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Apple accessories..thanks but no thanks?
Bought a new camera connection kit today to connect my midi keyboard and apogee jam.
I had a cck that I bought on eBay a year ago and it worked perfectly....until I updated to ios9. Now that cable is useless. To the top of the dump I guess.
The cck cable I bought today came to $45 Canadian.
Now if those suckers at Apple think I'm just going to hand over half a hundred for a tiny cable with a smile.....well ha, no way man think again.
I bought another cck from eBay. It works with ios9 and cost me $2.50
I have 30 days to return the $45 cck I bought today(14 days from Apple. I went somewhere else), so when my China cck arrives that's what I'll do, return it with a smile.
Yeah! Hurts don't it Apple.
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For the record, I've had the same Apple CCK on devices for both iOS 8 and iOS 9 and the switchover to iOS 9 did not kill the cable. I'm thinking your non-functional cable was aftermarket, and if so, it wouldn't be on Apple.
It wasn't an Apple made cck no.
The issue I have is with the price Apple is charging. I don't believe this fella in China is selling his $2.50 cables at a loss.
Kinda like when HDMI cables first came out - the "Monster" cables were supposed to be the best and recommended by sales people at all the electronic stores, but they were something like $30-40... or you could get cheaper 'no-name' cables for $8-10 that worked just as fine.
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Trouble with non Apple cheapos is when you start getting problems , how do you troubleshoot?
Seen loads of bug reports on app forums where the user is blaming the app , but turns out
it's not an official CCK ...
Maybe the app is buggy , maybe it's IOS , but to have a legitimate right to start demanding things work to an acceptable standard you have to bring your equipment level up to an acceptable standard that Apple & the devs have been working to , and that is the official CCK .
Cuss n swear & heap plaague of locust curses on their greedy , unfair capitalist monopolistic evil megacorp all you want , but the protest song you write is gonna work a whole lot better on your ipad with the official CCK .
(i am not, nor have i ever been affiliated to apple or any subsidiary & have received no payment for this sharing of my own opinion based on midi troubleshooting experiences.)
Well if I see one of those I'll buy it. I see them for $28 and up but not $10.
Possible you're speaking of the charge cable?
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I got both of my official Apple lightning cck connectors on eBay for $12 apiece. They're around if you look long enough. I bought an unofficial 30 pin to lightning adapter, said it should do audio, doesn't. It does charge, so it's made a leftover 30 pin cable useful, but it seems like the unofficial stuff is hit or miss.
I bought an 'official' apple CCK from ebay a couple of years ago when i got my iPad Mini 2. That was boxed and sealed, only it didn't work, when I bought an official one from the shop, it became apparent that the ebay one was not that official, where the packaging at first looked authentic, once compared to a real one the flaws were easy to see, the printing was lighter, the box wasn't made perfectly square, and the lightning connector itself looked cheaper (rough edges).
The same thing happened to me a couple of years before with an ebay 'official' iRig.
BTW the sellers of these ebay items just refunded me and didn't want me to return their items. Read into that what you will.
For the record, the actual official CCK I bought is still going strong 2 years later despite 4-5 hours use per day.
Definitely a case of buyer beware!
Yes, I believe mine are officially official though, but if not, they're both working perfectly after 2 years of regular use.
You spend a lot of money on your iPad, you then spend loads of money on apps, you may then spend a load of money on a midi keyboard or controller, then you buy a cheap cck, it doesn't really make a lot sense.
I used to use the cheap one until I had random connectivity issues with uca 222. Must have spent £20 on different ones on eBay. Then I bought the Apple one and never had any issues since, I wish I'd gone for the Apple one in the first place.
Even if it works now how do you know it isn't going to pack up when you're on stage or when you're jamming with your friends?
This is one aspect of apple's ecosystem I think is utter bull.
Seriously? Requiring specific cables/adapters?
The rest of the computing world works just fine with interchangeable cables/adapters from a huge array of manufacturers.
I'm not one given to conspiracy theories, but this one smells bad IMO
Like many folk, I bought a cheap one that didn't work, so I had to buy a genuine one - which is priced very highly, in my view...
Many years ago I bought a less expensive (but name brand) MP3 player rather than pay for an Apple product. After fooling around with this piece of carp (including finding out that it wouldn't access all of the songs loaded on it which was supposed to be addressed by a firmware update that never came out) I bought one of the original Ipod shuffles. I still have it and it still works. FWIW
Except that… a person may have spent a lot of money on their iPad, then spent loads of money on apps, then spent a load of money on a midi controller, then as a result of all that, there’s no money left.
This discussion reminds me of Andys carrots over in the Propellor Heads thread.....
With carrots, as long as you treat them right you can get very similar results at the end regardless of where you got them from.
My analogy for this discussion would be more like buying regular sugar instead of icing(frosting) sugar, it's cheaper and it's just sugar right ?, you can grind it yourself into a fine powder just like the real thing, except you can't and your icing is all gritty and horrible so you go back and buy icing sugar anyway, that is if the nasty icing hasn't totally destroyed your lovely cakes !
Did i mention, I don't even like carrots
Or icing for that matter
Apart from the fact that you can turn brown sugar into white but not the other way around unless you use some shirt tricks @AndyPlankton
Apple products ones a shock when your charged, the other when your charging (your device), don't tell me Andy, this is the case of regular Jellied Eels and the catch them fresh, Electric variety.
Yes this is what I was going to post.
I don't get the justification that because someone has just spent good money on the expensive side for something they should be ripped off on the accessories. And It's not my opinion that it's a ripoff to charge $45 for something that can be made for a tenth of that, it just is... a ripoff.
And no I don't like being ripped off.
I'll have to wait and see how this cheap cck I've ordered works though. All I am going on is that the last one I had worked without problems for a year until the iOS update.
Of course my original post was meant as a sort of joke.
Would you put a $10 battery into a BMW? iDevices are a prestige investment. Can't hang? Go buy a $50 Fire tablet. That's just the reality of it. It's a path we all chose to take. If it makes you feel better, just remember that you get your apps for dirt cheap, vs. a desktop version. Turnado is $100 for Mac, and $20 for iOS. Same exact app. You save where you can. But I have no sympathy for someone who gets a lighting cable from a Sunoco, then wonders what the problem is.
What does “a Sunoco” mean? It’s meaningless.
"Meaningless", meaning that you don't understand it?
It's a gas station. They sell cheap iPhone lightning chargers.
This is true, but the jelly does provide some basic insulation
If it costs more to make something that works is it a rip off to charge more for it than for something that might work for a little bit before it packs up?
There is a power inlet within the Lightning connector, if your device is connected to a powered hub via the cck, if there is a short circuit for any reason, like a drink spillage, there is potential for a surge of some sort.
Where cheap devices can provide the wiring they seldom provide the required protection against surges.
I do not know the inner workings of the cck so cannot say for sure that it would provide protection, that would be an interesting question to get the answer to.
If the answer is no it doesn't then I guess the only real risk is that things might not always work as expected as opposed to risking damage to the device.
Yes, buying cheap, can sometimes prove to be a false economy, but not always, in my experience, but the most important questions that come to mind are as to the production of the cables, all varieties, for the people manufacturing them. When the life-cycle of the cable is over, the recycling program for them. So did this cable die or was it killed?
Everything has a meaning when you've stared at it long enough.
I totally agree though @Icepulse especially the part about apps being so affordable.
Curious at what point you would hesitate to pay for an Apple cck?
I'm assuming you consider $45 to be reasonable. Where's the line it becomes unreasonable for you?
It's interesting to see what amounts people are happy paying for things.