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WOOJI JUICE : Ferrite and Hokusai
Ferrite and Hokusai
Is anyone using either of these?
I have fiddled a bit on IPhone but can't really tell why I would want either? I haven't tried on IPad - yet.
Are they like Audioshare or more an audio clip assembly app?
What is the difference of these two anyway besides the mic on the one? What would they be good for? I did not go "pro" yet on them.
I want to dig this company, but over 50% of their apps are not on Audiobus, so it makes it hard. (not what she said)
I dig Mito, yet never feel like I made the most out of it.
Grain Science is good. Good. But, aw uh...........I don't know.
Nevermind.
Back to the original question and any other thoughts on Wooji Juice apps or tips and tricks?
Comments
I have Hokusai and never use it. Too fiddly for me as far as the UI.
Hokusai: Does things, has things, but largely superseded hereabouts.
Ferrite: Jury out until next podcast etc.
I use Hokusai all the time for pitch shifting audio. It's a high quality audio editor. I think Auria Pro now covers all the bases, but I still use Hokusai for pitch shifting out of habit.
I've tried really hard multiple times to become 'friends' with Hokusai but there is just something about that app that doesn't 'click' with me. I've almost given up hope convincing the developer of TwistedWave to give the iOS version an option to disable 'snap to zero'(it's driving me insane) when making precise selections and the cursor just keeps jumping around to find a sample close to zero and as a result I do most sample trimming/editing in BeatMaker 2 when I need sample accuracy. Even Cubasis has illogic hidden 'snap to grid' behaviour with the grid is turned off and AudioCopy's sample editor has some quirks left that makes it less than stellar for editing audio-files.
Knowing my general 'dislike' for Hokusai i never bothered to get Ferrite
Caustic's new version of its wave editor is good for shorter clips (about 25 seconds which is usually more than I need). It just clicks for me. I like Twisted Wave too. Could use an update.
Hokusai is popular with the journalist crowd for capturing high quality audio.
I put almost every sample through Hokusai before using it. it's great for things like cutting unwanted things out of a sample, editing 2 or more loops and then merging them into 1 and things like that. I found it to be rather fiddly at first but then it clicked with me. Hokusai and Audioshare are a great couple. Wooji Juice is one of the top music app devs in my book.
edit: If you like Grain Science but it is too aw uh... for you, maybe try its puristic predecessor
Sylo (no AB but audiocopy and open in).
https://itunes.apple.com/at/app/sylo-synthesiser/id378074598?mt=8
hokusai is ok for iOS
but nowhere near audio editing on the mac
I don't edit audio on iOS anymore takes much to long
I do these things in seconds on the mac instead of swiping 10 minutes around on iOS
This, except when not.
Brother, I completely agree!! This could and should be a go to daily tool for me similar to Audioshare and Audiobus but it's just too fidly to do the most basic function, precise editing, which is the main reason I bought it.
It's uniquely fiddly but I've yet to find a stand alone audio editor that has similar functions. It's the only thing in my possession for chopping bits out, whilst remaining fairly unintuitive & seemingly missing a lot of its potential.
'Peak' anyone ?
I've tried just about every 'audio-editor' available for iOS and TwistedWave (I'm also using the Desktop version) works pretty darn good for me. It still doesn't have an option to disable 'extend selection to zero' or 'extend selection to start/end' which makes sample-accurate editing tedious (I'm one of the few who have requested this feature for iOS version, but if more people ask for it, it might happen).
Don't know if there is a list of iOS audio/sample editors with pros/cons and comparisons available?
I'm still looking for an easy to work with sample editor that offers sample-accurate trimming/editing of audio-files.
So far the sample-editor in BeatMaker 2 works pretty good for me.(Looking forward to BM3).
Cubasis offers kinda 'strange' way to select the accuracy, with the grid off it defaults to 1/192th note when editing audio so the 'resolution' of the editor changes based on the songs tempo, doh!!! (BIG 'face-palm' here to Steinberg).
As for (Bias)'Peak' used to use that on the Desktop way back when I was running Mac OS 'Classic'
Hopefully we'll see some amazing new apps next year.
Register for the Caustic forum and request the Caustic 3.2 Beta. Try the included wave editor. Really...
www.singlecellsoftware.com
Hopefully Caustic 3.2 will include a switch for 'input monitoring' so it would actually be possible to hear what is being recorded, this option is missing in way too many 'sampling/recording apps' on the iOS.
For now my 'workarounds' are to use Cubasis as a 'tape-recorder' do quick-trimming on the time-line, save the file in media-bin and do fine-trimming in the minisampler if needed and re-save the sample and after that 'open in' to send to AudioShare or just use BeatMaker 2 in the same way, record to audio-track, open recording in the built-in sample-editor for trimming and use General Pasteboard to send the file to AudioShare.
Once the 1/192th note 'grid' for Grid-Off is removed from Cubasis audio-editor I'll be perfectly happy using it to record my sounds & samples. (Looking at the Steinberg-Forums this has been requested already in 2014 by some users but is still not implemented).
As for the next release of Caustic 3.2 I'll wait for the official release to pop up under the updated apps on my iPad.
Any guess when on this?
No. Dev recently posted that he's been suffering a little burn-out and also family/holidays etc. I'd expect within the next month or so but who knows? I've been using the beta with no major issues for a while.
Similar to the above experiences with Hokusai. For simple or time based stuff, Audioshare is usually fine. For digging in, I use Nanostudio's editor. Controls are fluid and it has vertical waveform zoom. Just copy/paste in and out. Wish it were a stand alone app actually. Only real bummer is it takes several taps to get to it.
Not questioning at all, just interested in relative depth: NS editor easier/better IYHO than Twisted Wave?
If DAWs are fair game, I haven't used NS in a while, but MTS editors (audio included) are the best in the DAW realm, gui wise for me (draw a box, tap/hold center, slide it around or apply processing) and feature wise: sample accurate, ripple, transpose, fades, unlimited undo, time stretch/warp (of a type I find the most useful of any on iOS: drag a clips handles to stretch or shrink to the bar/beat you need). I have had Twisted Wave through years of updates, with excellent results, but haven't opened it at all since I learned MTS ins and outs, both to play with tracks for export to other apps, and create samples to drag/drop into MTS Matrix Sampler.
@JohnnyGoodyear I don't own TW but I'm pretty sure the NS editor is considerably less featured than it. It's very basic.
Processing in TW is pretty deep, dynamics processing, distortion, delay, reverb and filter fx, time stretch/pitch shift (Zynaptiq) on and on...stuff I personally don't tend to do outside the DAW.
Anyways, NS...mmm, sweeties. Still feels so homey.
@syrupcore @Littlewoodg thank you Gents. Had a daydream late at night of Gail and Rim joining forces in a benign dictatorship. Wasn't all bad...