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How does chopping work on the new Imaschine2 app?
I'm thinking about getting the app and the expansions but am hesitant because I don't know what the chopping on it is like. What I mean by this is can it be used to chop samples in a similar fashion as similar apps such as IMPC Pro or Beatmaker 2 Chop Lab? If not how does chopping work in Maschine? Do you only get a five seconds per sample?
Also to those that own the app If it can not chop samples, than why do you think I should get it if I already own Beatmaker 2 and IMPC Pro?
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No to chopping. Good samples though if you can get them into another app, or just a fun sketchpad/ time waster .
Sorry, double post.
Chopping in imaschine is done manually by using the start/end markers.
The sample has to be duplicated, depending on the number of slices needed.
I am just trying to turn off the "step/mute" button that keeps prompting me on IPhone.
Almost unusable unless I can turn this feature off on IPhone. So annoying
Damn, these are two different answers lol but thanks guys. I guess you can chop but it sucks you have to keep copying the pad and editing. Am I correct? I might get it just for the deal on those sounds though.
Oh, well chopping if you mean it that way, I thought you meant being able to automatically assign slices to pads, which you can't do.
Yeah unfortunately. The app is a joke truth be told... The sounds are worth it though.
Yep that is what I meant originally man like how it is on BM2 but chopping can be copying a sample pad by pad and editing the start and ends. That is a form of chopping too. In fact on real maschines some producers do it that way editing each pad with the knobs but it's annoying and I'm not sure why they do it.
Damn! Flat out a joke lol. Why would you say that? I'm just curious. To me it seems decent with the improvements they made but truth be told they are better apps on the market. The first Imaschine, yeah. That one was a joke, but this one seems alright. I mean they even added a keyboard that plays within a scale for musicians who may have trouble with that or want to experiment with it.
There's a lot things wrong with it.
But people seem to be enjoying it, so I shouldn't be complaining.
Reason for producers using the copy paste method is to have better control of the slices/samples.
Apparently that's how old samplers work.
Oh I see, thanks for explaining why man. I had forgot that but your right. I heard some old school producers say that and even ski beatz said that.
On another do you or anyone else know how to add an instrument. I need more than 4 lol.
Also how do I enter 16 level mode to play with pitches of samples and velocity and stuff for samples.
Damn, 4 instruments suck. It really is like a toy..or well let me not say that. Like a sketch pad. As for pitch thanks a lot man and I know where that option for it is but I'm asking about a 16 pad or 16 level mode. Usually in these kinds of apps and in drum machines you can select one of the pads by touching it and than press 16 levels. When you do that you can have the same sound spread out to different velocities, pitches so you can play with it this way. It comes in handy when playing with thing like a bass note.
Also lol Cool Goal Broski. Should be awesome!
Bump!
I have entire shebang.
I think it is an incredible app. Some people don't like NI or IMaschine series. I really don't know why. I guess its the same as the Retronyms haters.
I think it is an awesome improvement with the cue/sections ability.
As far as chopping, I haven't used it except to "edit" down samples. I don't know if it "chops" like a slicer. If not, TRAKTOR is an option.
Personally, if you want an easy and quick "chop slice" fooey app -- Yellowfier Electrified is an easy no-nonsense chopper/ slicer and sequencer app.
If you are into "deep" slice manipulations and reconfigurations then I recommend Egoist by Sugar Bytes.
The ADSlicer app is a cheap option. However, no landscape mode and little control in my opinion. It lacks depth.
Pardon spellings.
@MarkySo
There is no 16 levels mode in imaschine.
So if you use the Traktor "SuperSlicer" to chop samples how do you get them into iMaschine? imaschine does not have audio copy/paste. The goal is to chop the samples and have them sent to the pads.
For example:
Thanks for your suggestions man but I think i'll stick to BM2 for more serious beatmaking since the slicer comes with it. I will look into those other apps though. Thanks!
I see. That sucks and plus you only get 4 instruments. SMH! It's a cool app but changes need to be made.
Comparing iMaschine, which is clearly meant to be a simple mobile sketchpad (to be then fed into Maschine), to "serious beatmaking" apps like BM2 is missing the point.
me thinks NI missed the point when they decided to make a drumsampler app
The people missing the point are those who insist on believing that NI attempted to make a full-featured sampling production app meant to do it all on its own but somehow failed, despite the overwhelming evidence from the get-go that it was only meant to be a simple and quick-to-use sketchpad for one of their flagship "desktop" products: Maschine.
i agree, as long a they tell people it sucks from the beginning then it doesn't really suck, everyone should understand that so there will be no missing the point further.
Iono, it has a lot of potential and leaves a lot more to be desired in form of audiopaste or audioshare, output in audiobus, and maybe even midi. I would be okay with this argument if it weren't a paid app. If they simply implemented audiopaste instead of using the slow arduous itunes file share, most of the features people desire would become mostly irrelevant since a lot of us already have preferred sampler/slicer apps for getting the sounds we'd like to import into iMaschine 2. The lack of any same device sample import in a paid music app these days is pretty appalling. Anyway, iMaschine 2 was pretty fun and has got to be one of the best MPC style apps I've used on iOS. I'd implement it into my active workflow if it had a way to import samples, but alas I had to delete it because I found it mostly unused.
If you develop samplers but you want to make it harder for people who sample to get samples into your sampler, or you try to make it difficult for people who sample to edit samples, or you wanna make it difficult for people who sample to orgnanize samples, or you want to make it difficult for people to copy and paste samples, or you wanna make it difficult for people to play samples via core audio, or you wanna make it difficult for people to mix samples , or you even have the gull to make it difficult for people who sample to delete samples......... well then just go ahead and don't do people who like to sample any favors by creating your sampler app!!!
it's disgusting.
According to the N.I. website IMaschine has been designed to be more than just a "sketch pad":
"iMASCHINE 2 is the fully-featured, fully-portable app for making music anywhere. A major revision of the original, iMASCHINE 2 packs a host of new power features into the same acclaimed, ultra-simple workflow that brings a full production suite to producers on the go."
But at some point during the development process a conscious decision was made to remove or disable basic functions which are a part of IOS such as audio copy/paste and core midi.
It is a bit of a puzzle. I suppose if they put a banner on the top of their product description announcing 'If you already own other sample slicers designed for the iOS purpose you might find this a bit frustrating as it's really designed for use with our hardware, but if you own our hardware or are thinking of buying it this is really great' then folks might be less irritated with it potentially. There is of course a curve between frustration and an apps possibilities and an inability to easily get at the good samples here is directly correlated (for me).
Maybe we need a new thread for those that would like to discuss to pros and cons of iMachine 2?
The iMaschine was originally billed as a "groove sketchpad". While iMaschine 2 is a significant update that does allow you to do more with it, I'm sure NI will stick to how they've always approached it: to make it quick, fun, and inspiring to use, with not too much menu diving, and meant to bring into Maschine for a more serious production.
You can actually sample directly into iMaschine using an audio interface like iRig, aside from directly sampling anything in your device's iTunes library.