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Opinions on the BIAS Amp expansion packs? (Glassy, Crunch, Insane)
These came out awhile ago, and the only substantive commentary I've seen is on the Music App blog. They're not expensive (US$5 each) if you use them, but my iPad is full of things I don't use. Any opinions?
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Of course it depends on what kind of tone you want and what kind of music you play. I have them all. I use glassy the most because I like BIAS's clean tones best. The crunchy is good too. I'm not qualifed to comment on insane, but I like goofing around with it sometimes.
If you click on each amp in the store screen, you can Preview the sound of the amp, although you can't adjust any settings. Any you do purchase go into the "Custom" tab not the standard list of amps - which means coming back to Bias after a while away, I completely forgot I had purchased the Glassy pack ! Will have to plug in again and see how they sound. I don't like the mess that is the "Custom" tab, it includes any amps you've saved as well so you have to be creative with your naming scheme I think.
Agree mostly with @MrNezumi - I might have purchased one of them (either Glassy or Crunch) and they were decent. BIAS has actually been a bit of a disappointment for me, though I run an older device and things might be more stable if I were on a newer one. Some of the clean tones in BIAS are a bit better than those offered by the other apps, though I stand by my comment that 80% of what people are actually hearing (and like) is the excellent room reverb that's baked into the app. A good reverb can certainly do a ton to enhance the depth and complexity of clean tones, and while many of the apps have good reverbs available, BIAS has it turned on for you "out of the box", though lacking any other effects unless you link it with JamUp or purchase BIAS FX or Pedal separately.
Even though a lot of the user-generated amps in Tone Cloud are bad (or too extreme for practical use), I always felt weird paying Positive Grid for just a few more amps when the point of BIAS was supposed to be to design your own and share free with other users.
I can't resist the IAPs. I have them all and have found something useful in all of them except the insane. As @MrNezumi says, the insane pack is fun to play around with.
The tone cloud really is a great thing. @StormJH1 is right about a lot bad tones; however, there are some gems. If you don't own the amp the tone was made on, you can't download it. If you find a few amps in the cloud you like, the number of amps in the IAP is expanded. I can usually twist logic enough to justify anything I do.
I'll say the glassy and crunchy are pretty essential in my workflow these days.
@supanorton I've never looked at the IAPs. What's in the Glassy and which ones do you use regularly?
I have bought both Bias amp and Bias FX. I think I'm going to have trouble using them all up. I might buy the packs at some point, just because I can't help myself. It is annoying that they only show up in custom though.
@lukesleepwalker Glassy comes with a "67 Twin Reverb", a "66 AC30", a "65 Vibroverb", and a 67 Dumble clean. When I want a clean Strat or Tele tone, I go for the Twin first and the AC30 second. I like clean electric to cut through the mix. The Dumble sounds great, but I find it gets lost a little in a mix. Not sure why I have nothing to say about the Vibro.
Here's the closest thing I've found to an actual review: http://www.musicappblog.com/bias-iap-review/. And from http://guitarapps.info/positive-grid-releases-bias-1-5/ a list of the amps you get with each expansion:
Glassy
’65 American Lux
’66 Bass
Vibro Queen
Gret 6156
’66 AC Boost
’76 Jazz
Crunch
British Lead 900
British OR 30
’65 Plexi
Standard 18
Grid Crunch
GA-18
Insane
RB Uber
Thrasher
GH50
Invader
Herbert
Grid Metal
If you compare this with the amp names in a full-stocked Bias FX, you'll notice one duplicate: '66 AC Boost. I see that the price on these packs has dropped from an initial US$10/ea. to $5/ea. With the money I saved by not buying iSpark, I purchased the Glassy and Crunch packs, downloaded the amps from each (you have to do this one at a time, which seems silly), then imported them (one by one again) into Bias FX. While I was doing this, I noticed some other Bias amps that weren't in Bias FX (at least under the same name) and imported those too.
A review from me wouldn't be meaningful, I'm such a neophyte, but I'm willing to bet $10 that I'll find one or two amps in here that sound good with my Les Paul and Strat. So far I quite like the '65 Plexi.
looks like I need the Glassy pack
@lukesleepwalker
After reading the @dokwok2 post above (thank you, sir), I realized the glassy amps I mentioned must be the standard glassy amps that come with the app. I do have the expansion pack, but I never use any of the models in it. I'll have to check them out. As was mentioned above, the IAPs show up in the custom section, and if you download from the cloud and make your own, it gets really crowded in there. Sorry!!!!
No worries! I didn't sit down with the app until tonight and did a little head scratch and then wandered back here. Of the models listed, the 65 Lux is the only one that interests me, because the twin and the vox cover everything I need 95% of the time. I would swap in the dLux for the twin at some points though, if it sounded authentic.
@lukesleepwalker I'll try it out some tomorrow and let you know what I think, for whatever that's worth. Maybe post a link to DropBox with some samples if that helps? What kind of guitar(s) do you use?
I'm a metal guy and all the insane and high gain expansions are top notch, my personal favorite is the engl
The "Custom" section of BIAS really needs some kind of sub-folder structure to make it easier to manage! But looks like it puts any amps you've saved first in the list, followed by the expansion pack and Tonecloud amps sorted alphabetically. I went through the expansion amps and saved them again with the name of the pack as a prefix, at least I can then identify them easily! Oh, and you can't rename an amp, have to save as new & delete the old...
I talked with PG a while ago about folders for the amps. They thought it was a great idea, but haven't done anything to implement it yet. I've got a long row/list of Bias Amps, and it's a pain to scroll through them trying to find one I'm looking for.
@lukesleepwalker
Here are samples of the glassy IAPs. Just strumming a few barre chords on my Telecaster (bridge pup, tone and volume on 10), then some chords with open strings to get a sense of the "glassiness". The sounds are out of the box, pre-loaded by Positive Grid. I did adjust the output on a few to keep the levels close.
Bias AudioBussed to MultiTrack DAW, exported to DropBox.
Here's the order of amps:
65 American Lux
66 Bass
Vibro Queen
Gret 6156
66 AC Boost
76 Jazz
If you'd like me to do the same thing with a Les Paul, I can. My Strat is in the shop getting some fret work, so you'd have to wait a few more days for that. Just let me know.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v798xu0dhdowg2t/(mix)Bias IAP Glassy.wav?dl=0
That's one thing I like about Bias FX, is that you can organize your own folder structure. @High5denied, if you have FX, you could import into FX, and organize them there without any effects on them. Hmm, hmmm, I may just do that.
That is true, the Bias FX app does have a better management system.
Wow, very generous to spend your time doing this. Thanks, really appreciate it.
The Tele is a great reference for me as I play one often. I listened without looking at the order you listed and liked sample #1 the best by far. I'm a sucker for rich lower harmonics in addition to glassy high end. The Lux, unsurprisingly to me, has it in spades.
Thanks again!
Happy to be of assistance. Yes, that Lux really sounds nice. I also like the 66 Bass. Sad that I didn't even know I had them. Time to go through all the amps I've got in the custom section. Take care, man.