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iElectribe Tuning Guide
For some reason, I spent all day crunching numbers and running iElectribe through a spectrum analyzer so that I could create a tuning guide for it. I love iElectribe, but drum machines that feature a tuning knob and no feedback as to what pitch is playing back are a pet peeve of mine.
I hope that somebody benefits from this guide, at some point -- some crazy mother #$%@er that wants to use iElectribe as a an out-of-tune music box. I think that it'd be pretty novel, and that was my original intention with this, but, after spending all day staring at spreadsheets, I'm pretty done with this, for now, haha.
You can check it out on my blog, here. It's a table that lists the frequency output of every value for iElectribe's pitch knob and compares those pitches to nearby equal temperament pitches. It lists the differences in cents so that you can know how out of tune iElectribe will be for a given value.
Have a nice night, everybody.
-Lavish Deluna
Comments
Did you checked the manuals for hardware Electribe(ER1 is what iElectribe is modeled on)first?
Very cool idea. I like this sort of thing.
I wonder if it applies also to Tokyo within Gadget (which is sort of a stripped back version of iElectribe).
@lieslavish Thanks for putting yourself through that for the benefit of the team!
Nice! My old Electribe ES-1 included a tuning table in the manual so it was fairly easy to create say bass-lines with it and the motion-sequencer also had 'step-editing by numbers' a feature I really miss on my newish Electribe 2 but I really do like the 'simple synthesis' it's capable of(one of the reasons I got it in the first place).
Bring on the 'Electribe Synth/Sampler Gadget' into Gadget
I might check Tokyo to see if the frequency range is similar. I doubt that it is, just because it seems like the sort of thing that would differ between software-emulated "models," but you never know what KORG might have re-used.
When I bought iElectribe about a year ago, I misunderstood what it actually was because there are so many models in the original Electribe series (back then, the Electribe 2 hadn't been released yet, of course). Some sample, some model, and some, like the EM models (in my naivite, I thought that the iElectribe would be more like the EMX, originally), actually feature dedicated synth voices that respond to MIDI notes -- aka, actual groove-boxes.
Still, I've wanted to twist iElectribe, just for the fun of it, to use one or two of its synth voices for melodies. Even if they're out of tune, it'd be cool, but limiting the selectable frequencies to 128 discreet points on an arbitrarily-sized scale -- I don't think that it could be consistently used for melodies, but at least now it should be easier to tune for kicks, toms, and things to sound in-tune. I assume that your ES-1 had a broader palette of tones that it could squeeze out of the samples, hence being able to create real bass-lines? I'll bet that the original Electribe ER-1's pitch knob wasn't limited to 128 points, either, but I could be wrong about that.
Drawing up the iElectribe tuning table reminded me of something that I read about developers working on the original Atari 2600; it was capable of playing tones picked from a broad pitch range, but the points along that range which were playable didn't correlate to tuned notes, which is a major reason that music was so rare on the console and why most of the music that there is sounds kind of out-of-tune. Definitely adds to the charm in that case, though, and just goes to show the way that people will make music, one way or another.
Awesome work, thanks mate!
The old ES-1 was the 'sampler' model of the classic line of Electribes.
When I got the iElectribe I knew it would be almost like a carbon copy of the classic ER-1 but the iElectribe.app lacks the option to edit the automation with numbers making tuning harder.
The tuning (pitch-knob) on the original ER-1 was the same as on ES-1 so it was kinda nice to make bass-lines with the kick-drum.
I've got both the iElectribe apps (iPhone and iPad version) but I wish that Korg would merge them into an universal app. The iPad version has knobs for the 'valve' while the 'valve' has to be controlled over midi on the iPhone since there is no UI for it.
To me iElectribe is still one of the better synth-drum-apps available on the iOS. Just enough tweak ability to get out some useful results. The iPhone version of iElectribe is closer to the real ER-1.
The bass-lines done with iElectribe are sometimes so out-off-tune it's scary
With standard tuning C Maj is the easiest key to play on Piano, E Maj the easiest on Guitar, G Maj is the key that give relatively easy playing on both instruments which is why it is the most common key for popular music, interestingly the only note in your map with 0 variance is G1.
Thanks for the support, guys. Makes me feel better about wasting all day on it, haha. I wasted a lot of time trying to find correlations between the values and writing equations that could find the CC closest to any given frequency (I still have the equations), literally plotting graphs and @#$% to compare their accuracy to the actual recorded values, before I realized that a table is really the only way to accurately communicate the tunings.
Nice, haha. I think that the iPhone version has a really cute interface, but, with that being the only difference that I could see, I haven't bought it. I do have the Gorillaz iElectribe though, which is novel as a huge Gorillaz fan but not all that usable (and I recently heard that the samples aren't even cleared for use).
Yeah, I noticed that! I thought to myself, "Man, it sure is lucky that the one that lines up perfectly is G," but maybe it wasn't a coincidence (cue Illuminati music). Although most of the pitches seem closer to 50% detune than 0%, there are a handful in there that are pretty close.