their research will suggest their customers want a combined OS and OS X platform. I want a touchscreen Macbook that sometimes doesn’t have a keyboard and can run iOS touch apps, when I’m out and about, so that I can do creativity while I’m sitting on the tube. I also want it to have a keyboard and trackpad and run FCPX, Motion, Compressor and LPX when I’m at home.
I suppose the next step is they’ll introduce an iPad Even More Pro, in which it is the same size as the smaller range of iMacs, and you hold it upright, just like an iMac.
I totally agree with you here (beside the new 12" Macbook is a joke for me)! Even on my current non-touch Macbook Pro i would like to run my iOS apps. I´m sure it could be possible in theory. I would starting to buy more iOS apps then again. Sure, the apps are touch optimized but all of them would work with a trackpad and/or mouse too.
It´s simple a marketing decision! Selling 2 devices get them more of the marge.
I can only talk for myself but i would buy a hybrid in a heartbeat...even when it costs 2 grand or more.
From many threads around the web others seems to think so too.
The facebook consumer might not care and so it will not change........
Well I'm now on day 4 with my iPad pro and I'm blown away with it. Gadget looks gorgeous (even in portrait mode) and as the devs update for the extra screen real estate it will come into its own. The internal speakers are also a nice surprise. I think audio units will define the pro, the smaller airs may seem a bit claustrophobic.
It is difficult to hold though, I have post carpal tunnel tendon damage and now osteoarthritis in both hands so simply holding it on my lap is probably the dumbest thing I could do.
It's all about the accessories, I need a case for use on my lap and a raised stand for tabletop use.
Curious if anyone has the same concerns as me about having such a large screen of light a foot from our faces. I tend to spend hours with my iPads.
Perhaps in a studio, on a stand, in a well lit room it's less of a concern?
I've spent the last 25 years with monitors a couple of feet from my face and my eyesight is totally knackered. Staring at any screen for long periods won't do you any good.
Funny, here in the hinterland of my fifties and with eyes and belly that have both weakened, one of the pros of the Pro (to my mind) is its biggerness to look at (the belly part, as it continues its soft expansion eventually offering a shelf for propping also....)
The Air2 sits at my visual sweet spot, focus-wise. A pro would drift into my 'put your glasses on' zone and defeat the object. The propping things sounds good though, I might start using my belly as a wine shelf
Its just gorgeous. The display is brilliant. Its f.. fast and just a joy to use it, to have that space. And yes handling you have to get used to it. I startet with the Mini because the Air was to big for me this time. Next an Air and no way back to Mini. But if you have an Air 2 I would stay with it. The size of it is a good compromise for my opinion.
I sense/suspect that the notion of waiting for The Two is probably wise. However, I was just fiddling with Cubasis (because Auria was being difficult there for a moment) and remembering some of the things it does do well and realized (for me) one of the ongoing issues I have with it is the feeling that it's too cluttery (technical term). Made me imagine it on the bigger screen...
I find Logic on my 15" MacBook cramped, not sure the bigger pad would suffice my feelings of audio lane claustrophobia. Only when I ran Logic on a 27" iMac did I stop feeling the need to close panels and tidy up all the time.
I'm with @monzo about large sizes being useful. I've got a 27" monitor that makes using Ableton and Logic easier to use. Reviewers are saying the same thing about running music apps on the Pro's 12" screen.
I find the spacing between app icons in Springboard just a bit too large on the Pro, or the icon size too small, or both. As if it were not proportional to the screen size. Any actual Pro users who sense this?
Definately would benefit from 2 more rows & 1 more column but I wouldn't reduce the icon sizes, at this size screen you can still make out what's in your folders. (Screenshot shrunk to under 1m)
Those specs tho. ........ I have a 2011 15 inch MacBook Pro. It may need updated too. I need to figure out what I'm gonna do.
While I love my iPad, I can't see that I'll pick up a pro. I like the small size, and nothing I do requires the extra oomph.
I don't know that Apple is involved in corporate lying. I think they have got themselves into a pickle. We might buy a surface for home use at some time, because my wife is not an apple fan. And I look at that and think, hmm, I get the tablet, with all the 8 bazillion pieces of software that run on Windows. Apple has painted themselves into a corner by having two different operating systems. It's expensive for them, expensive for devs. And they have created this price problem, where software on the one platform sells for a tenth to a quarter what it sells for on the other. There is an imbalance there, that I'm not sure how it's going to work out in the long run.
Be interesting to watch. In the meantime, I'm content with the Air 2. Auria does everything I need, and being on the beta group for Auria Pro, I can tell you that it'll keep doing it for a very long time.
That are good points too! If they would release an iPad Air 3 with the same specs (and pencil support plus maybe 3d-touch) i would prefer it for sure since i like(d) the iPad Pro feeling when i was tesing it in the store but found it a bit too bulky and heavy for a tablet use. And using it just like a notebook makes no sense.
Maybe they’ll release an iPad Pro Mini next year.
My only concern about The Pro is how it impacts (from a marketing strategy viewpoint) their decisions about Air3.
yes, that will be interesting to see ...
I would be very surprised if we don't see a next generation iPad Air
so far, iPad Pro looks mostly like very good option for drawing/painting, everything else about it is a promise that app developers may or may not fullfill in the future. We'll see.
Great points in your post @rickwaugh.
Yes. I'd like the pencil support too, sort of. I honestly don't know how big the pro will be. The vast majority of iPad users are not "power" users. People in this forum are an anomaly.
People in this forum are an anomaly.
No!
We most definitely are. The vast majority of people use their ipads to read mail, browse the web, read a book. We actually use them for something a hell of a lot more complex and creative.