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iMidipatchbay with AB, MiMix etc...

mptrinmptrin
in General App Discussion

Hi,
I've owned iMidipatchbay(IMPB) for months now but I have not been able to properly implement it into my live rig and could use some guidance. My three main concerns are:
1.) I know that IMPB is technically midi and not audio, but it does have volume control for each app that you 'activate.' Right now I have my controller faders set to control the levels of my apps via MiMix ports through AB. Will the IMPB volumes override this? How should I set the IMPB volume levels.

2.) I mainly want to use IMPB to perform splits and layers and activate/deactivate pedal, pitch bend and mod wheel, but what about when I don't need splits and layers, do I then need to shut down IMPB or setup a 'passive' preset with no layers and splits?

3.) If I do the above this now means I have to, for each song, change scenes in AB, then switch to IMPB and choose the preset needed (splits, layers, etc.)??

I'm sure there is a more efficient way to use these apps in conjunction with one another but I am a bit lost on how this should look. Ideally, I would like to use one app to control everything such as: bank changes, splits, AB scenes (but I know AB has no midi) etc, so I can switch presets from song to song quickly. What would be a most efficient setup for live performance? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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  • mptrinmptrin

    Sorry to be a pest, I promise I'm only gonna bump this one time. Just hoping that someone has experience with iMidipatchbay so I can implement this app. I'll except any help! Thanks

  • Lacm1993Lacm1993
    edited February 2016

    I use imidipatchbay all the time for live performance but not with MiMix or audiobus state saving so there's not much I could help and can't call my self an expert since my setups are not that complex but:

    When I don't want splits or layers I just set a preset that sends the program change, MSB and LSB, no zones of master and no more than one external so basically I'm just using it to change presets whitin a single app.
    Or you can turn every external off bypassing midipatchbay completely.

    The volume levels (cc7) do overwrite whatever level you have sent from your controller or from another app to the destination app but as long as you don't touch them at all they won't do anything or have any effect on the sound volume (also you can't control them via MIDI) and if you do the moment you send another volume level (cc7) from your controller or app to the destination app it will overwrite the volume levels from imidipatchbay.

    As audiobus won't respond to any kind of MIDI you would have to change scenes on audiobus and then on imidipatchbay there's no way around it. As long as everything is set correctly (both the MIDI and audio routing) there shouldn't be any problem but it's not as fast as it could be.

    @mptrin said:
    Sorry to be a pest, I promise I'm only gonna bump this one time. Just hoping that someone has experience with iMidipatchbay so I can implement this app. I'll except any help! Thanks

  • mptrinmptrin

    Thanks a lot for your reply I appreciate it. The volume option on IMPB almost seems unnecessary for my purposes, since I have my apps routed to MiMix. I will try leaving them stationary as you've suggested.

    @Lacm1993 said:
    When I don't want splits or layers I just set a preset that sends the program change, MSB and LSB, no zones of master and no more than one external so basically I'm just using it to change presets whitin a single app.
    Or you can turn every external off bypassing midipatchbay completely.

    I'll be honest, I don't really understand what MSB and LSB are, could you explain these for me? :/

  • Lacm1993Lacm1993
    edited February 2016

    MSB (most significant byte) and LSB (least significant byte) are used alongside program changes to select presets in software or hardware instruments with a large number of presets to overcome the 128 limit of MIDI values.

    @mptrin said:
    I'll be honest, I don't really understand what MSB and LSB are, could you explain these for me? :/

  • WillWill

    If you're only using mimix for volume and all of your MIDI apps respond to MIDI volume (or can be mapped) you could potentially drop mimix entirely. I know that doesn't answer any of your specific questions but you mentioned wanting to keep it simple.

    For 2) Yes, a passive preset is the way to go.

    For 3), it's sort of the nature of the iOS beast at this point. Depending on your destinations apps, you may be able to do the whole thing via MIDI Program Changes. You can 1) use program changes to change songs in iMIDIPatchbay and then 2) save program changes in each routing and make sure you have 'send on load' ticked. That way when you switch to song C or whatever, it will send program changes to each of the apps you have loaded into an external slot.

  • mptrinmptrin

    Thanks guys! I'll give these ideas a shot.

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