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Looking for a solid standalone sampler
I need a sampler that supports multiple samples, at the least setting key ranges for each sample, and preferably allowing multiple samples per key. I know both BM2 and Music Studio support this, but I'd like something without all that overhead just to run a sampler. Any ideas?
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Maybe Vokey? http://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/14398#Comment_14398 ? Never tried it.
ISequence
Isequence is a good candidate but a little bit outdated for some purposes. It would be very nice to see it soon on the bus. I think there isn't many other options at the moment than BM2... Vokey is not an option: too many bugs and an ugly interface, but it could be....the developer seems to be very receptive.
Thumbjam is the daddy you are looking for
Problem solved !
The Thumbjam sampler player is a very well done interface and a joy to use. However, loading the samples is a Royal PITA! First you go to Prefs, import, audio copy. Then sound, create new instrument, import. While you can copy in more than one sample at a time and import more than one sample into the instrument be careful which one goes first. Because when you go to adjust the loop start and end all you can hear is the first sample no matter which one you're working on. Expect to spend a lot of time setting up the Thumbjam sampler. Expect to get frustrated. But it really is the best available on IOS as far as I've found.
Music Studio and Thumbjam only support single samples per key at the moment, IIRC.
Not to mention that there has been a bug in thumbjam's crossfade capability for the last several versions that the developer keeps forgetting to fix. :-(
I'll play around with ThumbJam a bit. Hopefully some devs will notice this big gaping hole / opportunity and give us a killer standalone sampler. Hard to believe with everything out there that nothing fills this need.
Try samplelab,maybe it's that you lookin for
Not sure exactly what you're looking for in it, but what about SampleWiz
No multisamples in Samplewiz either.
"However, loading the samples is a Royal PITA!" / TedBPex
I've personally found loading and mapping samples fast and easy to do in Thumbjam. Atleast if you use the web interface and transfer the samples from your Mac/PC. And if the samples are named correctly (name C1 , F#3 etc) Thumbjam will automatically map out the samples. Haven't checked how it handles loop or cross fading etc, tho.
I've never had a problem with mapping samples in ThumbJam either (although the entire sampling/mapping interface is clunky at best), but the clicking in the loops of homemade samples is intolerable and until the crossfade bug that causes this clicking is fixed, ThumbJam, as an on-board sampler is not a workable solution. Now, as has been mentioned, sampled instruments can be pre-made outside of the iPad, then imported into ThumbJam, and can loop perfectly and sound seamless, but that defeats the purpose of using ThumbJam as an on-board sampler.
I've been looking for a solid, high-quality, single-purpose classic multi-sampler for the iPad for a long time. It doesn't exist. The closest things we have are Beatmaker 2 and ThumbJam--both of which have flaws that prevent them from perfectly fitting the sampler niche. I want a good sampler more than just about anything else on my tablet right now.........except for more storage space. ;-)
@Audiojunkie As I mentioned in the original post, Music Studio also has a solid sampler that supports multiple samples and layers. My problem is I totally push the limits of my iPad 4 as it is without running multiple DAWs just to get a sampler, and I really don't like MS or BM2 for tracking.
@iClifDotMe That's really the key though, isn't it--and I agree completely--we shouldn't have to use two separate DAWs with Audiobus between them to get a good sampling experience. ThumbJam is as close as it gets as a non-DAW-based solution, but it's not complete, it's clunky, and it's broken. What we need just doesn't quite exist yet.
@ICliffDotMe Music Studio supports one sample per key/key range. Nothing in the help suggests it supports velocity layering. What do you mean by the term 'layers' in this instance?
http://b2im.webs.com/beatmaker2.htm
I hear you guys regarding the clunkiness of TJ's instrument editor. It is one of the items at the top of the list for overhaul. Also, velocity layering will be added at the same time. But as you know, updates don't happen nearly as fast as I or anyone likes.
@mandrakonian- very cool... I find BM2's choice of drum sampler or keyboard sampler to be pretty complete as far as sampling needs.... Triggering the keyboard sampler from a drum pad controller works nicely too....
@Sonosaurus- Thank you for listening.
Dubhausdisco my Eidetic memory strikes again , I read it in 2012 in the hunt for the perfect set up for the ipad , I hope it can be of use to you :-)
@PaulB Music Studio does support multiple samples per key / key range. That's what I meant by layering; perhaps there's a better term.
Here's a screenshot: http://iosmusic.org/photos/image-23
SirSampleton anyone !?
@iClifDotMe Interesting. Nothing in the help about that. I originally thought you meant velocity mapped multisamples.
Keep an eye on VoKey. It does multi-layer multi-zone with continuous velocity transfer functions between layers. Plus an arbitrary number of ADSR envelopes and LFOs.Very fine control over performance parameters, he is also working on finer control over waveform editing and handling loop chunks in .wav files. Workflow constructing complex samples needs some work, but I think he has that in mind too. It all takes time and support.
BM2 it seems allows overlapping of velocity ranges for the layers. Not clear how it manages the blend since there is (apparently) no transfer function control. I'll be looking into that some more soon.
@dwarman can you sample from other apps into vokey via Audiobus ?
@dwarman Have you used any of those Vokey features in depth? I've downloaded the free version to take a look, but I can't say I'm enjoying the experience much. To start with, how do you load different samples into different layers?
I'm going to download VoKey and check it out. Thanks @dwarman