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ProQ vs ProQ2 in Auria
I'm on the fence as to whether to upgrade to ProQ2. Thankfully, I'm trying out the ProQ2 demo on the desktop, to see if I will find the new features useful. I know the original ProQ has everything I need for quality EQing, but time will tell if the new features are worth it for my level of expertise.
I had read that Spectrum Grab wasn't working properly yet, but I'll assume it will be fixed eventually. I'm curious how easy it is to set up EQ Match and/or the Side Chain Spectrum Analyzer in Auria Pro. These look like the new features I would be most interested in.
I'm also curious if any of the new features (3 above as well as Auto Gain) eat up any additional CPU compared to original. Now, it's time to try out ProQ2 on desktop. Thanks for any help. Like many members here, it won't take much to push me off the fence onto the "Buy" button.
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@Osidenick I'm afraid I have no answers for you, but as a sometime Pro-Q user who feels surely-I-don't-need-to upgrade I'd value any insight others might share...
Pro Q was/is one of my most important"instruments"and i really thought i would not need V2 because V1 covers (nearly)all my needs but...i could try it during the beta and it took just 1-2 minutes to create the"NEED"feeling.Just for the much better interface alone,i mean have a look at the (fullscreen) screenshot.If you need an EQ that works like the sharpest scalpel,you won't find a better EQ than ProQ2 (desktop included) imo.CPU wise they are en par.The description says V2 should need less CPU but that's not my experience.But it also doesn't take noticeable MORE cpu (which i expected).A little little more,yes but this is something you'll start to notice if you use 10-12...
and if you already own V1 in Auria,the 15 bucks (currently) is an absolutely no brainer imo
Thanks, Crabman. My thinking was that it's only a no brainer if I actually use the new features. I just spent a chunk of time messing around with EQ Matching. I made some reference files of some acoustic guitar sections I like, and then EQ matched them to some rhythm acoustic guitar I had recorded. The whole process is pretty time consuming, so I was leaning towards not really liking it. Plus, listening to the professional recordings of the music I love side by side with my own stuff can sometimes be a little discouraging. At the end of it all, I ended up with an EQ on my guitar that made it sound much more pleasing than before. The EQ Match gives me a curve so complicated, there's no way I would've come up with it on my own.
Soooooooo, I'm off the fence. It has now become a no brainer to me also. If anything, Pro Q 2 is going to offer some great learning opportunities with EQ Match, and the piano roll option at the bottom.
I'm also getting Timeless 2. I never really liked delays much, because they just created too much sonic chaos for me. Once I saw the Fabfilter video showing how to duck the effect, I knew I had to try it. I know there are some ways to create a ducking effect with routing and compressors, but Timeless puts everything right at your fingertips.
Quick question, can you use the Pro Q 2 Full Screen mode in Auria? I'm going to assume no. If you can, then that will be some of the thickest icing ever put on my cake.
Yes you can use ProQ2 full screen - even on an iPad Pro.
Sold.
I couldn't get the match thing to work out in Auria (yet), so I made a Christmas tree, balls and all.
https://forum.audiob.us/uploads/editor/ot/oq9xmkaz1yk9.jpeg
That is attractive for a buyer.
Love the line, very funny, but that Christmas Tree is what I fear might be the sum of my abilities (if that) with the thing...
that was exactly the screenshot i posted for you
I've tried Pro-q2 on a song I'm working on, and went back to using pro-q and a few of the presets within it. I couldn't get the right sound out of 2. Granted, I think I just need to play with it a bit more. There is some awesomeness in 2 that I think could come out once I learn how to use it.
And...........Make Christmas Tree's and stuff........
using presets in an EQUALIZER?That's the last plugin/app where i would use presets as every song is so different to each other
I make presets on Pro-Q (and Pro-Q2 soon) as needed. It's quite helpful on a drum buss or guitar buss, for example, if you're working on an album and want to maintain a consistent drum or guitar sound.
Even if I end up tweaking to taste per song, it tends to make a good starting point.
To be fair, I really do wish I was so good with EQ that I could just listen and make the necessary adjustments from a flat line, but I've still got a long way to go and much to learn ...
Very fair.
Lower CPU, Spectrum Grab and Spectrum Matching caught my eye and a nice pile of my Xmas coins.
Funny thing, true story, had a $30 pile of said coins, and had decided it would be Pro-Q2 and GeoShred for me. However, Auria 2 has a way of not confirming purchase until you go back out of the store and actually see it under the hood ... Not knowing this, I thought maybe it just didn't go through and it would be harmless to try purchasing again, 'cause Rim wouldn't charge me twice, so I went in under Pro-C2 and I think you can see where this is headed ...
No GeoShred for the space cadet ... sigh and I scarcely use Pro-C the 1st as it is. Heck, I would've gone for Volcano if I was after a twofer on FF plugs.
Maybe if you ask very nicely....I mean, if you walk into a bakery and pick up some brown shred instead of some white by mistake......I know, I'm just a soft bugger. Hate to say it, but I do like Volcano plenty....
agreed
Personally I've never heard spectrum matching in any app or device do anything useful even when it works, I find it flawed as a concept myself.
I have Q1 and don't feel the need for any of the new features in Q2 at the moment. If I didn't have either then I'd definitely start with Q2, but if you already have Q1 it's not an essential upgrade IMVHO.
Are there any videos about using the spectrum grab and matching features - not sure how (why?) I would use them. As an Auria newby, I went straight for Q2.
@PhilW yes, you will soon find them on YT.
I know what you are saying. lol.
I should clarify. I use a lot of the same guitar tones in my songs. So, I have presets that I have made, and those are the ones that I am using. And tweak them a bit for each song.
Tend to agree with this point. I use har-bal on the desktop, not for spectrum matching, but because it can analyse and generate a eq curve over the whole duration of the track. I'm not sure if C2 can do this (even though it does lots of great stuff otherwise)
Thanks.
Sometimes, I amaze myself with my lack of reading comprehension. You threw in the word "desktop" somewhere in your post, and it played a Jedi mind trick on me, leading me to believe maybe fullscreen was only on desktop. When I reread, I realize I should've made sense of it.
Concerning EQ Matching, three out of the four times I've tried it, it just gave me something weird sounding and not useful. One of the times it, made my acoustic guitar track sound much better. It is quite time consuming to set up, so probably not worth it if you want to be efficient. I still might invest some time coming up with snippets of reference tracks to put into Audioshare, which I can then use to EQ match. I'm hoping it will function as a decent learning tool, where I disable and enable bands one at a time to see what they do. If anything, it's kind of like a focused random EQ generator. Fiddling around on my own might achieve the same learning, but maybe EQ Matching will speed the learning curve. If you have EQ skills (looks @Tarekith ), then EQ Matching is probably not very useful at all.
I totally agree Q2 is not an essential upgrade, because Pro Q1 is still just as great as it always was and completely capable of all EQing needs. What I do like so far in Q2 is the full screen and bringing in a side chain spectrum analyzer as a reference to look at. Having bought it, I need to have some justifying thoughts
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For the small amount of money, I upgraded. I don't really buy a lot of apps, but I like to keep up to date with the ones I do use.
And I bought GeoShred, and it's about as much fun as you can have on a glass surface.
I couldn't resist either for 15 bucks. Insanely good price.
@eustressor, don't you stress about getting pro c2, there's some good stuff going on. The vocal mode is one I found to be very cool when I tested it.
Now, you know full well that''s where all our nervous-vanity lives the most...