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Record clean guitar sound and add effect later
Hi guys, this is the first time I post something here, currently my recording chain in audiobus is Jamup Pro XT -> Garage Band.
Here is my question, I would like to record a clean guitar sound in my iPad and add the guitar effect later just what I did in Guitar Rig. The purpose of adding effect later is I can fine tuning the effect after recording, so that I don't have to record and record the same riff just a little bit change of the effect. Anyone can suggest any apps that can do this trick?
I know that Garage Band itself can do this trick, but I am not so satisfy about the effect that provide in Garage Band.
Thanks
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Are you using Audiobus?
Buy audioshare and audiocopy/paste your clean guitar tracks/loops to Audioshare. You can store them in Audioshare then when you want you can put Audioshare in the input slot and run you guitar through JamUp and record back into Audioshare in the output slot with effects. Then you'll have Clean version and effects version of your track stored in Audioshare ready to be audiocopy/pasted into whatever DAW you wish to use it
@JMSexton - Your method will work, but from a guitarist point of view it is not a great solution usually. If you want a distorted tone or one with modulation (flanger, vibrato, tremolo, etc...) it is hard to play it clean with the proper "feel". Usually it is desirable to play with the effect type being heard at the time you are playing it. In most computer DAWs you hear the amp plug-in as you play, but the DAW records the clean tone before it hits the effects. Another way to accomplish this is to split your signal and record the guitar on two channels; one clean and one with the effects.
The easy, but expensive, solution to the OP's problem would be to use Auria ($50) with the JamUp IAP ($20). In Auria JamUp Pro is an insert fx and he would be able to record clean and change the settings later. Otherwise, he could get a splitter box and split the guitar signal before it reaches the i/o device, but this would require an audio interface that can do two channels.
AmpKit simultaneously records two versions of your audio: a dry and a wet version.
Auria can also record wet and dry simultaneously with audiobus. Jamup or other modeler on one track and clean signal on the second. Input matrix is awesome. Check out the manual.
@MrNezumi - you are right, actually I need to record guitar with "rough" effect then fine tuning after that.....Can you show me some tutorial about the combination of your method (Jamup Pro and Auria)? I already have Jamup Pro XT, if I purchase Auria do I still need to buy the Jamup IAP in Auria?
@SpaceDog - did amp kit able to change the effect for wet version after record it?
You don't need Auria, You can do this in Beatmaker 2 and probably most other DAWs. Just create two audio tracks and select "Input 1” as the input for your dry track and JamUp for the other. Make sure both tracks are armed and turn monitoring on for the JamUp track.
@Matthew - Thanks for your reply, but the point is can I easily switch the guitar effect after recording it? Or I need to record again the whole guitar section when I change the guitar effect?
@Mathew that covers the recording but unlike Auria BM2 can't go in both Input and Output slots at the same time, so he can't rerun the dry recording back through Jam Up and record the results in BM2.
He can do the experimentation by putting BM2 into Input slot and JamUp into the filter slot. Output can be whatever he's got including speakers. Then when tweaked move BM2 back into Output and re-record the performance.
I would just mention also that Amplitube's workflow is already suited to this kind of experimentation by default. It records your dry signal and processes it through effects. You can toggle the effects on and off to hear the wet/dry signal. After recording your initial take you can tweak your rack or the effects or whatever you like. You can also render out a version of it (long press on the effects button I believe) and/or copy/paste another version to tweak further. But...there will be ads. Just fyi. I think Ampkit actually does a similar thing as well, but I don't recall completely. Thought I'd mention it since you seem to be looking for a specific scenario. Amplitube by itself will be much simpler than recording/re-recording into and out of Auria or any other DAW. It was sort of designed to do exactly what you're describing.
Thanks for your guys to take time discussing my problem, I just email and ask Positivegrid, they say they putting this function (as I know it called "re-amping") in task list, and will definitely add that eventually in Jamup Pro, so I think I will wait and see, and during this time I will use the hard way that record and record again, because of budget limitation, I can't afford other apps by now.
the best way is to use AUM.
pretty pathetic statement for a function that ever existed since Audiobus/IAA
Recording in Multitrack DAW with JamUp as an insert one can alter the amp settings any time, it doesn't automatically freeze the track's content.
Unless it's explicitely told to do so, which also applies to Auria afaik.
As mentioned both apps can record dry and fx-sim on different tracks.
Some apps handle it different and render in place, like the processing section of Audioshare's record panel or TwistedWave.
In AUM you could record dry and and fx separately and later use the dry part in a file player for reamping. To mute the dry signak from monitoring just send it to a bus and set that bus as the input for the JamUp (in the IAA fx slot) channel.
Btw the best polish for a JamUp track is a bit of the AD480 reverb with a small size and a high decay value after the amp sim. No other reverb on IOS can do that trick, a totally convincing room sound.
GarageBand’s built-in solution might not work for you, but you can add Audio Unit effects to a track now, so you could use those to add effects afterwards. Tonebridge is an amp sim that works as an AU effect.
you don't want to compare that piece of crap with a first class amp sim...
(and I bet it's adware galore)
AUM would be my solution too. Route the incoming signal to two different buses. Amp one of them so you can play with your sound. Record the other one clean.
You can easily reamp in cubasis as well. Just put jamup in as an insert effect and turn track monitoring on and you’ll hear the processed sound in your monitors/headphones but it will only record the clean signal so you can tweak afterwards to your hearts content. Also cubasis is 100 x more stable than auria and I find in auria if you then go to record a new track and take jam up off of one track and put it on another after bouncing auria has a tantrum and has to be restarted. Generally auria just likes to have a tantrum and be restarted in fact
The OP hasn't been active on this board in over eight months.
Great idea!